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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 9:27 AM ET
The salary though, Step gets 6.5 million in real dollars every year, Staals salary falls further and further behind his cap hit each year from here until the end.
- smellmyfinger


I think they eventually want to compete too though and not just look at fake ways to get to the cap floor. They have to see what the Oilers have done this year and think they can get in the mix too a bit.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 10 @ 9:27 AM ET
Step would be a great fit in the desert. They have tons of cap space and would take over for Doan when he likely retires next year.
Get it done, Gorton!

- Fenrir


For who?

In any deal, whether its the direct deal in which Stepan is involved, or in another deal, the Rangers need to get back a center.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
He beat out an icing last night!!! Might have been the only time I laughed all night.
- Tonybere

That was shocking. Like he saved it up for one burst of speed.
I do like Step, good defensive forward with a good hockey IQ. What do we get in return? His market value isn't very high right now.
Maybe he likes Vegas.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
For who?

In any deal, whether its the direct deal in which Stepan is involved, or in another deal, the Rangers need to get back a center.

- Pete V

Maybe they can add a piece and get Anthony DeAngelo
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 10 @ 9:29 AM ET
Still bothers the hell out of me that the Devils have any rights to Kovalchuk. If you were able to void that ridiculous contract, shouldn't have the rights to profit from him when he comes back. The Devils not only got a get out of jail free card, but now they get to profit from that BS cap circumventing contract as well.
- Pete V



The reason is the ridiculous salary years never happened, so there is no cap to recapture. If he played like 3 more years the Devils would be (frank)ed with dead space. Can't help but think when Kovy said hey I think I might go back to Russia that Lou said that's a great idea.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 10 @ 9:30 AM ET
Stepan is a good darn hockey player, that had a poop year. The clubs that trade guys after bad periods when there value is down are usually the ones that aren't successful. But, there are some circumstances with Stepan and the teams current makeup that might make sense to deal him if they get the right value back. They do need a center in return, however, because remember Hayes didn't light it up either. The organization is too thin at that position.
- Pete V


I agree and moving on from Stepan is a hard decision. Players are going to have up and down seasons. There are not too many players that maintain perfect consistent play every year. Stepan should be pretty damn motivated to move past this year and tear it up next year.

Bob McKenzie tweeted out that a team would first need to agree to what the devil's want, then see what kovalchuk wants and have the devil's sign him to that deal and term and then trade him. A lot of moving parts and what would the asking price of the devil's be?
- Upstate_isles


Sounds tedious and like it could bleed over into the beginning of the season.

I think he knows that he's probably going to have to sign a 1-year prove it deal. Friedman was on the radio yesterday talking Kovy and had a good point. He's 34, if he signs a multi-year deal it will carry him over 35 and become a 35+ contract with potential major cap recapture penalties if he retires before the contract is up.

My guess is he signs a 1 year deal somewhere to re-establish himself in the league and then takes it from there. Something in the ~$5M range isn't unreasonable, considering what Shipachyov got from LV.

- eichiefs9


This makes a lot of sense since no team is going to want to give him a long term deal with the history he has. Will be interesting to see this play out.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 9:30 AM ET
Yeah but it certainly doesn't seem like he's going that route.
- eichiefs9

No it doesn't also no 2017 pick can be used on him so it's either a 2018 pick or current players and prospects. Hard to gauge his value to teams. He would still be great on pp and I think could really help out over a 3 or 4 year deal
Rangers99
New York Rangers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
This playoff exit falls on Hayes, Miller and Kreider. They all did nothing. Just a couple goals from each of them and they are in the 3rd round. If Kreider played the whole series like he did the 3rd period, they win that series. Blame should fall on them 3
MacT27
New York Rangers
Location: Subway Record: 4-0, NY
Joined: 04.03.2015

May 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
This playoff exit falls on Hayes, Miller and Kreider. They all did nothing. Just a couple goals from each of them and they are in the 3rd round. If Kreider played the whole series like he did the 3rd period, they win that series. Blame should fall on them 3
- Rangers99


I also blame AV for is inability to coach these players to play a full 60 mins. The Defense for sucking for the most part. If it wasn't for our bottom 6 we would of lost to MTL
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

May 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
For who?

In any deal, whether its the direct deal in which Stepan is involved, or in another deal, the Rangers need to get back a center.

- Pete V

No idea. Not Domi for sure, maybe Jooris?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
This playoff exit falls on Hayes, Miller and Kreider. They all did nothing. Just a couple goals from each of them and they are in the 3rd round. If Kreider played the whole series like he did the 3rd period, they win that series. Blame should fall on them 3
- Rangers99


At least Kreider has been a money playoff player in the past. He's just frustrating as hell. He is the player he is at this point, the type of guy you'll always wonder why he can't be a big time star in the league with his skill set.

Hayes and Miller's playoff numbers, however, are beginning to become troubling.
drobber
Ottawa Senators
Location: kingston, ON
Joined: 09.03.2010

May 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
Dear New York Rangers

It's not you. It is us. We just feel your going nowhere and it is time for us to move on.


P.S - You got dumped in 6 dates.

Love
Ottawa Senators

- spazzbot




From a sens fan,

(frank) off Spazz.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 10 @ 9:38 AM ET
I also blame AV for is inability to coach these players to play a full 60 mins. The Defense for sucking for the most part. If it wasn't for our bottom 6 we would of lost to MTL
- MacT27

If the rangers played the 1st like the 2nd and 3rd they win, they don't seem to play a complete 60 minutes and that's coming from a guy who's team never plays a complete 60. Av shouldn't have had Holden out in o.t. in game 2 and should be canned.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 10 @ 9:40 AM ET
No idea. Not Domi for sure, maybe Jooris?
- Fenrir



Stepan would bring back a valuable asset, Staal would have to be viewed as a straight salary dump.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 10 @ 9:43 AM ET
Stepan would bring back a valuable asset, Staal would have to be viewed as a straight salary dump.
- smellmyfinger


No doubt.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 10 @ 9:44 AM ET
Sean Avery calling out Kreider

Sean Averyā€¸ Verified account @imseanavery 8h8 hours ago

And WHY doesn't #20 go head to head with their captain and punish him for 6 games EVERY SINGLE SHIFT??

- jimbro83

Who?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 9:44 AM ET
Who?
- B2B76


surprised, he was tweeting like crazy last night
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

May 10 @ 9:45 AM ET
Stepan is a very smart player that makes for a lack of speed, shot and all around production, Rangers need to revamp the D the same way they did the forwards, they need cap space and Step's contract would be ideal to trade, Sather really (frank)ed us with the clauses, guy should have handed over the reigns years earlier
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 10 @ 9:47 AM ET
Stepan is a very smart player that makes for a lack of speed, shot and all around production, Rangers need to revamp the D the same way they did the forwards, they need cap space and Step's contract would be ideal to trade, Sather really (frank)ed us with the clauses, guy should have handed over the reigns years earlier
- KreiderBomb


just think, they could be stuck with Callahan's NMC too
sgoodwin
Ottawa Senators
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.20.2013

May 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
Now it's over, who has the heart to rub it in? I feel bad for your side and it's a shame anyone has to lose. It's a bitter pill after following your team all season through thick and thin only to have it abruptly stop prematurely. Well, it was a great series and very entertaining and I don't need to say you have a great squad with great heart and fans. If it's any consolation, we'll be out in four no matter who we play according to the bookies and the entire sports media. Cya next year.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

May 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
Taking this surprisingly well, maybe it was already accepting after blowing the 2 OT games that we were not gonna win this series. Still stings but not as brutal as 2012 & 2014 for sure. 2015 was a tougher series defeat too.

Far too many passengers, Stepan, Miller, Hayes are at the top of the list. CK didn't show up truly till the 3rd period last night. the guy is a total enigma still, 5 full years into his career. I think it might be time to part ways withy him & see what we can get back. How about a Stepan/Kreider package? For who or what IDK. But time is running out on Hank ever wininng a Cup here. He will be 36 by next playoffs.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

May 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
just think, they could be stuck with Callahan's NMC too
- jimbro83



What's the thoughts on Hank? He had another very good year, but 8.5 per for another 4 years.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

May 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
just think, they could be stuck with Callahan's NMC too
- jimbro83


That would have been a disaster.

Staal's no trade becomes limited after next year, so I think we might have to deal with one more year of him.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

May 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
I'd like to see ovie win too but most entertaining player in the game? Mcdavid takes that, even Crosby is above and I despise him. Ovie used to be dynamic now he shoots on the power play or dumps it I'm. He doesn't really make the players around him better, he needs help
- Upstate_isles


No doubt McDavid is the most talented and fun to watch right now. I was referring to Ovie in terms of entertainment on and off the ice, they way he celebrates every goal, how he embraces the Olympics and the All Star Game and most importantly the fans, and the TONS of charity work he does
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 10 @ 9:49 AM ET
Now it's over, who has the heart to rub it in? I feel bad for your side and it's a shame anyone has to lose. It's a bitter pill after following your team all season through thick and thin only to have it abruptly stop prematurely. Well, it was a great series and very entertaining and I don't need to say you have a great squad with great heart and fans. If it's any consolation, we'll be out in four no matter who we play according to the bookies and the entire sports media. Cya next year.
- sgoodwin


Well I'm rooting for ya.
Always root for the underdogs when my team is out. Unless the underdogs were the Devils,Isles,Flyers.
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