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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 7:55 PM ET
Marner and Eichel never played in the AHL .
- VANTEL

I know you aren't that dumb either. I had said minors and junior. Marner stayed in junior(CHL) and Nylander played in the minors(AHL). Kadri did both juniors and minors.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 7:55 PM ET
Marner and Eichel never played in the AHL .
- VANTEL


Marner did go back for another year of junior when many thought he had nothing left to prove there though

Eichel is Eichel ...he was good enough already
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 7:58 PM ET
But if they are ready, then what's the point of playing Megna, Chaput and Skille types ahead of them?
- Nuck4U

Because they can play in the minors and dominate there until someone is sold at the Trade deadline. The reason why Detroit had a 25 year playoff run. Always let their plays be fully ready and sign plugs. Great drafting and two awesome centers helped. Plus Lidstrom
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 8:00 PM ET
Ya totally (frank)ing with you but i remember you pumping the tires on Sutter pretty hard. I honestly don't know if there is much of a difference between the two players IMO.
- manvanfan


I still think he is a big asset
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 15 @ 8:01 PM ET
Of course they do ...but the comment was referring to kesler seeing the sinking ship ...if you pay players more than they might get elsewhere it can change a players tune
- Redmile247


Just to clarify. Are you alluding that Kesler would not have asked to be traded if they offered him a better contract?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:02 PM ET
Marner did go back for another year of junior when many thought he had nothing left to prove there though

Eichel is Eichel ...he was good enough already

- Redmile247

Eichel is a much older birthday like Matthews and played his first year of College and destroyed College. 71 points in 40 games.

Boeser's best year his first year was 60 in 42 games.

So Van can expect BB to be a 60 point player.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 8:03 PM ET
Just to clarify. Are you alluding that Kesler would not have asked to be traded if offered him a better contract?
- Nuck4U


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:03 PM ET
I still think he is a big asset
- VANTEL

He needs better wingers or a better centermen.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 8:05 PM ET
Marner did go back for another year of junior when many thought he had nothing left to prove there though

Eichel is Eichel ...he was good enough already

- Redmile247



But OJ is a mistake?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 15 @ 8:13 PM ET
Bonino 1 cup
Sutter 0 cups


- manvanfan


Marty Mcsorley has a few. He's not better than anyone. This doesn't mean poop.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 8:19 PM ET
But OJ is a mistake?
- VANTEL


Nah I don't think sending him back would be ...ideally you would like him to play against stiffer competition as a D man ...but when your options are limited what do you do ...you'd probably like to have him not be in van with a potential tank year next year ...but maybe if you can put him with a Tanev and have him focus more on his personal development and not worry about wins and losses that could be decent
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 8:21 PM ET
Just to clarify. Are you alluding that Kesler would not have asked to be traded if they offered him a better contract?
- Nuck4U


No ...not really ...kesler is a different animal than those two ...I still think he would have wanted out no matter what ...he knew he could still get paid anywhere probably
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 8:22 PM ET
Eichel is a much older birthday like Matthews and played his first year of College and destroyed College. 71 points in 40 games.

Boeser's best year his first year was 60 in 42 games.

So Van can expect BB to be a 60 point player.

- manvanfan


You can ?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
Because they can play in the minors and dominate there until someone is sold at the Trade deadline. The reason why Detroit had a 25 year playoff run. Always let their plays be fully ready and sign plugs. Great drafting and two awesome centers helped. Plus Lidstrom
- manvanfan



Okay they can cause of no waiver risk. But if they are ready. Like we are talking about 20-22yr olds here. What's the issue? Plus do Nucks really have much to sell that's not part of the rebuild?

Are you hoping for a pump and dump of other players? You realize in the cap tight NHL this is a highly limited move. It's almost getting to be like winning a lotto position in finding a trade partner to take your scraps. Most plugs wind up with no takers at TDL.

Also, Detroit didn't sign plugs to keep players in the minors. They had a stable of good vets so had no spots to integrate a rookie. What Canucks were in place to do before 2014 but drafted poorly after integrating Kesler, Bieksa, Burrows and Hansen.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
You can ?
- Redmile247

yes certainly.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 8:38 PM ET
yes certainly.
- manvanfan


Like one day ?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:39 PM ET
Okay they can cause of no waiver risk. But if they are ready. Like we are talking about 20-22yr olds here. What's the issue? Plus do Nucks really have much to sell that's not part of the rebuild?

Are you hoping for a pump and dump of other players? You realize in the cap tight NHL this is a highly limited move. It's almost getting to be like winning a lotto position in finding a trade partner to take your scraps. Most plugs wind up with no takers at TDL.

Also, Detroit didn't sign plugs to keep players in the minors. They had a stable of good vets so had no spots to integrate a rookie. What Canucks were in place to do before 2014 but drafted poorly after integrating Kesler, Bieksa, Burrows and Hansen.

- Nuck4U

I don't know why is Kapanen still in the minors? Why did Nylander go back after being a PPG player? Why would Toronto do that?

I realize that in a cap tight NHL that Toronto was able to have $10 in contracts in the minors.

Drew Stafford, P.A. Pareanteau got 6th round picks.
Jarome Iginla a conditional 4th. Dwight King a 4th.
Viktor Stalberg a 3rd.
Tomas Jurco a 3rd
Ron Hainseys a 2nd
Vern Fiddler a 4th.

Clearly it's hard to find people to take old scraps.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:41 PM ET
Like one day ?
- Redmile247

someday
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 8:42 PM ET
someday
- manvanfan



Over the rainbow
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 15 @ 8:44 PM ET
someday
- manvanfan


Ok yeah I can agree with that
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:46 PM ET
Over the rainbow
- VANTEL

That's poop's too old for me (even though I still know).

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY is all I know.


SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!




AND


I think I have found a comparable for Cal Foote. CODY CECI!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 15 @ 8:46 PM ET
Over the rainbow
- VANTEL

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 8:55 PM ET
Does anyone know or remember from World juniors or u18s or from a website whether or not MARTIN NECAS plays strictly center or does he play the wing too?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 15 @ 9:04 PM ET
Does anyone know or remember from World juniors or u18s or from a website whether or not MARTIN NECAS plays strictly center or does he play the wing too?
- manvanfan


I seem to remember him playing RW as well but not sure.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 9:13 PM ET
I seem to remember him playing RW as well but not sure.
- belcherbd

I wonder if he becomes the next David Pastrnak
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