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Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 6 @ 8:42 PM ET
Looks like a good goal to me
- Richieattack18


it was and it is
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 6 @ 8:47 PM ET
Gary needs to change rule and let team scored against fans decide if its a good goal..
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

May 6 @ 9:00 PM ET
Gary needs to change rule and let team scored against fans decide if its a good goal..
- Fruitcakenipple

Love this buuuuoy!

Where is my clock. Should be closer to midnight
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

May 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
Wow, what a bunch of complaining about the officiating, eesh.

How in the world is any on ice official going to see Kessler supposedly interfering with the leg of the goalie. The referee behind the goal is straightlined by Talbot, the off/trail referee is screened by the Edmonton player and no linesman is gong to be in position to see anything through a mass of bodies around the crease.

How are you going to call GI anyway? While I am not a hockey official, I would think that the position of the puck is the number one priority, at least for the nearest referee, and getting a clear view of the whole play where Kesler is shoved/falls into into the crease is a difficult one for the other referee. The Official nearest the play has no real shot at the GI call either unless he's looking completely away from the puck.

Under the circumstances it is also hard to see how the war room could overrule the goal, is there really clear evidence Kesler pulled the pad and leg away intentionally? Not when I look at the play.

One last thing before I end, it is really sad to actually read people saying the games are fixed, so NBC/TSN/Whoever else and the NHL can make the most money possible. This is a 21st Century phenomenon and its 1000000000% wrong.

Do you really think professional officials whose livelihood and reputations are on the line every time they are on the ice are going to intentionally cheat? How can anyone think that the NHL, filled with owners who spend tons of time and millions of dollars for their teams are going to tolerate/allow the commissioner to pick winners and losers? You think Edmonton's owners are just there to pick up a few extra dollars when they could be making more profit investing their cash in something else?

Folks, this attitude is seeping down into lower levels of sports; I hear it all the time in games I officiate in or watch. Everyone who has a bad call go against their team or kid automatically thinks the ref, the other team, or someone is screwing their team, their kid, or the person they root for. then the players get bad attitudes and all of a sudden nobody want to play, nobody wants to officiate, and the joy of sports disappears. Just stop it will ya?
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

May 6 @ 9:26 PM ET
Wow, what a bunch of complaining about the officiating, eesh.

How in the world is any on ice official going to see Kessler supposedly interfering with the leg of the goalie. The referee behind the goal is straightlined by Talbot, the off/trail referee is screened by the Edmonton player and no linesman is gong to be in position to see anything through a mass of bodies around the crease.

How are you going to call GI anyway? While I am not a hockey official, I would think that the position of the puck is the number one priority, at least for the nearest referee, and getting a clear view of the whole play where Kesler is shoved/falls into into the crease is a difficult one for the other referee. The Official nearest the play has no real shot at the GI call either unless he's looking completely away from the puck.

Under the circumstances it is also hard to see how the war room could overrule the goal, is there really clear evidence Kesler pulled the pad and leg away intentionally? Not when I look at the play.

One last thing before I end, it is really sad to actually read people saying the games are fixed, so NBC/TSN/Whoever else and the NHL can make the most money possible. This is a 21st Century phenomenon and its 1000000000% wrong.

Do you really think professional officials whose livelihood and reputations are on the line every time they are on the ice are going to intentionally cheat? How can anyone think that the NHL, filled with owners who spend tons of time and millions of dollars for their teams are going to tolerate/allow the commissioner to pick winners and losers? You think Edmonton's owners are just there to pick up a few extra dollars when they could be making more profit investing their cash in something else?

Folks, this attitude is seeping down into lower levels of sports; I hear it all the time in games I officiate in or watch. Everyone who has a bad call go against their team or kid automatically thinks the ref, the other team, or someone is screwing their team, their kid, or the person they root for. then the players get bad attitudes and all of a sudden nobody want to play, nobody wants to officiate, and the joy of sports disappears. Just stop it will ya?

- jkumpire

What's your drink again ?
stringerbell
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.05.2015

May 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
First of all, I'm not a fan of either team here, so this is an unbiased opinion...

You guys got screwed by the league! They wanted Anaheim to win, and they made sure that happened.

However, that being said...

The goal was probably a good goal. It's questionably goalie-interference at best.

Your issue here is how fast the league called it a good goal.

I was watching the game, and even I said to myself 'Wow, that was FAST!' The league wanted Anaheim to score, and when the Ducks did, they didn't even look at the replay, they just called it a good goal as quickly as they could.

At first glance, Kesler looks like he's pushed in. But, when you look closely, Kesler was doing some pretty seedy stuff - and there was contact the entire time - which means that the league should have spent a hell of a lot more time looking at all the different replays. They didn't. They just immediately called it a good goal instead. They didn't even look. Even though there was contact for an extended period of time immediately before the goal. They didn't look, because they didn't want to find anything.

The league absolutely despises my team, so I know how long they look at a goal when they don't want it to count - and it's like 3 to 4x as long as what happened last night. They don't make a decision until ALL the replays are looked at. But, not last night!

That's as bad as intentionally calling it wrong. The league should be ashamed of themselves. Just like the NBA.
HockeyMo
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 6 @ 9:44 PM ET
He is clearly holding his leg out and away through the entire play. He's a piece of poop, garbage player who will cheat, bumble, swindle, and act like a complete jack-ass to win. May as well cue the Benny Hill theme every time he's on the ice it's such a farce. This guy would honestly take a poop on his own mother to swindle a goal.
HockeyMo
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 6 @ 9:46 PM ET
What's your drink again ?
- FLflames34


The same personality type that become cops become referees. The type that want control. There's unbelievable bias. Unbelievable posturing and power complex. And embarrassing attempts at "controlling something in their lives". In every league, at every level. Referees are among the biggest bullies on the planet.
ghostofRC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 09.21.2014

May 6 @ 9:51 PM ET
The derp is strong in here today... on both sides of the argument.
getzlaugh
Anaheim Ducks
Location: WA
Joined: 09.10.2015

May 6 @ 10:11 PM ET
puckhog
Joined: 08.29.2008

May 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
First of all, I'm not a fan of either team here, so this is an unbiased opinion...

You guys got screwed by the league! They wanted Anaheim to win, and they made sure that happened.

However, that being said...

The goal was probably a good goal. It's questionably goalie-interference at best.

Your issue here is how fast the league called it a good goal.

I was watching the game, and even I said to myself 'Wow, that was FAST!' The league wanted Anaheim to score, and when the Ducks did, they didn't even look at the replay, they just called it a good goal as quickly as they could.

At first glance, Kesler looks like he's pushed in. But, when you look closely, Kesler was doing some pretty seedy stuff - and there was contact the entire time - which means that the league should have spent a hell of a lot more time looking at all the different replays. They didn't. They just immediately called it a good goal instead. They didn't even look. Even though there was contact for an extended period of time immediately before the goal. They didn't look, because they didn't want to find anything.

The league absolutely despises my team, so I know how long they look at a goal when they don't want it to count - and it's like 3 to 4x as long as what happened last night. They don't make a decision until ALL the replays are looked at. But, not last night!

That's as bad as intentionally calling it wrong. The league should be ashamed of themselves. Just like the NBA.

- stringerbell


Wow...are you serious? The friggin Oilers pushed a player in to the goalie and you expect the league to count seconds of contact of the player pushed in to the goalie?? Step away from the pipe, dude. You're having a trip of epic proportions! Way to bring out some insignificant calls against your crappy Canucks team...yeah, if I were the league, judge, jury and executioner, I would relegate the Canucks to QML long time ago. Moron
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

May 6 @ 10:42 PM ET
The same personality type that become cops become referees. The type that want control. There's unbelievable bias. Unbelievable posturing and power complex. And embarrassing attempts at "controlling something in their lives". In every league, at every level. Referees are among the biggest bullies on the planet.
- HockeyMo

Referees never shot an unarmed black man.

Also, I was a referee. Most are impeccable gliders working a thankless job. For poor pay.

In that regard, your analogy works.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

May 6 @ 10:59 PM ET
Oh fck off!!! If the refs were fair it would've been the BOA!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 6 @ 11:00 PM ET
Oil got robbed. Too bad they can go cry their Mcjesus misfortune all they want. The Ducks are dirty robber barons that will get theirs too.

Is it possible for two teams to lose in a series?!?

Let's just skip to a Preds V Sens SCF for two deserving teams of getting a break.
KingsFan67
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Orange County, CA
Joined: 03.31.2011

May 6 @ 11:21 PM ET
I'm not a big fan of the Ducks but I think that was a good goal!
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 6 @ 11:22 PM ET
Two straight games where plays in the crease prevented Talbot from making a save. The call? Good goal, because reasons.

It's ok. They still got this.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 7 @ 12:30 AM ET
couldn't have happened to a better team this is karma edmonton for tanking for all those picks
doctordizzle
Joined: 07.14.2009

May 7 @ 12:44 AM ET
I thought this sort of thing only happened to Sabres fans.
I know a guy that can start printing up t shirts for cheap. Can go with No Goal, Phantom, with one day delivery or Get off My Ducking Goalie, Ducked, Ducken Foiled, Choked on Duck whatever slogan you want.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 7 @ 3:13 AM ET
couldn't have happened to a better team this is karma edmonton for tanking for all those picks
- 2Real



Difference between tanking and just SUCKING

Arizona and Buffalo tanked. Like when they literally traded players the minute they started to play well.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 7 @ 5:40 AM ET
SOME ONE PLEASE TELL LUCIC WHAT GOALTENDER INTERFERENCE IS




- getzlaugh


That's a hockey play if I've ever seen 1. Although, I must say Lucic was hard done by if the goalie wasn't penalised for interference.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 7 @ 5:42 AM ET
The same personality type that become cops become referees. The type that want control. There's unbelievable bias. Unbelievable posturing and power complex. And embarrassing attempts at "controlling something in their lives". In every league, at every level. Referees are among the biggest bullies on the planet.
- HockeyMo


We'll, lets clean up the sport & let them carry guns!
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

May 7 @ 5:50 AM ET
We'll, lets clean up the sport & let them carry guns!
- Aussiepenguin


Are you serious? Try officiating sometime, even on the lowest level then come back and talk to us about it. After seeing some of the abuse officials in the AFL and VFL take I am very surprised you say this.
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

May 7 @ 5:51 AM ET
What's your drink again ?
- FLflames34


Water, what's yours?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 7 @ 7:57 AM ET
Are you serious? Try officiating sometime, even on the lowest level then come back and talk to us about it. After seeing some of the abuse officials in the AFL and VFL take I am very surprised you say this.
- jkumpire


No!

I've reffed a few league games & it's hard. AFL VFL? Any person found abusing officials of those codes usually find themselves being sanctioned very hard!

So what abuse are you talking about?
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

May 7 @ 7:58 AM ET
initial contact wasnt interference, post contact, pulling on goalie pad, was.

problem is he's got a green light due to the initial contact when he got pushed it. Couple that with the officials on ice not seeing whats happening, it was always gonna be a mess of a call.

Oilers lost because they collapsed, not because of 1 badly called play, that still, the Oilers made happen.

As an oiler fan I'd be pissed, but switch your perspective and make that bad goal count as the Ducks 1st ever goal in that game, and then add the other 3 and see what you get. Same scenario, and in a best case basis, a tie while the Oiler team was still folding under pressure?

Take the loss at least knowing the young guys learned an expensive lesson. Dont trust the league and the officials to win a playoff game for you.
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