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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
Chayka will take them
- AdamFrench



lmao.. Only if it's Dave Bolland's contract going to the Kings
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
nobody does a proactive rebuild. gm's wait until the window is completely shut before rebuilding. i don't expect LA to rebuild now.

a healthy quick and LA is probably in the playoffs next year, despite the bad contracts.

- Tumbleweed

LA, wont rebuild this off season, it would be next depending on results if they were to.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
Chayka will take them
- AdamFrench


nah, way to rich for the yotes

i think an insurance paid lupul deal is the one they'd happily take for a fee.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
nah, way to rich for the yotes

i think an insurance paid lupul deal is the one they'd happily take for a fee.

- Tumbleweed


I don't know, Brown's cap hit is 5.875, but his actual salary will be 5.5M. So cap hit is higher than what he will be paid
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
nah, way to rich for the yotes

i think an insurance paid lupul deal is the one they'd happily take for a fee.

- Tumbleweed


We don't need to get rid of Lupul contract. He's going back to Robidas Island next year with Horton.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
I don't know, Brown's cap hit is 5.875, but his actual salary will be 5.5M. So cap hit is higher than what he will be paid
- PatC80


yotes have been taking on insurance paid deals like savard, bolland, pronger or zero money deals - datsyuk. brown's deal is too expensive.

we will be nailed with a ~$5M bonus penalty this year. moving lupul's insurance paid deal to the yotes with a 2nd could prevent that from happening next year.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
(frank) this Doughty is old idiocy.

He is the perfect age, which is why LA will never trade him.

- AdamFrench


Top three Reasons

1) Kopitar $10 Million 7 more years ( scored 12 goals, is 29 years old)
2) Brown $5.875 Million 5 more years (scored 14 goals is 32 years old)
3)Gaborik $4.875 Million 4 more years (scored 10 goals is 35 years old)

In addition, despite winning a couple of cups Lombardi was fired for above contracts, they are paying $1.5 for 3 more yrs for buying out Richards. Quick is 31, Carter is 32, team is old, can't score and in need of overhaul not a patch job. With Kopitar contract, will be a long overhaul. Doughty will be traded, probably not to Leafs - someone that can take on salary and make them younger fast. Doughty is their only really valuable chip and waiting a year closer to FA will not help his value.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 9 @ 12:12 PM ET
I wonder if Nashville could be a potential trading partner this year.

Josi
Ekholm
Ellis
Subban all have to be protected, and if they are, they'd lose a decent forward in the expansion draft.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 9 @ 12:13 PM ET
Top three Reasons

1) Kopitar $10 Million 7 more years ( scored 12 goals, is 29 years old)
2) Brown $5.875 Million 5 more years (scored 14 goals is 32 years old)
3)Gaborik $4.875 Million 4 more years (scored 10 goals is 35 years old)

In addition, despite winning a couple of cups Lombardi was fired for above contracts, they are paying $1.5 for 3 more yrs for buying out Richards. Quick is 31, Carter is 32, team is old, can't score and in need of overhaul not a patch job. With Kopitar contract, will be a long overhaul. Doughty will be traded, probably not to Leafs - someone that can take on salary and make them younger fast. Doughty is their only really valuable chip and waiting a year closer to FA will not help his value.

- winsix


To think that Kopitar's season wasn't an aberration is foolish. That guy will bounce back for sure.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
Top three Reasons

1) Kopitar $10 Million 7 more years ( scored 12 goals, is 29 years old)
2) Brown $5.875 Million 5 more years (scored 14 goals is 32 years old)
3)Gaborik $4.875 Million 4 more years (scored 10 goals is 35 years old)

In addition, despite winning a couple of cups Lombardi was fired for above contracts, they are paying $1.5 for 3 more yrs for buying out Richards. Quick is 31, Carter is 32, team is old, can't score and in need of overhaul not a patch job. With Kopitar contract, will be a long overhaul. Doughty will be traded, probably not to Leafs - someone that can take on salary and make them younger fast. Doughty is their only really valuable chip and waiting a year closer to FA will not help his value.

- winsix

Last year Kopidor was a shoe in to win the Selke and this year he shoots at 8% and still comes in second in his teams scoring, so he's the problem? Come on. This is like the Blackhawks fans who blame Toews for all of their "problems."
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
To think that Kopitar's season wasn't an aberration is foolish. That guy will bounce back for sure.
- TheMussel


You may be correct, but at age 30 and beyond, are you expecting the production escalator to be moving up, or down?


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
I wonder if Nashville could be a potential trading partner this year.

Josi
Ekholm
Ellis
Subban all have to be protected, and if they are, they'd lose a decent forward in the expansion draft.

- TheMussel

I doubt Nashville makes either of the above available.
They can replace a forward easy enough.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
Top three Reasons

1) Kopitar $10 Million 7 more years ( scored 12 goals, is 29 years old)
2) Brown $5.875 Million 5 more years (scored 14 goals is 32 years old)
3)Gaborik $4.875 Million 4 more years (scored 10 goals is 35 years old)

In addition, despite winning a couple of cups Lombardi was fired for above contracts, they are paying $1.5 for 3 more yrs for buying out Richards. Quick is 31, Carter is 32, team is old, can't score and in need of overhaul not a patch job. With Kopitar contract, will be a long overhaul. Doughty will be traded, probably not to Leafs - someone that can take on salary and make them younger fast. Doughty is their only really valuable chip and waiting a year closer to FA will not help his value.

- winsix


more likely Kings will make it to last 4 in West next year.
they have a very good team still.
Doughty won't be traded.

LA were saved by NHL though with decision on Richards' contract (could have been way worse) and in particular with Voynov contract non-cap hit.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:24 PM ET
Last year Kopitar was a shoe in to win the Selke and this year he shoots at 8% and still comes in second in his teams scoring, so he's the problem? Come on. This is like the Blackhawks fans who blame Toews for all of their "problems."
- AdamFrench



Fixed

How many Forwards are in the NHL right now that are younger, have more upside are better and make less money? 20? I think more.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
I doubt Nashville makes either of the above available.
They can replace a forward easy enough.

- Fakepartofme


Agree
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 9 @ 12:26 PM ET
Fixed

How many Forwards are in the NHL right now that are younger, have more upside are better and make less money? 20? I think more.

- winsix


meet all of those 4 requirements?
maybe 3-5.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

May 9 @ 12:27 PM ET
the fact we have a summer "strategy"
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 9 @ 12:30 PM ET
Fixed

How many Forwards are in the NHL right now that are younger, have more upside are better and make less money? 20? I think more.

- winsix

Sorry you missed the joke. I should have shown context.

Many, but Kopidor is still going to be their top-two-way-shutdown centre for three years before they blow it up.

winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:43 PM ET
Sorry you missed the joke. I should have shown context.

Many, but Kopidor is still going to be their top-two-way-shutdown centre for Seven years before they blow it up.


- AdamFrench



Fixed : #horribleuntradeablecontract
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:44 PM ET
meet all of those 4 requirements?
maybe 3-5.

- MaximusAurelius


Here are 10: and I will only include forwards, no goalies or D-men:

McDavid, Draisaitl, Tarasenko, Eichel, Laine, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Schiefle and Kucherov.

Not a complete list by any stretch.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 9 @ 12:50 PM ET
Fixed : #horribleuntradeablecontract
- winsix

Last year, there were about 5 players that LA would contemplate trading Kopitar for, this year, he now has the worst contract of all time and should be sold like the garbage he is before he's sent to the glue factory?
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

May 9 @ 12:50 PM ET
Sorry you missed the joke. I should have shown context.

Many, but Kopidor is still going to be their top-two-way-shutdown centre for three years before they blow it up.


- AdamFrench



I've never seen that before. Brad Doty...wtf
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
Last year, there were about 5 players that LA would contemplate trading Kopitar for, this year, he now has the worst contract of all time and should be sold like the garbage he is before he's sent to the glue factory?
- AdamFrench


I agree with you that he will be much better, but, how many long term contracts for big dollars for very good (but not exceptional) players work out in sports? Think about it. More GM's trip over their Richards on overpaying than not. While Kopitar should not be written off, he is making superstar money but it is unlikely that he will ever produce like a superstar moving forward.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 9 @ 12:59 PM ET
I agree with you that he will be much better, but, how many long term contracts for big dollars for very good (but not exceptional) players work out in sports? Think about it. More GM's trip over their Richards on overpaying than not. While Kopitar should not be written off, he is making superstar money but it is unlikely that he will ever produce like a superstar moving forward.
- winsix


they probably won't be a cup contender again with the current core, but they could be a playoff team.

making the playoffs brings in the extra revenue, so a lot of times it's worth to just to make a round or 2.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
I agree with you that he will be much better, but, how many long term contracts for big dollars for very good (but not exceptional) players work out in sports? Think about it. More GM's trip over their Richards on overpaying than not. While Kopitar should not be written off, he is making superstar money but it is unlikely that he will ever produce like a superstar moving forward.
- winsix


This seems a bit premature considering that he has one lackluster season production wise.

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