Chico Resch
- jmatchett383

lol some folks here weren't even alive to see that

lol some folks here weren't even alive to see that
- Scoob

I'd be one of them.

I'd be one of them.
- jmatchett383

yikes

yikes
- Scoob

34 at the end of the month. Born of the day that Sixers won. My dad only attended a small party, probably assuming he'd be seeing a few more Flyers/Phillies/Sixers championships in the next few years.

Andrew MacDonald for Antti Niemi, nothing retained.

Edit: Wouldja?

Andrew MacDonald for Antti Niemi, nothing retained.

Edit: Wouldja?
- jmatchett383

Yes, but only to avoid the MacDonald discussions here. lol

34 at the end of the month. Born of the day that Sixers won. My dad only attended a small party, probably assuming he'd be seeing a few more Flyers/Phillies/Sixers championships in the next few years.
- jmatchett383

I don't follow the NBA but I do remember that championship as it was just a few weeks before my hs graduation.

Andrew MacDonald for Antti Niemi, nothing retained.

Edit: Wouldja?
- jmatchett383

I don't want any part of any of the three goalies in Dallas, especially Bishop. I think he is now just a pricier Nuevy. Great when on and healthy, breaks entirely too much. The other 2 just suck. Besides, Dallas needs to dump salary not swap it for a bad d man.

Yes, but only to avoid the MacDonald discussions here. lol
- Scoob

Well maybe for this reason.

Mikey Miss going full poopty music buzz today.

My God does the man have awful taste.
- hereticpride

Give examples please so I can hate on him even more

I don't follow the NBA but I do remember that championship as it was just a few weeks before my hs graduation.
- Scoob

Yes, as Moses said " fo, fo, fo" turned out to be "fo,fi,fo...lol

I don't want any part of any of the three goalies in Dallas, especially Bishop. I think he is now just a pricier Nuevy. Great when on and healthy, breaks entirely too much. The other 2 just suck. Besides, Dallas needs to dump salary not swap it for a bad d man.
- jaws1955

Kari Let'em'in plays horrible in Philly.

Yes, as Moses said " fo, fo, fo" turned out to be "fo,fi,fo...lol

- jaws1955

fee fi fo fi fo fi fo

Kari Let'em'in plays horrible in Philly.
- dragonoffrost

Really, just Philly or as in, we don't want him he sucks badly here?

fee fi fo fi fo fi fo
- dragonoffrost

What about fum? You forgot fum.

I think a lot depends on expectations. If the expectation is that Bishop will be a top 5-10 goalie for most of the deal, then I think the Stars will be disappointed. If they're hoping for a baseline of average goaltending, then I expect them to be fine with it.

They're relatively young, but their window to win is now, so I get the move. Would I have made it? No. I don't value goaltending enough to take a risk like that. I just don't think the deal is as bad as people make it out to be. Seems like everyone assumes Bishop will be bad or something. How much is league average goaltending worth?

The Flyers aren't contending so they have the luxury of waiting things out and seeing what presents itself in FA. The Stars want to win now, so they don't have that luxury.
- PhillySportsGuy

So you are saying they should be content with average? Is that what you are saying?Why I just don't agree. You do not pay a man $30 million to be average. Either be above average or be below average but not average.

How long has it been since the Flyers had a goalie with Cup winning experience?

lol
- Scoob

Emery. Before that Bryz. In terms of a Cup winner as a starter, it's been awhile.

Emery. Before that Bryz. In terms of a Cup winner as a starter, it's been awhile.
- bmeltzer

Boy do I have a deal for you!!!!

Boy do I have a deal for you!!!!
- BINGO!

So you are saying they should be content with average? Is that what you are saying?Why I just don't agree. You do not pay a man $30 million to be average. Either be above average or be below average but not average.
- Mononoke

Boy do I have a deal for you!!!!
- BINGO!

lol

- PhillySportsGuy

I chuckled

I don't want any part of any of the three goalies in Dallas, especially Bishop. I think he is now just a pricier Nuevy. Great when on and healthy, breaks entirely too much. The other 2 just suck. Besides, Dallas needs to dump salary not swap it for a bad d man.
- jaws1955

Lehtonen does not "suck". His first several years in Dallas, he was one of the NHL's more underrated goalies; in fact, the team MVP on those "Pesky Stars" teams with lots of vinegar but modest talent that annually missed the playoffs by a whisker due to lakc of sufficient scoring. The last few seasons have been inconsistent, though.

Say what you will about Niemi, but he has a Cup ring from Chicago and was a Vezina finalist in San Jose.

Not saying that either guy is the right one for the Flyers. But the Stars real issue the last couple years is that they played a spottier brand of team D than just about any team in the NHL -- yes, including the Flyers. The goalies were inconsistent and sometimes dragged down the team but it was more commonly the guys in front allowing 2-3 unstoppable goals before there'd be a stoppable one that leaked through.

Hitch will absolutely bring much better D structure to Dallas, and Bishop will benefit from it and probably get too much credit for it. If things had been left untouched otherwise, he'd have been set up to get too much blame for it when he fared similarly or only modestly better than the 1A/1B tandem the last couple years.

Boy do I have a deal for you!!!!
- BINGO!

I'd take Ward over some of the other names being tossed around, such as Halak.

Andrew MacDonald for Antti Niemi, nothing retained.

Edit: Wouldja?
- jmatchett383

Absolutely but Dallas wouldn't.