Trouba and the 1st for Schneider and a 2nd?

Probably uneven. Just spitballing

Trouba and the 1st for Schneider and a 2nd?

Probably uneven. Just spitballing
- willschulme

Reverse those picks, then add more on your end. Trouba is 23, and a top 15 dman. Schneider is 31, and coming off his worst season (I still believe he's top 10).

I look at the roster, the depth at multiple positions, the size etc and I wonder how come the jets are still awful......


Hellybuck isn't that much of a hinderance is he...?

Reverse those picks, then add more on your end. Trouba is 23, and a top 15 dman. Schneider is 31, and coming off his worst season (I still believe he's top 10).
- Rexypoo

Love trouba - gonna be great.
But Schneider is an elite goalie

The devils will not take a beating In any trade involving the only reason they're competitive most nights

I look at the roster, the depth at multiple positions, the size etc and I wonder how come the jets are still awful......


Hellybuck isn't that much of a hinderance is he...?
- HB77

It's not Hellebuyck. He's dead Center, league average at 5 on 5. It's our horrific coaching and the continued employment of guys like Chairot and Tanev.

Love trouba - gonna be great.
But Schneider is an elite goalie

The devils will not take a beating In any trade involving the only reason they're competitive most nights
- HB77

And Trouba is an elite Dman, who's 8-9 years younger.

Draft a guy like Brannstrom. He's been compared to Karlsson a lot.
Hope Vegas does us a favour and takes Myers.
Sign Raanta and a youngish puck mover for the bottom pairing.
Cut Chairot, Melchiori, Thorburn, Stuart, and Tanev. They're all useless.
Fire all the coaches.
PLAY THE KIDS
Pile up wins.
- Rexypoo

Only Rexypoo believes in keeping a forth line fringe winger in Andrew Copp over a bonafide top four defenseman in Myers. If Myers is taken, then we clearly lost the Evander Kane trade.

Only Rexypoo believes in keeping a forth line fringe winger in Andrew Copp over a bonafide top four defenseman in Myers. If Myers is taken, then we clearly lost the Evander Kane trade.
- TheUltimateJet

Things we know about Tyler Myers:
His cap hit is far higher than his level of play.
He's not top 4 on this team.
He's offensively solid at times, but who knows when he'll go cold again.
He's defensively terrible.
His latest injury nearly retired him.
He's in his prime years, of which he only has 2-3 left, and not a true top 4 on 20+ teams.
His value to other teams is far higher than it is to us, mostly because of his size and the fact he'll only ever be 3rd pairing for us.

Things we know about Copp:
He can play any forward position effectively
He's 22
He's an excellent penalty killer
Until about half way through this season, he was better than Lowry at everything.

Things we know about Tyler Myers:
His cap hit is far higher than his level of play.
He's not top 4 on this team.
He's offensively solid at times, but who knows when he'll go cold again.
He's defensively terrible.
His latest injury nearly retired him.
He's in his prime years, of which he only has 2-3 left, and not a true top 4 on 20+ teams.
His value to other teams is far higher than it is to us, mostly because of his size and the fact he'll only ever be 3rd pairing for us.

Things we know about Copp:
He can play any forward position effectively
He's 22
He's an excellent penalty killer
Until about half way through this season, he was better than Lowry at everything.
- Rexypoo

So you are willing to give away Myers for free? How much do you know about hip surgeries?

Things we know about Tyler Myers:
His cap hit is far higher than his level of play. - but what the jets pay him is half of his cap hit, making him extremely affordable to them
He's not top 4 on this team. - I'd say it's a toss up between him, buff and enstrom
He's offensively solid at times, but who knows when he'll go cold again.
He's defensively terrible. - as is most of our D
His latest injury nearly retired him.
He's in his prime years, of which he only has 2-3 left, and not a true top 4 on 20+ teams.
His value to other teams is far higher than it is to us, mostly because of his size and the fact he'll only ever be 3rd pairing for us.

Things we know about Copp:
He can play any forward position effectively - on the fourth line, sure. He will only be a top 9 player in the ahl
He's 22
He's an excellent penalty killer - I don't understand how people can say him and armia are excellent penalty killers yet our pk sucks? Makes me laugh
Until about half way through this season, he was better than Lowry at everything- but ended up not being better than Lowry at anything, hits, face offs, or points
- Rexypoo[/quote
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[quote=Rexypoo]Things we know about Tyler Myers:
His cap hit is far higher than his level of play. - but what the jets pay him is half of his cap hit, making him extremely affordable to them
He's not top 4 on this team. - I'd say it's a toss up between him, buff and enstrom
He's offensively solid at times, but who knows when he'll go cold again.
He's defensively terrible. - as is most of our D
His latest injury nearly retired him.
He's in his prime years, of which he only has 2-3 left, and not a true top 4 on 20+ teams.
His value to other teams is far higher than it is to us, mostly because of his size and the fact he'll only ever be 3rd pairing for us.

Things we know about Copp:
He can play any forward position effectively - on the fourth line, sure. He will only be a top 9 player in the ahl
He's 22
He's an excellent penalty killer - I don't understand how people can say him and armia are excellent penalty killers yet our pk sucks? Makes me laugh
Until about half way through this season, he was better than Lowry at everything- but ended up not being better than Loewry at anything, hits, face offs, or points
- Ross77[/quote
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Well summarized. Copp is a dime a dozen NHLer.

So you are willing to give away Myers for free? How much do you know about hip surgeries?
- TheUltimateJet

Yes. Because in a year we might have to pay someone to take him. He holds no value for us.

[quote=Rexypoo]Things we know about Tyler Myers:
His cap hit is far higher than his level of play. - but what the jets pay him is half of his cap hit, making him extremely affordable to them
He's not top 4 on this team. - I'd say it's a toss up between him, buff and enstrom
He's offensively solid at times, but who knows when he'll go cold again.
He's defensively terrible. - as is most of our D
His latest injury nearly retired him.
He's in his prime years, of which he only has 2-3 left, and not a true top 4 on 20+ teams.
His value to other teams is far higher than it is to us, mostly because of his size and the fact he'll only ever be 3rd pairing for us.

Things we know about Copp:
He can play any forward position effectively - on the fourth line, sure. He will only be a top 9 player in the ahl
He's 22
He's an excellent penalty killer - I don't understand how people can say him and armia are excellent penalty killers yet our pk sucks? Makes me laugh
Until about half way through this season, he was better than Lowry at everything- but ended up not being better than Lowry at anything, hits, face offs, or points
- Ross77[/quote
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Myers is nowhere near Enstrom's level defensively and nowhere near Byfuglien offensively. He also can't play his off side.
Copp, along with Armia, are excellent penalty killers because we allow fewer goals with them out there than we do without. You're blaming them for our continued lack of a special teams coach.
Lowry started the season as the worst forward on the roster. He was brutal. At some point, it clicked for him. He's now an elite 4C.

Keep Myers ...trade Buff !

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I'm not a huge Myers fan but we absolutely need him, we lack D depth. I haven't seen Buff or Enstrom play their off side so not sure the point your making plus it's a stretch to say Buff and Enstrom are miles ahead defensively. Our PK sucks and to blame it all on the coaches and not the ones on the ice is unrealistic

Yes. Because in a year we might have to pay someone to take him. He holds no value for us.
- Rexypoo

If u look at is actually salary, it's very modest. His cap hit is high because his contract was front loaded. He is a good deal for us right now.

Well summarized. Copp is a dime a dozen NHLer.
- TheUltimateJet

None of Buff, Trouba, or Myers seem to be able to play the left side, so inevitably one of the three will have to be moved.

I'm not a huge Myers fan but we absolutely need him, we lack D depth. I haven't seen Buff or Enstrom play their off side so not sure the point your making plus it's a stretch to say Buff and Enstrom are miles ahead defensively. Our PK sucks and to blame it all on the coaches and not the ones on the ice is unrealistic
- Ross77

Our rankings on the blueline for offence:
Byfuglien
Trouba
Morrissey
Myers
Enstrom
Postma

Our rankings on the blueline for defence:
Trouba
Enstrom
Morrissey
Postma
Byfuglien
Myers

How do we absolutely NEED Myers? He's our #5, and we have the worst defensive system in the league.

Our rankings on the blueline for offence:
Byfuglien
Trouba
Morrissey
Myers
Enstrom
Postma

Our rankings on the blueline for defence:
Trouba
Enstrom
Morrissey
Postma
Byfuglien
Myers

How do we absolutely NEED Myers? He's our #5, and we have the worst defensive system in the league.
- Rexypoo

because these are "your" rankings and not "our" rankings

because these are "your" rankings and not "our" rankings
- Ross77

Those rankings are literally where they rank offensively and defensively. I just couldn't be bothered trying to post the images on this site.
Myers is literally the worst player in the 5-6 million range aside from Orpik and Seabrook. He's really bad in a top 4 role.

Those rankings are literally where they rank offensively and defensively. I just couldn't be bothered trying to post the images on this site.
Myers is literally the worst player in the 5-6 million range aside from Orpik and Seabrook. He's really bad in a top 4 role.
- Rexypoo

he is only being paid 6.5 over the next two years by the Jets ( 3.5 this year and 3 the year after )He can play in our bottom pair and is light years ahead of postma, chiarot and Stuart.

he is only being paid 6.5 over the next two years by the Jets ( 3.5 this year and 3 the year after )He can play in our bottom pair and is light years ahead of postma, chiarot and Stuart.
- Ross77

The last two? Absolutely. Chairot is the best of himself, Melchiori, Strait, and Stuart. But they're all still AHL quality. Postma has performed better with fewer minutes along side the worst partners in the NHL.

The last two? Absolutely. Chairot is the best of himself, Melchiori, Strait, and Stuart. But they're all still AHL quality. Postma has performed better with fewer minutes along side the worst partners in the NHL.
- Rexypoo

. Here we go again with your love of postma. Remember, I said postma wouldn't play more than 30 games in the NHL once let go by the Jets. Hopefully we will find out who's right this year. I really hope I'm wrong and Postma ends up on another team in our division, should help guarantee we will be better than that team lol

. Here we go again with your love of postma. Remember, I said postma wouldn't play more than 30 games in the NHL once let go by the Jets. Hopefully we will find out who's right this year. I really hope I'm wrong and Postma ends up on another team in our division, should help guarantee we will be better than that team lol
- Ross77

It's amazing how much you hate him. This is a perfect example of both where and why the eye test fails.