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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 9 @ 12:05 AM ET
I don't want to say.
- thundachunk

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 12:07 AM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 12:14 AM ET
Klim Kostin. Best skater in the draft and a shot to go with it. Only reason he dropped was because of a shoulder injury. I would take him at 5.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 9 @ 12:16 AM ET
I don't want to say.
- thundachunk

ok
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 9 @ 12:18 AM ET
Klim Kostin. Best skater in the draft and a shot to go with it. Only reason he dropped was because of a shoulder injury. I would take him at 5.
- thundachunk

oh my well it's an original choice
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 12:20 AM ET
oh my well it's an original choice
- CanuckDon

Laugh it up. I knew everyone would. I am not backing away now.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 9 @ 12:23 AM ET
Nothing worse than an oiler fan after a win. I hate the Oilers.
- thundachunk



Yeah A toronto fan
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 9 @ 12:26 AM ET
Klim Kostin. Best skater in the draft and a shot to go with it. Only reason he dropped was because of a shoulder injury. I would take him at 5.
- thundachunk


Russian factor too.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 12:28 AM ET
Russian factor too.
- storm88

This I am well aware of and it bothers me but I like his game.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 9 @ 12:34 AM ET
This I am well aware of and it bothers me but I like his game.
- thundachunk


yea. not like we'd get burned by a russian.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 9 @ 12:36 AM ET
Below are all the players that would be fighting for the roster. Plus draft picks left. Also, signed Megna, Biega and DD as fringe and likely to be waived.

RFA: Cram C/L, Boucher L, Chaput C/L, Shore C/R, Pedan D, Gartieg G AHL/ECHL McEneny D, Zalewski C, Skille R UFA and Grenier R UFA

2017 free agent ELC: Molino C/L, MacEwen C/L & Chatfield D (AHL/NHL)
2017 ELC: Goldoblin L (NHL/AHL) and Dahlen C/L (NHL/AHL/ Europe)
2016: free agent ELC: Stecher D (NHL), Suatner D (AHL)

2016 Entry 1 Olli Juolevi D Either NHL or London Knights [OHL]
2016 Entry 3 W. Lockwood L NCAA
2016 Entry 5 Cole Candella D Hamilton Bulldogs [OHL]
2016 Entry 6 Jakob Stukel L Calgary Hitmen [WHL]
2016 Entry 7 Rodrigo Abols C Europe ? Not eligible for AHL
2016 Entry 7 Brett McKenzie C North Bay Battalion [OHL]

2015 Entry 1 Brock Boeser R NHL/AHL
2015 Entry 3 Guillaume Brisebois D AHL
2015 Entry 4 Dmitry Zhukenov C likely going to KHL
2015 Entry 5 Adam Gaudette C NCAA
2015 Entry 6 Lukas Jasek R [Czech League] could go to AHL

2014 Entry 1 Jake Virtanen R NHL/AHL
2014 Entry 2 Thatcher Demko G AHL
2014 Entry 3 Nikita Tryamkin D (KHL 1-3yrs)
2014 Entry 7 Mackenze Stewart D AHL

2013 Entry 1 Bo Horvat C NHL
2013 Entry 3 Cole Cassels C AHL
2013 Entry 4 Jordan Subban D AHL
2013 Entry 5 Anton Cederholm D Europe/AHL

2012 Entry 1 Brendan Guance C/L (RFA- needs waivers possible NHL
2012 Entry 5 Ben Hutton D (NHL)

2011 Entry 4 Joe Labate L (RFA- needs waivers NHL longshot

2009 Entry 2 Anton Rodin L/C (RFA - injured for 1.5yrs no NHL)

Canucks need to fill out 5 Forwards with 1/2 extras. Plus 1D maybe 1 extra.
Thus with needs/position who should Nucks sign plus send to the Comets?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 9 @ 12:41 AM ET
Below are all the players that would be fighting for the roster. Plus draft picks left. Also, signed players Megna, Biega and DD as fringe and likely to be waived.

RFA: Cram C/L, Boucher L, Chaput C/L, Shore C/R, Pedan D, Gartieg G AHL/ECHL McEneny D, Zalewski C, Skille R UFA and Grenier R UFA

2017 free agent ELC: Molino C/L (AHL/NHL), MacEwen C/L(AHL), Chatfield D (AHL)
2017 ELC: Goldoblin L (NHL/AHL) and Dahlen C/L (NHL/AHL/ Europe)
2016: free agent ELC: Stecher D (NHL), Suatner D (AHL)

2016 Entry 1 Olli Juolevi D Either NHL or London Knights

- Nuck4U[OHL]
2016 Entry 3 W. Lockwood L NCAA
2016 Entry 5 Cole Candella D Hamilton Bulldogs [OHL]
2016 Entry 6 Jakob Stukel L Calgary Hitmen [WHL]
2016 Entry 7 Rodrigo Abols C Europe ? Not eligible for AHL
2016 Entry 7 Brett McKenzie C North Bay Battalion [OHL]

2015 Entry 1 Brock Boeser R NHL/AHL
2015 Entry 3 Guillaume Brisebois D AHL
2015 Entry 4 Dmitry Zhukenov C likely going to KHL
2015 Entry 5 Adam Gaudette C NCAA
2015 Entry 6 Lukas Jasek R [Czech League] could go to AHL

2014 Entry 1 Jake Virtanen R NHL/AHL
2014 Entry 2 Thatcher Demko G AHL
2014 Entry 3 Nikita Tryamkin D (KHL 1-3yrs)
2014 Entry 7 Mackenze Stewart D AHL

2013 Entry 1 Bo Horvat C NHL
2013 Entry 3 Cole Cassels C AHL
2013 Entry 4 Jordan Subban D AHL
2013 Entry 5 Anton Cederholm D Europe/AHL

2012 Entry 1 Brendan Guance C/L (RFA- needs waivers possible NHL
2012 Entry 5 Ben Hutton D (NHL)

2011 Entry 4 Joe Labate L (RFA- needs waivers NHL longshot

2009 Entry 2 Anton Rodin L/C (RFA - injured for 1.5yrs no NHL)

Canucks need to fill out 5 Forwards with 1/2 extras. Plus 1D maybe 1 extra.
Thus with needs/position who should Nucks sign plus send to the Comets?


i think zhukenov is gonzo. which is unfortunate. not signed.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 9 @ 12:46 AM ET
surprised to see tate olsen go. but, they should sign this guy

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162334
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 9 @ 12:53 AM ET
i think zhukenov is gonzo. which is unfortunate. not signed.
- storm88


Yeah. If he's going to KHL can't they qualify him or get to keep his rights? He was drafted out of Russia. So, he's not going back into draft like Olson and Tate, right?

Also, did you notice in the post on draft picks left going back to 2009 only Bo and Hutton are on the Canucks. Guance, Labate, JV and Rodin all questionable for next season. Why BB is important for JB especially with Tree MIA
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 9 @ 1:02 AM ET
surprised to see tate olsen go. but, they should sign this guy

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=162334

- storm88


Yes Raddysh is on the radar like other teams want him too. We'll have to wait until his playoffs are over before we know.

Nucks have 3 more contract spots open until July1. Then they have about 21 open. Lots of RFA's but must signs are Bo and Guddy. Of the six I listed in above they are all likely singed. They may get waived like Chaput and Gartieg for example. Shore is my question mark. But Canucks are very low on RH and centers. So he's more likely then Zalewski.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

May 9 @ 1:29 AM ET
Yes Raddysh is on the radar like other teams want him too. We'll have to wait until his playoffs are over before we know.

Nucks have 3 more contract spots open until July1. Then they have about 21 open. Lots of RFA's but must signs are Bo and Guddy. Of the six I listed in above they are all likely singed. They may get waived like Chaput and Gartieg for example. Shore is my question mark. But Canucks are very low on RH and centers. So he's more likely then Zalewski.

- Nuck4U


shore was out of desperation. didn't wanna raid utica anymore. the comets were trying to qualify for the playoffs. i like chaput and could see him back here as a 4th liner. Zhukenov i don't think was ever signed? i really wanted to see him in utica.

im not sure how it all went down. id prefer they keep his rights somehow. if they haven't already. in 3 years u can airlift him and tree back in.

but i'm sure all the haters would be against that.

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 9 @ 1:53 AM ET
shore was out of desperation. didn't wanna raid utica anymore. the comets were trying to qualify for the playoffs. i like chaput and could see him back here as a 4th liner. Zhukenov i don't think was ever signed? i really wanted to see him in utica.

im not sure how it all went down. id prefer they keep his rights somehow. if they haven't already. in 3 years u can airlift him and tree back in.

but i'm sure all the haters would be against that.

- storm88


We got Rodin back but unfortunately injured. So yeah keep the rights and you never know. Depth for another season.

As for now if they sign Chaput and Shore they should waive them for depth. Let them help develop the new incoming college and CHL players. Same with signing and waiving Labate.

I'm on the fence with Guance cause he's more likely to get picked up on waivers like Boucher. Might as well sign and keep them up. That leaves Cram to waive if JV is ready. I already have DD waived, traded or kept on IR. He offers less then Skille at this point. I also would IR Rodin to test out Dahlen. Then send one of them down.

Thus, you could say four spots left. As seen in the post above there is youth headed for AHL with returnees there too. But there are talent needs with Nucks. The forward spots open then could go JV, BB, Goldy and Dahlen to start. That leaves OJ and Pedan on D. Biega is now easier to waive post expansion draft.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 9 @ 2:03 AM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

May 9 @ 2:09 AM ET
Is there anyone here that does other than Nucker?
- allsports


I was referring to what's happening in our province tomorrow. No flyers or stars!
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 9 @ 2:21 AM ET
Klim Kostin. Best skater in the draft and a shot to go with it. Only reason he dropped was because of a shoulder injury. I would take him at 5.
- thundachunk



Sorry, I agree he's probably in the discussion for top ten, and he could go to 6(Not worthy of 5, even in this horrible draft year), but like like the vast majority of draft eligible players i don't believe that he plays more then 128 games in the nhl over his career.
Butt i kinda feel like that for everyone after the top two. Now i know that there will be some players that could shine, its just a really weak draft when a kid like Klim has a shot to go that high.....

But way too put your balls up on the wall so that we can throw darts at them. I won't do that, no need to expose them.

I don't really like anyone special.... this year after the top two of course.

(frank) I don't even know if I could choose one if I was the GM mode gm. Maybe mittlestat, villardi, Rasmussen, glass, makar, hirch..... then it drops off fast... with even a few of the guys that i mentioned not really being good enough to be considered in most first rounds.... trade the #5, Sven and tanev for Drouin and their 2018 first and second round picks.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 9 @ 2:29 AM ET
We got Rodin back but unfortunately injured. So yeah keep the rights and you never know. Depth for another season.

As for now if they sign Chaput and Shore they should waive them for depth. Let them help develop the new incoming college and CHL players. Same with signing and waiving Labate.

I'm on the fence with Guance cause he's more likely to get picked up on waivers like Boucher. Might as well sign and keep them up. That leaves Cram to waive if JV is ready. I already have DD waived, traded or kept on IR. He offers less then Skille at this point. I also would IR Rodin to test out Dahlen. Then send one of them down.

Thus, you could say four spots left. As seen in the post above there is youth headed for AHL with returnees there too. But there are talent needs with Nucks. The forward spots open then could go JV, BB, Goldy and Dahlen to start. That leaves OJ and Pedan on D. Biega is now easier to waive post expansion draft.

- Nuck4U


This was a coherent, well thought out, post.... for the most part anyways. If Dorset is good to go, and doesn't shy away from contact, then i feel he's a very needed element to our team. So he'd play.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 9 @ 2:47 AM ET
We got Rodin back but unfortunately injured. So yeah keep the rights and you never know. Depth for another season.

As for now if they sign Chaput and Shore they should waive them for depth. Let them help develop the new incoming college and CHL players. Same with signing and waiving Labate.

I'm on the fence with Guance cause he's more likely to get picked up on waivers like Boucher. Might as well sign and keep them up. That leaves Cram to waive if JV is ready. I already have DD waived, traded or kept on IR. He offers less then Skille at this point. I also would IR Rodin to test out Dahlen. Then send one of them down.

Thus, you could say four spots left. As seen in the post above there is youth headed for AHL with returnees there too. But there are talent needs with Nucks. The forward spots open then could go JV, BB, Goldy and Dahlen to start. That leaves OJ and Pedan on D. Biega is now easier to waive post expansion draft.

- Nuck4U


Hate to say it, but I disagree with your assessment, and I'm sure you will disagree with mine.

No thanks to Rodin, go back to Sweden.
I'd give Guance a chance, not Boucher, Dorset will, in my opinion, be on the team.
JV, Cramaosa?, Dahlen, Goldobin, Boesser, a training camp tryout and promptly send them to the AHL. I would let Boesser have a bit longer, but he needs proper development.
Joulevi should go back to junior if he struggles at camp, why oh why press someone into the NHL on such a terrible team.

I'm not nor ever will be a guy that thinks or wants the developing youth playing in an environment that will set them up for failure. There are no lucky bounces, there are no high end talent prospects that are going to propel the Canucks to the next level.

Let the kids develop in the development league, the team will suck, but play to win, only to lose and continue to draft high and become better through that process.
Again I know you will disagree, but I believe in reality and not what ifs, or lucky bounces.

Hockey post, no hate, no malice, just really disagree and hope most of this suspect talent is in the AHL.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 9 @ 3:00 AM ET
I was referring to what's happening in our province tomorrow. No flyers or stars!
- Scooby_Doo

Go orange, go green, choke blue choke
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 9 @ 3:06 AM ET
Hate to say it, but I disagree with your assessment, and I'm sure you will disagree with mine.

No thanks to Rodin, go back to Sweden.
I'd give Guance a chance, not Boucher, Dorset will, in my opinion, be on the team.
JV, Cramaosa?, Dahlen, Goldobin, Boesser, a training camp tryout and promptly send them to the AHL. I would let Boesser have a bit longer, but he needs proper development.
Joulevi should go back to junior if he struggles at camp, why oh why press someone into the NHL on such a terrible team.

I'm not nor ever will be a guy that thinks or wants the developing youth playing in an environment that will set them up for failure. There are no lucky bounces, there are no high end talent prospects that are going to propel the Canucks to the next level.

Let the kids develop in the development league, the team will suck, but play to win, only to lose and continue to draft high and become better through that process.
Again I know you will disagree, but I believe in reality and not what ifs, or lucky bounces.

Hockey post, no hate, no malice, just really disagree and hope most of this suspect talent is in the AHL.

- Makita

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 9 @ 3:09 AM ET
Although I'm 100% okay with Brock playing in the NHL as long as he earns his spot and is put in a position to succeed.
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