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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 9 @ 6:08 PM ET
Boucher is a good 3rd line NHLer.

Boucher Sutter Goldobin Is a nice balanced 3rd line.

- thundachunk


That's quite a leap of faith, the guy is useless when he's not producing offense.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
Smart on their part if they think they can sign him, makes good sense on both sides
- NorthNuck


We shall see if they can sign him.
He could probably go to a few teams as a ufa.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
5OA for 3OA + lehtonen?
- Retinalz


If it would get us into the top 2 i would be making moves...not sure if i would for 3OA.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
That's quite a leap of faith, the guy is useless when he's not producing offense.
- Nucker101

No leap of faith. He is a good 3rd liner. He was sound defensively and he battled. Also he has a great shot. Keyword he produced offence. Moving forward this team needs to score even if we aren't winning. I can't deal with being the lowest scoring team in the league. It embarrassing.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
If it would get us into the top 2 i would be making moves...not sure if i would for 3OA.
- dbot


The only players who are a guarantee are Nico and Patrick, so trading to 3rd is kinda useless.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

May 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
We shall see if they can sign him.
He could probably go to a few teams as a ufa.

- dbot


He could but Dallas gives him a best case scenario, he can get paid and play for a competitive team. Dallas should make the playoffs next year.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 6:15 PM ET
The only players who are a guarantee are Nico and Patrick, so trading to 3rd is kinda useless.
- SRam19

3 - 10 are all going to be very close imo.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
The only players who are a guarantee are Nico and Patrick, so trading to 3rd is kinda useless.
- SRam19

I would do it to ensure Vilardi. I think he is the 3rd best Center in the draft. His skating can easily be worked on if he hires a trainer during his offseason.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 9 @ 6:19 PM ET
I would do it to ensure Vilardi. I think he is the 3rd best Center in the draft. His skating can easily be worked on if he hires a trainer during his offseason.
- Retinalz

Let him train with Bo and we are good
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 9 @ 6:22 PM ET
5OA for 3OA + lehtonen?
- Retinalz

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
Reality is the hurt is here for the Nucks. I didn't offer an opinion piece like you assumed and have twice now. Which is fine. Your common theme that Canuck players are suspect talent that belong in the AHL. Well many will be developed there as the chart shows. Actually look at the page 8 12:30 post. Not just the one you chose to comment on. You may see the factual objective options facing the Canucks. There is a new reality for the Canucks.

There are several positions open to fill for the season. Some options come to integrating a couple rookies, that Nucks can deem ready for the NHL, or signing players with no NHL future to play them instead. This has nothing to do with impact for the season "your bounce" assumption theory. It's just NHL play and who is ready for the next step.

The depth options that should be in the AHL could play ahead of propects as you like. That's nothing new to these past couple seasons. But development of players and options are at a different crescendo. Camp will prove that out going into next season.

- Nuck4U


Interesting take again, I didn't imply you offered an opinion piece, once or twice. Actually look at the page 8, 02:47 post and the page 12, 3:15 post, you will see my replies where I actually reference that these posts are my opinions...and my opinion is that no matter what is posted that states, player x or player y or player z, are xx years away from UFA, RFA, or EL, I don't want to see them in the big club unless they are ready, keep them developing, if you risk losing them because of their pending contract status, then trade them. If they aren't good enough why should they be granted a position.

I thought I was engaging in a hockey discussion, that's fluid, not bound by made up assumptions.

Edit...My opinion earlier was Hutton should be AHL bound, doesn't mean he is waiver exempt or not....with his skill set he should be in the AHL.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
Thanks guys! Used to live in Van but been a loooong time. U2 Friday night...
- geta02it


If you like small intimate, Lupo near Yaletown is also good.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
Interesting take again, I didn't imply you offered an opinion piece, once or twice. Actually look at the page 8, 02:47 post and the page 12, 3:15 post, you will see my replies where I actually reference that these posts are my opinions...and my opinion is that no matter what is posted that states, player x or player y or player z, are xx years away from UFA, RFA, or EL, I don't want to see them in the big club unless they are ready, keep them developing, if you risk losing them because of their pending contract status, then trade them. If they aren't good enough why should they be granted a position.

I thought I was engaging in a hockey discussion, that's fluid, not bound by made up assumptions.

- Makita

allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 9 @ 6:28 PM ET
Dallas acquires Bishop's rights for 4th round pick
- WhiteLie


Apparently, Bishop played in Texas when he was younger and wanted to go to Dallas. Wonder who they're going to buyout?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
Any good scotch bars?
- geta02it


Irish Heather is a quick walk into Gastown
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
I wish Kailer Yamamoto was taller
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
Ok but with only 3 contracts left as in 47/50 already used what is the scenario?
PTO's? Trades to free up room? Or?

- Nighthawk

Only 34 contracts after June 1st.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

May 9 @ 6:35 PM ET
Apparently, Bishop played in Texas when he was younger and wanted to go to Dallas. Wonder who they're going to buyout?
- allsports


Well, they could likely pay Vegas to take at-least one of them...

Come to think of it, Niemi would be an ideal target for us, assuming Miller's gone.

Decent goalie, split duties with Marky, only 4.5 Mill on the books for a single season (2017-18). Try and pry a 2nd of out them or something.

Edit: Also, for Dallas to sign Bishop to the inevitable 6+ mill contract, they would pretty much have to dump both Niemi (4.5) and Lethonen (5.9).
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 6:43 PM ET
Well, they could likely pay Vegas to take at-least one of them...

Come to think of it, Niemi would be an ideal target for us, assuming Miller's gone.

Decent goalie, split duties with Marky, only 4.5 Mill on the books for a single season (2017-18). Try and pry a 2nd of out them or something.

Edit: Also, for Dallas to sign Bishop to the inevitable 6+ mill contract, they would pretty much have to dump both Niemi (4.5) and Lethonen (5.9).

- Whiskey-Tango

We already have a sh!tty back up. We need a starter. I would rather not waste that kind of money on a goalie again.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

May 9 @ 6:45 PM ET
We already have a sh!tty back up. We need a starter. I would rather not waste that kind of money on a goalie again.
- thundachunk


1. At this point in the 'rebuild', do we though?

2. And we already potentially do, its just going to take a few years.

3. Dallas would be paying us.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
1. At this point in the 'rebuild', do we though?

2. And we already potentially do, its just going to take a few years.

- Whiskey-Tango

We do next year. We don't this year.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
Well, they could likely pay Vegas to take at-least one of them...

Come to think of it, Niemi would be an ideal target for us, assuming Miller's gone.

Decent goalie, split duties with Marky, only 4.5 Mill on the books for a single season (2017-18). Try and pry a 2nd of out them or something.

Edit: Also, for Dallas to sign Bishop to the inevitable 6+ mill contract, they would pretty much have to dump both Niemi (4.5) and Lethonen (5.9).

- Whiskey-Tango


They clear off $12m with Sharp/Hemsky/Hudler, all of whom would be coming back for less money if they were wanted back at all.

I'd be fine with either, Lehtonen IMO is better but higher cap hit so not sure if Dallas would bother keeping him for that amount. I'd take a pick, prospect or the rights to Nichushkin
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 9 @ 6:53 PM ET
He was trolling your spelling. You should ban him.
- Marwood

Makita and I are both cops. Internet and mall cops
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

May 9 @ 6:54 PM ET
They clear off $12m with Sharp/Hemsky/Hudler, all of whom would be coming back for less money if they were wanted back at all.

I'd be fine with either, Lehtonen IMO is better but higher cap hit so not sure if Dallas would bother keeping him for that amount. I'd take a pick, prospect or the rights to Nichushkin

- WhiteLie


Agreeeeeeeed.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 9 @ 6:59 PM ET
Makita and I are both cops. Internet and mall cops
- CanuckDon

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