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Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 4:22 PM ET
Looking at mock expasion drafts like this one. http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...otected-player-lists-nhl/ Makes me think the Knights are only 3 or 4 years from making the playoffs with some good GM work.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
So, where are all the twits who usually do the whole spiel of making streit2theass the Golden Knights blogger? Just looking around for another silly gag?
- verwustung

You want to grab a bite at chic-fil-a?
PancakesPenner
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 04.20.2012

May 5 @ 5:16 PM ET
You want to grab a bite at chic-fil-a?
- Streit2ThePoint


Please don't feed the animals.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 5:20 PM ET
You want to grab a bite at chic-fil-a?
- Streit2ThePoint

What happened to being a Pens fan? That lasted an entire month. We totally miss you.
verwustung
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 5 @ 5:24 PM ET
You want to grab a bite at chic-fil-a?
- Streit2ThePoint

Not really. They use a lot of hormones and by-products in their "food". Let's think something more fresh and organic.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 5 @ 6:50 PM ET
Looking at mock expasion drafts like this one. http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...otected-player-lists-nhl/ Makes me think the Knights are only 3 or 4 years from making the playoffs with some good GM work.
- Zac_O


More something like this; quite a few options for Vegas:

Dadonov – Shipashev - Grabner
Wilson – Hanzal – Namestnikov
Pouliot – Soderberg – Lowry
Calvert – Z Smith – Smith-Pelly

Glendening – Panik

Others: Sceviour / McGinn / Poirier


Del Zotto – Manson
Kulikov – Miller
Sbisa – Dillon

Others: Benn / Schenn / Oleksiak / Pulock

Bishop
Grubauer
Murray

by the way, does Vegas need to put players through waivers after the expansion draft? I assume they will need to do so, since they can't have 30 nhl'ers on their roster.. only a few players available that will not have to go through waivers.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 7:00 PM ET
More something like this; quite a few options for Vegas:

Dadonov – Shipashev - Grabner
Wilson – Hanzal – Namestnikov
Pouliot – Soderberg – Lowry
Calvert – Z Smith – Smith-Pelly

Glendening – Panik

Others: Sceviour / McGinn / Poirier


Del Zotto – Manson
Kulikov – Miller
Sbisa – Dillon

Others: Benn / Schenn / Oleksiak / Pulock

Bishop
Grubauer
Murray

by the way, does Vegas need to put players through waivers after the expansion draft? I assume they will need to do so, since they can't have 30 nhl'ers on their roster.. only a few players available that will not have to go through waivers.

- MaximusAurelius

There is no chance they get Matt Murray unless it's from a trade.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
There is no chance they get Matt Murray unless it's from a trade.
- Zac_O


Who's trading for Fleury?
Dallas ? Buffalo ? Calgary?
Not too many feasible options out there..
Sheng Peng
Joined: 04.21.2017

May 5 @ 7:14 PM ET
All depends on whether or not a Russian fellow coming to the USofA on his maiden voyage can avoid the temptations of Vegas or not.
- skridscousin


Interesting quote from LV Review Journal's Steve Carp: "McPhee said several NHL teams were trying to sign Shipachyov. The GM added that the opportunity to immediately play meaningful minutes and to live in Las Vegas were the main factors in Shipachyov’s decision to sign with the Golden Knights."

Expect Shipper to score 15 goals, 30+ assists his first season
- Streit2ThePoint


This seems reasonable, perhaps the floor of Vegas's expectations.

A 2 Year Deal now can be labeled a franchise player? Sounds like a stretch in your terminology there...
- dcflyerfan71


I said "might"! If he reaches his ceiling, 60 points-plus, that could qualify him for possible franchise player (albeit for a not-so-good team).

It looks like Vegas is getting Dadonov too. Use your Google translator.

https://www.championat.co...sled-za-shipachjovym.html

- houseofcards74


Good find!

Really hoping they can get something going with Gusev, although im not sure if the Lighting who drafted him still have his rights.
- Yosimar89


TB still has his rights.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 7:18 PM ET
Who's trading for Fleury?
Dallas ? Buffalo ? Calgary?
Not too many feasible options out there..

- MaximusAurelius

No one. They will buy him out before the expansion draft.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 5 @ 7:22 PM ET
No one. They will buy him out before the expansion draft.
- Zac_O


2million caphit for 4 years.. does seem a bit harsh.

Probably Pens are better off offering a 1st 2017/2018 and something more to Vegas in order for them to avoid that cap penalty.. (and keep fleury)
verwustung
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
Interesting quote from LV Review Journal's Steve Carp: "McPhee said several NHL teams were trying to sign Shipachyov. The GM added that the opportunity to immediately play meaningful minutes and to live in Las Vegas were the main factors in Shipachyov’s decision to sign with the Golden Knights."

- Sheng.Peng

Live in Las Vegas? Bleh! I'd rather live in god forsaken Russia. (frank)ing heat there will melt your shoes to the pavement, and the stench of all those hotels and casinos reaks of booze and vomit. (frank) that place!
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 7:41 PM ET
2million caphit for 4 years.. does seem a bit harsh.

Probably Pens are better off offering a 1st 2017/2018 and something more to Vegas in order for them to avoid that cap penalty.. (and keep fleury)

- MaximusAurelius

It's better than losing a young above average goalie that has great playoff experience.

Best option would be if Fleury waives his NMC and is left unprotected in the expansion draft. He'd make more money being bought out and signing somewhere else but I question how much he gets in free agency. He wants to stay in the Burgh his best bet is waiving the NMC and hoping to not get picked
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 7:42 PM ET
Live in Las Vegas? Bleh! I'd rather live in god forsaken Russia. (frank)ing heat there will melt your shoes to the pavement, and the stench of all those hotels and casinos reaks of booze and vomit. (frank) that place!
- verwustung

Is there anything you dont complain about?
verwustung
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 5 @ 7:45 PM ET
Is there anything you dont complain about?
- Zac_O

How am I complaining exactly? I'm telling it like it is.
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 5 @ 9:22 PM ET
How am I complaining exactly? I'm telling it like it is.
- verwustung

Not here to argue. You just complain a lot.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 5 @ 10:36 PM ET
Looking at mock expasion drafts like this one. http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...otected-player-lists-nhl/ Makes me think the Knights are only 3 or 4 years from making the playoffs with some good GM work.
- Zac_O




Yes!!! Please take Matt Moulson, Vegas!!! Please!!!!
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 5 @ 10:38 PM ET
Live in Las Vegas? Bleh! I'd rather live in god forsaken Russia. (frank)ing heat there will melt your shoes to the pavement, and the stench of all those hotels and casinos reaks of booze and vomit. (frank) that place!
- verwustung



Forecast is for snow in Buffalo on Sunday, it's also been raining for five straight weeks here. We'll gladly take the heat and sunshine. It sucks here!
verwustung
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 01.21.2011

May 6 @ 12:37 AM ET
Forecast is for snow in Buffalo on Sunday, it's also been raining for five straight weeks here. We'll gladly take the heat and sunshine. It sucks here!
- sskkoo1

Sunshine is one thing. Searing heat is another.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Expect Shipper to score 15 goals, 30+ assists his first season
- Streit2ThePoint


Hi Streit2ThePoint ...big Vegas Fan, love your work on this site. Long time reader, first time poster

Do you think he gets the C?
Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

May 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
Yes!!! Please take Matt Moulson, Vegas!!! Please!!!!
- sskkoo1

You think GM Jake Eichel will leave him unprotected? Sorry, it was an easy joke, to easy to pass up.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 7 @ 1:13 AM ET
Hi Streit2ThePoint ...big Vegas Fan, love your work on this site. Long time reader, first time poster

Do you think he gets the C?

- DDM-Coga

Eric Fehr
BoltsFan1993
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: NS
Joined: 06.27.2014

May 8 @ 6:49 PM ET
There goes Gusev
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