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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 12 @ 4:26 PM ET
I think he was talking about the city as a whole

I want the Pens to sign Oshie in the offseason if we can get TJ Brodie or Hamiton from Calgary in case we trade Murray to them.

- Barnaby36


I'm aware. I'd put up with Buffalo for any foreseeable future for a couple million dollars.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 12 @ 4:27 PM ET
Nice write up on Botterill for us Sabres fans. Based on what your column and what others are saying, it seems like Pegula finally made a good move with regards to his sports franchises. It sure would be great for Pittsburgh and Buffalo to have a good rivalry but for that to happen, the Sabres need to become a good team - on a consistent basis.

Also, to all of you Pens fans, good luck against the Sens. Hope you beat them.

- SabreWest

If the Sabres get good in the next 2-3 seasons we will see the original Winter Classic rematch and it'll be one hell of a showdown.

I used to like the Sabres as like a 3rd team to watch and cheer for when the Pens and Wild weren't playing. Then they got rid of Vanek and I was salty. Then they hired Dan Bylsma and I was out right away. haha
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
If the Sabres get good in the next 2-3 seasons we will see the original Winter Classic rematch and it'll be one hell of a showdown.

I used to like the Sabres as like a 3rd team to watch and cheer for when the Pens and Wild weren't playing. Then they got rid of Vanek and I was salty. Then they hired Dan Bylsma and I was out right away. haha

- Zac_O


They need to fix that defense. Honestly.. Buffalo could be a good fit for Shattenkirk (if he's chasing money and not a cup.) Who knows how they are going to get rid of Bogosian lol I can't believe he makes 5.1 million a season. Holy (frank). But if they could figure out a way to lure Shattenkirk there and find someone to be his Dumolin.. and push Risto to the 2nd pairing... I think you could see Risto being more effective and not bleeding shot attempts like he is right now.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 12 @ 5:20 PM ET
They need to fix that defense. Honestly.. Buffalo could be a good fit for Shattenkirk (if he's chasing money and not a cup.) Who knows how they are going to get rid of Bogosian lol I can't believe he makes 5.1 million a season. Holy (frank). But if they could figure out a way to lure Shattenkirk there and find someone to be his Dumolin.. and push Risto to the 2nd pairing... I think you could see Risto being more effective and not bleeding shot attempts like he is right now.
- j.boyd919

They have a few questionable contracts IMO. How does anyone think for a second that Moulson is worth 5 mil? Maybe if you're trying to reach the cap floor and you give it to him for 1 year.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

May 12 @ 5:21 PM ET
I think he was talking about the city as a whole

- Barnaby36


I appreciate your reading comprehension skills.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
Bogosian contract makes sense the same way Duncan Keith's contract makes sense. Admittedly not a perfect comparison as Keith had proven more but got huge term. Bogosian early in his NHL career was .5 ppg and Calder trophy type as rookie. They locked him up early with term. Risky bet but if he continued to improve was a true number 1d type. With bogosian you were better he would continue to improve. With Keith you were better he could stay good for a reasonable amount of the 13 year term. Keith easily could have taken a career declining injury or started partying after getting his entire career earnings guaranteed. Then we would ask why is Keith so over paid and forever instead of considering it a great value. Taking term risks can turn into a genius move or idiocy.

PK subban is the reason you lock a guy up instead of bridging him. Subban got a bridge and when he continued to improve got $9 million a year.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 12 @ 9:44 PM ET
As a franchise, obviously the loss of Botterill is tough when you have an old but gold fossil like Rutherford. However, it always is a sign of a well-run franchise when other teams are trying to pry away your management and coaching to emulate your team's culture. I remember this happening with the patriots a lot, though the coaching really hasn't worked out that well (billy O'Brien aside)

Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

May 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
Pens just got themselves a new trading partner.
- Rinosaur

This is where I think makes the most sense for Fleury.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
We need to get Kessel going.

Pens in 6!

- Barnaby36



Kessel was starting to piss me off on the pp in games 5,6, he was bury himsel in the corner literally taking away any angle he had to shoot or pass through the seem. Gm 7 was better he started to get to the top of the circle n shoot. Lets get em tomorrow night phil
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 12 @ 10:01 PM ET
I'm happy for the man. It's a promotion and big raise for him and his family. I was only ever in Buffalo once and I was young so not gong to comment on living location but from a professional standpoint he's kinda hit the big time. He's now the GM of a major sports franchise.

He obviously was a piece in a massive machine that is the Pens success (and failures) the past 10 years but just how big of piece is impossible to gauge. My general feeling is his departure won't effect the Penguins franchise all that much moving forward.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 12 @ 10:11 PM ET
Bogosian contract makes sense the same way Duncan Keith's contract makes sense. Admittedly not a perfect comparison as Keith had proven more but got huge term. Bogosian early in his NHL career was .5 ppg and Calder trophy type as rookie. They locked him up early with term. Risky bet but if he continued to improve was a true number 1d type. With bogosian you were better he would continue to improve. With Keith you were better he could stay good for a reasonable amount of the 13 year term. Keith easily could have taken a career declining injury or started partying after getting his entire career earnings guaranteed. Then we would ask why is Keith so over paid and forever instead of considering it a great value. Taking term risks can turn into a genius move or idiocy.

PK subban is the reason you lock a guy up instead of bridging him. Subban got a bridge and when he continued to improve got $9 million a year.

- sditulli


lol no.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 12 @ 10:40 PM ET
We need to get Kessel going.

Pens in 6!

- Barnaby36


I thought him and Malkin started looking close to dominant together in game 7 the other night. Phil had a handful of grade A chances in that game. One time the stick broke on him as well.
Le-Morte-dJames
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.01.2014

May 12 @ 11:00 PM ET
This might've been posted already, but if you haven't read the article it's definitely worth the time.

Great insight from Guentz, definitely rooting for him even more now after this. The backstory of him and Kessel is amazing

https://www.theplayerstri...el-kesselmania-runs-wild/
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 12 @ 11:52 PM ET
lol no.
- j.boyd919

He had the injury bug early. Should have been a red flag. But he was showing .5 ppg early in his career with a physical frame he was willing to use. I think they overpaid some in light of the injury risks but giving him the deal early had some upside.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 13 @ 12:45 AM ET
This might've been posted already, but if you haven't read the article it's definitely worth the time.

Great insight from Guentz, definitely rooting for him even more now after this. The backstory of him and Kessel is amazing

https://www.theplayerstri...el-kesselmania-runs-wild/

- Le-Morte-dJames


Great read, thanks!
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

May 13 @ 12:47 AM ET
I thought him and Malkin started looking close to dominant together in game 7 the other night. Phil had a handful of grade A chances in that game. One time the stick broke on him as well.
- MattStrat


It's a beauty to watch the dude snap the puck, leaning his fat, plump body almost completely on his stick
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

May 13 @ 12:51 AM ET
This might've been posted already, but if you haven't read the article it's definitely worth the time.

Great insight from Guentz, definitely rooting for him even more now after this. The backstory of him and Kessel is amazing

https://www.theplayerstri...el-kesselmania-runs-wild/

- Le-Morte-dJames


Awesome stuff. I love this team so much because they love each other so much, and they always remember it's supposed to be fun. Honestly, it's what the Capitals are missing - love and fun.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

May 13 @ 1:44 AM ET

Best article I have read on hockey in my life and I am 61. Funny as f*ck by Jake. OMG.

https://www.theplayerstri...el-kesselmania-runs-wild/
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 13 @ 2:30 AM ET
This might've been posted already, but if you haven't read the article it's definitely worth the time.

Great insight from Guentz, definitely rooting for him even more now after this. The backstory of him and Kessel is amazing

https://www.theplayerstri...el-kesselmania-runs-wild/

- Le-Morte-dJames


That's awesome! I followed up and read the Mike Lange article.....really good too! I didn't realize Jagr gave him the "He smoked him like a bad cigar" catch phrase. That's tremendous. Jags worked on that for 3 months.
Le-Morte-dJames
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.01.2014

May 13 @ 2:59 AM ET
That's awesome! I followed up and read the Mike Lange article.....really good too! I didn't realize Jagr gave him the "He smoked him like a bad cigar" catch phrase. That's tremendous. Jags worked on that for 3 months.
- madmike71


Yeah they both are good. I just love how Guentzy was Kessel's stick boy when he was at Minnesota. Now to be playing on the same team as him in the pros, just crazy
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 13 @ 5:54 AM ET
This is where I think makes the most sense for Fleury.
- Tojo.

martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 13 @ 8:08 AM ET
sometime I feel like people doesn't even read my post I posted the article ages before anyone else and no one had seen it but instead reacted to other peoples posts
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 13 @ 8:13 AM ET
Bogosian contract makes sense the same way Duncan Keith's contract makes sense. Admittedly not a perfect comparison as Keith had proven more but got huge term. Bogosian early in his NHL career was .5 ppg and Calder trophy type as rookie. They locked him up early with term. Risky bet but if he continued to improve was a true number 1d type. With bogosian you were better he would continue to improve. With Keith you were better he could stay good for a reasonable amount of the 13 year term. Keith easily could have taken a career declining injury or started partying after getting his entire career earnings guaranteed. Then we would ask why is Keith so over paid and forever instead of considering it a great value. Taking term risks can turn into a genius move or idiocy.

PK subban is the reason you lock a guy up instead of bridging him. Subban got a bridge and when he continued to improve got $9 million a year.

- sditulli

They traded for him while he was mediocre on the Jets after signing his absurd contract. The Sabres did not lock him up early, they made a really bad trade for him.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 13 @ 8:15 AM ET
sometime I feel like people doesn't even read my post I posted the article ages before anyone else and no one had seen it but instead reacted to other peoples posts
- martox

I just kind of run off the assumption all your posts are about how bad Crosby is at this point.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 13 @ 8:38 AM ET
I just kind of run off the assumption all your posts are about how bad Crosby is at this point.
- Victoro311

well just ctrl + F crosby on my posts and ignore the ones with the name in it
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