So what makes this kid effective? He's not big, he's not fast then what is he?
- Bjm84

He knows where to go and when to be there to put himself in position to score and he has a very quick and accurate shot. Plus - he's not slow, but just not elite.

Grrr

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/...d-swedish-center-ejdsell/
- walleyeb1

Not a big loss. He's likely bounce for the AHL anyway.

here's what I'm hoping for -

Trade Panarin to NYI for Hamonic (expand deal to try to get Strome too)
- Theres Tavares LW

Trade Anisimov, Hartman, Forsling to CO for Duchene

Sign Joe Thornton on a 1-2yr deal for no more than 4mil per to "chase a cup"
-Kane's proven he can get life out of a retread/theyve played together in Swiss league

here's what I'm hoping for -

Trade Panarin to NYI for Hamonic (expand deal to try to get Strome too)
- Theres Tavares LW

Trade Anisimov, Hartman, Forsling to CO for Duchene

Sign Joe Thornton on a 1-2yr deal for no more than 4mil per to "chase a cup"
-Kane's proven he can get life out of a retread/theyve played together in Swiss league
- PatShart

I've seen that deal mentioned elsewhere (Twitter I believe) and it could be a pretty good one. I'd prefer Trouba but Hamonic is signed for just over $3.8 million for 3 more years.

That's just too much for Duchene.

I like your thinking, but I doubt Thornton leaves San Jose.

I've seen that deal mentioned elsewhere (Twitter I believe) and it could be a pretty good one. I'd prefer Trouba but Hamonic is signed for just over $3.8 million for 3 more years.

That's just too much for Duchene.

I like your thinking, but I doubt Thornton leaves San Jose.
- DarthKane

Maybe get a prospect back with Duchene..and I like Anisimov. But including him helps the money

I can see Joe leaving for a cup chance...it kinda sounded like he and Marleau may not be back there/a changing of the guard

here's what I'm hoping for -

Trade Panarin to NYI for Hamonic (expand deal to try to get Strome too)
- Theres Tavares LW

Trade Anisimov, Hartman, Forsling to CO for Duchene

Sign Joe Thornton on a 1-2yr deal for no more than 4mil per to "chase a cup"
-Kane's proven he can get life out of a retread/theyve played together in Swiss league
- PatShart

What "+'s" would be involved to get Strome and Hamonic?

No way NYI does it for just 72

I think the angle /direction should be to go back to giving Kane retreads/lower skill guys - he'll make them better simply by being in his line

But Toews needs 2 top level/All Stars to be effective. Put two of them with Toews and everyone will worship him as "being back, or healthy", but truth is he won his Selkes because he played with the best defensive winger in the game when he was still in his prime (Hossa). In order to get anything out of his 10+mil salary, he needs guys to carry a bit of the load. Kane doesn't

What "+'s" would be involved to get Strome and Hamonic?

No way NYI does it for just 72
- BlazinMike

NYI wouldn't trade Harmonic (who they've had on the block for how long?) for a LW to play with Tavares - (who hasn't had one since being there and will be a FA after next year/they need to sign him)?

I think the angle /direction should be to go back to giving Kane retreads/lower skill guys - he'll make them better simply by being in his line

But Toews needs 2 top level/All Stars to be effective. Put two of them with Toews and everyone will worship him as "being back, or healthy", but truth is he won his Selkes because he played with the best defensive winger in the game when he was still in his prime (Hossa). In order to get anything out of his 10+mil salary, he needs guys to carry a bit of the load. Kane doesn't
- PatShart

Or get some other defensively solid centers (not named Kruger), so that he isn't relied upon to be the shutdown forward.

Its great that he can do that, but a number 1 center shouldn't only do that.

NYI wouldn't trade Harmonic (who they've had on the block for how long?) for a LW to play with Tavares - (who hasn't had one since being there and will be a FA after next year/they need to sign him)?
- PatShart

They might, but I don't think they would trade Hamonic AND Strome for 72.

They might, but I don't think they would trade Hamonic AND Strome for 72.
- BlazinMike

Maybe Panarin and the rights to TVR

Maybe Panarin and the rights to TVR
- PatShart

TvR is under contract next season.

TvR is under contract next season.
- DarthKane

My bad...thought he was a RFA

And I think Strome was on the block for them this year with talks him going to AZ at some point

Maybe Panarin and the rights to TVR
- PatShart

Better off using the rights to LaLonde

I've seen that deal mentioned elsewhere (Twitter I believe) and it could be a pretty good one. I'd prefer Trouba but Hamonic is signed for just over $3.8 million for 3 more years.

That's just too much for Duchene.

I like your thinking, but I doubt Thornton leaves San Jose.
- DarthKane

His name came up over the weekend in one of the telecasts or possibly Sirius (can't remember which) that he is happy in No Calf regardless of the Sharks position. I like the chatter on this page, I am hoping for long term fixes to be addressed if possible - First.

Panarin for Duchene ? Whatever extra pieces make it work for both sides.
- kinigitt

How does that not open another gaping hole on wing? That was my point in the earlier post. Whether he had a good playoffs this year or not, he is a big piece of the offense on the team.

How does that not open another gaping hole on wing? That was my point in the earlier post. Whether he had a good playoffs this year or not, he is a big piece of the offense on the team.
- pdx2ord

His spot on the top of the left circle is where Ellis is getting fat in the playoffs. Not saying they have a replacement, however, you have to ask yourself one question, is 72 going to pull a Lebron/Bosch and go play with his friends when he is a UFA? He and Shipinshov (SP) are UFA the same year. If so, strike at the height of his value.

His spot on the top of the left circle is where Ellis is getting fat in the playoffs. Not saying they have a replacement, however, you have to ask yourself one question, is 72 going to pull a Lebron/Bosch and go play with his friends when he is a UFA? He and Shipinshov (SP) are UFA the same year. If so, strike at the height of his value.
- riozzo

He very well may do that after two years, but I tend to agree with others that our window, with this core, is closing rapidly (if not already closed without the right moves). So, given that, do you keep a known offensive threat with proven great chemistry with both Kane and Hossa OR lose him for someone who may work in this system and with this team?

I'd personally hang onto the pieces that we know are working now if we aren't guaranteed an upgrade or at least a parallel fill + another missing piece.

Fair analysis. Not a fan of Stan, as he mostly lacks the fortitude (perhaps he's handcuffed) in making a tough trade. The Drouin one was sitting out there for him, and he, as usual, didn't do anything. Now the grand wizard of the NMC, unless they want to blame that on Dale too, has painted himself into a corner. Curious as to who fleeces him first and most.

I see you made it back out of your double wide TROLL. Go away man nobody cares about you or anything you have to say. You still haven't won anything until then STFU. Trashville still sucks and I doubt you get any further then the next round. Until then keep dreaming about winning the cup.
- BGKarras

Your honor, Exhibit A. A typical Hock fan that comes to Bridgestone. I know you are upset you get Swept but whatever happens Nashville beat Chicago and St. Louis. Life is sweet

Nashville >>Chicago
Johansen> Toews

Go put your new Cubbies gear on and try forget about hockey awhile

here's what I'm hoping for -

Trade Panarin to NYI for Hamonic (expand deal to try to get Strome too)
- Theres Tavares LW

Trade Anisimov, Hartman, Forsling to CO for Duchene

Sign Joe Thornton on a 1-2yr deal for no more than 4mil per to "chase a cup"
-Kane's proven he can get life out of a retread/theyve played together in Swiss league
- PatShart

Highly unlikely Thornton does a "chase the Cup" type deal with a team that's lost in the first round the last 2 years. And seems like CO is about the last team Anisimov would waive to go to. Doubt you get Strome, but Panarin for Hamonic plus a second or third seems like something the Islanders would go for. Regardless, the numbers don't work unless the cap goes up far more than expected, when you remember the Hawks have 3m-ish in bonus overages from this year counting against next years cap.

Has Hossa actually said if he is coming back next year? With 3 Cups won already, and two first round losses lately; it seems like he has to at least consider the fact he could play at/closer to home for a lot more money than he'll make in the NHL, but only if he does it soon.

How does that not open another gaping hole on wing? That was my point in the earlier post. Whether he had a good playoffs this year or not, he is a big piece of the offense on the team.
- pdx2ord

It does open up a big hole on LW but it gives more center depth. Besides doesn't Duchene play LW too?

edit: NVM shoots left, Center and right wing.

Bit of a parallel move but I think it helps more than it hurts. Sell Panarin high and buy Duchene low.

And no, sorry, didn't catch that post earlier.

NYI wouldn't trade Harmonic (who they've had on the block for how long?) for a LW to play with Tavares - (who hasn't had one since being there and will be a FA after next year/they need to sign him)?
- PatShart

Like to hear from some islander fans but I think I read that Hamonic didn't have a good year. Not sure how Store played

Your honor, Exhibit A. A typical Hock fan that comes to Bridgestone. I know you are upset you get Swept but whatever happens Nashville beat Chicago and St. Louis. Life is sweet

Nashville >>Chicago
Johansen> Toews

Go put your new Cubbies gear on and try forget about hockey awhile
- VopatsRash

3 Chicago cups >>>> 0 Nashville cups.

Highly unlikely Thornton does a "chase the Cup" type deal with a team that's lost in the first round the last 2 years. And seems like CO is about the last team Anisimov would waive to go to. Doubt you get Strome, but Panarin for Hamonic plus a second or third seems like something the Islanders would go for. Regardless, the numbers don't work unless the cap goes up far more than expected, when you remember the Hawks have 3m-ish in bonus overages from this year counting against next years cap.

Has Hossa actually said if he is coming back next year? With 3 Cups won already, and two first round losses lately; it seems like he has to at least consider the fact he could play at/closer to home for a lot more money than he'll make in the NHL, but only if he does it soon.
- Antilles

That thought did cross my mind, but I think he'll be back. Not sure if he could play somewhere else while still under contract with the Blackhawks.