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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
I'm not super happy about the term. They only keep complaining about it because they don't have enough on JB to complain about. Complaining is what people do nowadays
- manvanfan

It does look awful now but Loui is coming off his worst/ unluckiest season yet. Who knows, he may turn into a tradeable asset one day
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
Yes ppl complain these days but its too rampant & unproductive.
Reactionary loses out to being proactive everyday.
Anyone can complain from day 1 when they r born but why go there & be defeatists?
If the majority had all the answers on all things who would need Governments or bosses or owners? The majority rarely knows whats best IMO.

- Nighthawk

I disliked the TG hiring. I was even sour about it. I'm over it now. Took me about 3 days and I gave up being sour.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
Then they sucked and were forced to speed up the development or make trades and sign players to allow the kids time to develop. Not 6 years for LE but still.
- manvanfan


I agree but an empty cupboard from cup runs was costly. It takes time & patience & we r going down that road & we will suffer yet still but it is getting better.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
It does look awful now but Loui is coming off his worst/ unluckiest season yet. Who knows, he may turn into a tradeable asset one day
- CanuckDon

Quite possibly. A bit of puck luck at the start of the year and who knows how his season would have went. Mackinnon and Duchene had some of their worst years doesn't mean they are washed up. Why trading Tanev this year without a replacement is not a good idea. Even some of the best young players aren't any good without decent D getting the puck to them.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
Who hammer and Vrbata. Well only Dallas wanted hammer and they choose someone else. Vrbata handcuffed him with a NTC.

You don't just sell everyone at every deadline because you suck.

- manvanfan

Everyone, why limit it, the only people who were untouchable were the Sedins due to rock solid NMC's and an unwillingness to move. Certainly you can't trade "everyone", no one's advocated that. You can however make some moves.

It all goes back to what their vision was and whether or not they were allowed to rebuild by ownership.

Really it's water under the bridge, they got it right this year and that's what's most important.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 8:54 PM ET
The rebuild began day 1 but just not what most ppl envisioned. Roster turnover has been immense. Trades have occurred. Saddled with NMC's/NTC's has been an ongoing work in progress. Those who dreamt that JB could wipe the slate totally clean & go 100% rebuild r in denial.
- Nighthawk

Again, I don't believe that at all, you don't rebuild and do what he did, you re-tool. Not the same thing.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
Everyone, why limit it, the only people who were untouchable were the Sedins due to rock solid NMC's and an unwillingness to move. Certainly you can't trade "everyone", no one's advocated that. You can however make some moves.

It all goes back to what their vision was and whether or not they were allowed to rebuild by ownership.

Really it's water under the bridge, they got it right this year and that's what's most important.

- LeftCoaster

It may have looked like a 2 steps forward 1 step backwards at times. In the end they are much further forward then they were 2 years ago.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 13 @ 8:57 PM ET
In my line of work, I have too make sure your line of work comes to fruition. So no you would be incorrect again..
- Makita


Sorry Makita, but the double negative means that he's right and you're wrong.....

Not being a grammer cop and suggesting you comma that poop to make it correct, instead I'm commending you on being a big enough man to admit that you're wrong....
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 8:58 PM ET
It may have looked like a 2 steps forward 1 step backwards at times. In the end they are much further forward then they were 2 years ago.
- manvanfan

It looks really promising, but I don't think it's a 100% certainty. They got some proving to do in that regard.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 13 @ 9:00 PM ET
I'm definitely slightly right of center, a fiscal Conservative, if you will. People on the right believe that the best outcome for society is achieved when individual rights and civil liberties are paramount and the role, and especially the power, of the government is minimized.

On the left ideologies center around the rights of individuals vs. the power of the government. Left-wing beliefs are liberal in that they believe society is best served with an expanded role for the government.

I do not believe in the expanded role of government!!!

"Scabs" as you call it, is an antiquated term from past years unionized environment, I believe the need for unions is long gone. They were a blessing in the past for workers, but not needed anymore imo.

Alberta allows British Columbians to come in and take high paying jobs, why shouldn't BC? Our borders are free. You can move freely throughout our country to achieve your wealth.

- LeftCoaster


I agree mostly with your statements excepting the fact SCABS is not an antiquated term when it is reality. Yes i am in a union but i do recognize its faults as well. Now that said yes workers can move freely as they should be but in my trade I cannot have it both ways like many SCABS choose to do. Ppl r either unionists or non-unionists not both ways. If i choose to work in Alberta in the Oilsands i must pull a travel card & only can apply for jobs that members don't take. If the job call is not filled then contractors may then hire anyone they like. That is fine. Here in BC what scabs & non-unions employers do is play by their own rules & avoid or neglect many safety rules that WorkSafeBC makes me do. If i break the rules i can be found liable & drug n alcohol tested &/or fired immediately. Scabs/non-union employers do not report incidents & therefore avoid liabilities illegally. When they r caught they get the boot but its hard to police.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
It looks really promising, but I don't think it's a 100% certainty. They got some proving to do in that regard.
- LeftCoaster

If they could have got Draisitil and Mcjesus or Marner and Matthews. Van needs players close to their quality to become a top contender. This being a weaker draft. It may take 2 years of sucking and another year of trying to suck to get those 2 quality players.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
Liberals - Corrupt
NDP - Crazy idea peoples
Green - Hippies

Didn't vote

- pker2theend

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
Nobody is "anti" rebuild. The roster has already been rebuilt except for 4 players.

Van needs 2 first line forwards. Replacing the production of the younger Sedin's.

- manvanfan

Alright, but what would you like to see happen during the next 2-3 years?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
It may have looked like a 2 steps forward 1 step backwards at times. In the end they are much further forward then they were 2 years ago.
- manvanfan


It'd be kinda hard not to...low bar that pretty much any GM who interviewed for the job could've done.

My dog could be hired as an assistant coach for the Avs next year, if they improve it means that my dog is a pretty good coach


Clearing low bars means nothing in pro sports.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 13 @ 9:12 PM ET
Nobody is "anti" rebuild. The roster has already been rebuilt except for 4 players.

Van needs 2 first line forwards. Replacing the production of the younger Sedin's.

- manvanfan

Dear god!!!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 13 @ 9:13 PM ET
@Leftcoaster

My left leanings go only as far as Education & Health care & Seniors.
Class sizes r too large & eduction is under funded & cut backs have hurt.
Health Care has suffered greatly due to National/Provincial governments.
As for Seniors i believe they need more freedoms & less expenses in as many ways as reasonably possible.

After those 3 issues r vastly improved i too am more slightly right of centre.
I vote NDP generally mostly to counter & keep right wingers more accountable.
Realistically i do not believe the NDP should rule but i do like minority governing when the need is there. Lastly i am dead against any American style politics. Polarized 2 party elections r unhealthy mud slinging events most often.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:13 PM ET
Dear god!!!!
- Marwood

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 9:14 PM ET
I agree mostly with your statements excepting the fact SCABS is not an antiquated term when it is reality. Yes i am in a union but i do recognize its faults as well. Now that said yes workers can move freely as they should be but in my trade I cannot have it both ways like many SCABS choose to do. Ppl r either unionists or non-unionists not both ways. If i choose to work in Alberta in the Oilsands i must pull a travel card & only can apply for jobs that members don't take. If the job call is not filled then contractors may then hire anyone they like. That is fine. Here in BC what scabs & non-unions employers do is play by their own rules & avoid or neglect many safety rules that WorkSafeBC makes me do. If i break the rules i can be found liable & drug n alcohol tested &/or fired immediately. Scabs/non-union employers do not report incidents & therefore avoid liabilities illegally. When they r caught they get the boot but its hard to police.
- Nighthawk

My professional life has been much different than yours, I'm not going to sit here and tell you what's right and wrong, our experiences have been night and day different. That works both ways.

Left wing beliefs are usually progressive in nature, they look to the future, aim to support those who cannot support themselves, are idealist and believe in equality. People who are left wing believe in taxation to redistribute opportunity and wealth, things like a national health service, and job seeker’s allowance are fundamentally left wing ideas. They believe in equality over the freedom to fail.

They believe that we should tax rich people more to support people less well off, and they believe we should regulate big businesses so they serve people’s interests. They believe that a good welfare system means people are healthier, more able to work, and will put more back into the economy. They also typically believe country-wide tax-funded action on climate change is necessary.

Right wing beliefs value tradition, they are about equity, survival of the fittest, and they believe in economic freedom. They typically believe that business shouldn’t be regulated, and that we should all look after ourselves. Right wing people tend believe they shouldn’t have to pay for someone else’s education or health service. They believe in freedom to succeed over equality.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 13 @ 9:17 PM ET
It'd be kinda hard not to...low bar that pretty much any GM who interviewed for the job could've done.

My dog could be hired as an assistant coach for the Avs next year, if they improve it means that my dog is a pretty good coach


Clearing low bars means nothing in pro sports.

- Nucker101

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 13 @ 9:18 PM ET
He's jumped off too many cliffs. He's starting to slack.
- manvanfan


LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 9:20 PM ET
If they could have got Draisitil and Mcjesus or Marner and Matthews. Van needs players close to their quality to become a top contender. This being a weaker draft. It may take 2 years of sucking and another year of trying to suck to get those 2 quality players.
- manvanfan

Coulda - shoulda - woulda.....what's important is they move forward with the notion they need to build through the draft, acquire more picks, be better at asset management. This is my hope and wish.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:25 PM ET

- manvanfan





Go Canucks Go!!!
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:26 PM ET
Coulda - shoulda - woulda.....what's important is they move forward with the notion they need to build through the draft, acquire more picks, be better at asset management. This is my hope and wish.
- LeftCoaster



Still waiting for an alternative plan to a proper rebuild(preferably with details, not generalizations)....no one has posted one yet.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 13 @ 9:28 PM ET

- LeftCoaster


How I imagine 90% of the posters here...
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