I have a million 3rd rounders for you
- DDM-Coga

How many 3rds do I have to give up to get you to include Duncan?

How many 3rds do I have to give up to get you to include Duncan?
- smellmyfinger

thats a throw in for just being such a good customer giving us all your Stud D

thats a throw in for just being such a good customer giving us all your Stud D
- DDM-Coga

NJ has such a deep defense group we may as well just trade them all away.

You are so simple minded its shocking sometimes.

Teams who are trading for him aren't seeing him as a rental but a solution to a glaring need. A Top end C to push them to the next level.

Teams can extend players you know, they don't have to go to Free Agency.

Honestly man stop trying to look for stuff to be negative on
- DDM-Coga

The general consensus is that Carolina are not going to trade a upcoming defender for 2 years of Duchene. That would be a big risk.

Even Carolina fans wouldn't do it.

On a side note, Duchene wouldn't re-sign to stay in Carolina. He will go UFA.

You know who was drafted in that 2014 draft after pracey was fired and before Sakic hired McFarland and his own staff.

Thats right Lindholm...that 2014 class was a stinker post Pracey and Pre McFarland. So who is taking credit to the worst draft class in the Sakic Era? I see better results in 2015 on vs 2013 and 2014.

Come on man try for me one time to actually look stuff up
- DDM-Coga

Pracey was fired after the 2014 draft. McFarland came in during the 2015 playoffs, hes basically had 1 full draft with the team last season.

The general consensus is that Carolina are not going to trade a upcoming defender for 2 years of Duchene. That would be a big risk.

Even Carolina fans wouldn't do it.

On a side note, Duchene wouldn't re-sign to stay in Carolina. He will go UFA.
- Drij

Ron Francis is running the team, not you or Hurricanes fans. If he wants to trade for Duchene, he will do it. If he doesnt want to trade for him, he won't do it.

Ron Francis is running the team, not you or Hurricanes fans. If he wants to trade for Duchene, he will do it. If he doesnt want to trade for him, he won't do it.
- batman8990

yeah and just because someone on here says it's a good trade doesn't make it happen.

yeah and just because someone on here says it's a good trade doesn't make it happen.
- Drij

You only want to have the last word on people who dont think like you. Coga is right, not you. Stop trying to be better than Coga, it doesnt work for you.

The general consensus is that Carolina are not going to trade a upcoming defender for 2 years of Duchene. That would be a big risk.

Even Carolina fans wouldn't do it.

On a side note, Duchene wouldn't re-sign to stay in Carolina. He will go UFA.
- Drij

oh yeah? You have connections to all the carolina hurricanes. What general consensus is that....your opinion only? I guess you havent cared to talk to the ones on this site who said they would do that deal and would move Hanifin over Faulk or Slavin in an effort to get a Top line fwd. Or the fact that guys who are paid to cover the Avs have mentioned at the trade deadlines that the Hurricanes were one of the most interested teams in Duchene. Or the Ellliott friedman said it himself that Hurricanes would entertain offers for Hanifin only if they get a top line talent in retturn. So Where is this consensus again?

But hey you just keep on trying your hardest making up facts in an effort to support your negative for no reason narrative.

Keep on the good work of always looking like a fool by being constantly wrong

Pracey was fired after the 2014 draft. McFarland came in during the 2015 playoffs, hes basically had 1 full draft with the team last season.
- Drij

How dense are you, Thats exactly what I said.

McFarland came in early May 2015....the draft is in late June, so you know being on the job for almost 2 months doing what he was brought in to do. He was part of the 2015 and 2016 drafts as Sakics assistant GM. Pracey was part of the 2014 draft that Stunk. I don't know what your are trying to argue here. Basically saying you are correct with your time line Coga. Wow good point

what do you think McFarland was doing prior to being hired by the Avs, sitting in a dark closet not looking at prospects and talent....or you know what his job was in Columbus prior to jumping ship to the Avs.

Its almost sad how easy to correct you. I honestly believe you don't even really follow the Avs anymore. You just are clawing and spending your time trying to find ways to complain for no reason.

For all those watching at home, and enjoying seeing me shove this guy into a locker all day long.

this has nothing to do about McFarland and defending him. Its about how he refuses to see how changes have slowly started to happen in the past 2 years as soon as Sakic decide to get his own staff by adding McFarland vs just him and Roy calling all the Hockey Op shots.

Now we return to our regular scheduled programming of me dominating this clown

oh yeah? You have connections to all the carolina hurricanes. What general consensus is that....your opinion only? I guess you havent cared to talk to the ones on this site who said they would do that deal and would move Hanifin over Faulk or Slavin in an effort to get a Top line fwd. Or the fact that guys who are paid to cover the Avs have mentioned at the trade deadlines that the Hurricanes were one of the most interested teams in Duchene. Or the Ellliott friedman said it himself that Hurricanes would entertain offers for Hanifin only if they get a top line talent in retturn. So Where is this consensus again?

But hey you just keep on trying your hardest making up facts in an effort to support your negative for no reason narrative.

Keep on the good work of always looking like a fool by being constantly wrong
- DDM-Coga

Go to other websites with a greater population of people then hockeybuzz and read what fans from all teams say about this potential trade.

How dense are you, Thats exactly what I said.

McFarland came in early May 2015....the draft is in late June, so you know being on the job for almost 2 months doing what he was brought in to do. He was part of the 2015 and 2016 drafts as Sakics assistant GM. Pracey was part of the 2014 draft that Stunk. I don't know what your are trying to argue here. Basically saying you are correct with your time line Coga. Wow good point

what do you think McFarland was doing prior to being hired by the Avs, sitting in a dark closet not looking at prospects and talent....or you know what his job was in Columbus prior to jumping ship to the Avs.

Its almost sad how easy to correct you. I honestly believe you don't even really follow the Avs anymore. You just are clawing and spending your time trying to find ways to complain for no reason.
- DDM-Coga

And you know what he was doing when he was in between jobs because ?

For all those watching at home, and enjoying seeing me shove this guy into a locker all day long.

this has nothing to do about McFarland and defending him. Its about how he refuses to see how changes have slowly started to happen in the past 2 years as soon as Sakic decide to get his own staff by adding McFarland vs just him and Roy calling all the Hockey Op shots.

Now we return to our regular scheduled programming of me dominating this clown
- DDM-Coga

You are the one who brought up McFarland being a sign the team in improving. If you are so sure he's good for the team. Well guess what. He was there for all those terrible free agent signings and those bad trades. You just blame Roy for everything that's bad with Colorado. The real blames starts with The owner, Sakic, Billington, the coaching, the players etc. Colorado has along history of a losing culture since the old guard retired. It's time to clean house and bring in an experienced NHL GM and coaching staff. Stop trying to bring in guys with no experience running an NHL team. Until that happens this team with be a bottom if the barrel team.

I dont think there is a chance they take Comeau, but if they do, Ill be doing cartwheels to get rid of that guy
- DDM-Coga

I think it will be one of these guys: barbs, rocco (ahl depth) Comeau, soderberg (if he get back to a 40 point season that's huge win) I don't see value in protecting any of them. I'm kind of hoping they get beau to waive or buy him out, then protect 7-3-varly and use that open 1 or 2 spots for protecting other teams players for picks. This also forces Vegas to take someone. But Vegas draft and what teams do will be fun to watch

Go to other websites with a greater population of people then hockeybuzz and read what fans from all teams say about this potential trade.
- Drij

Thats your rebuttal, Other hockey websites that I go on wouldn't move Hannifin?
so you overlook the fact that paid hockey professionals in beat Writers and insiders...with one of the top in the world in Friedman, have all mentioned that Hanifin could be moved.

You really stink at debating

And you know what he was doing when he was in between jobs because ?
- Drij

Yes I do....his job as Assistant GM of the Columbus Blue Jackets were he was tasked with running and developing their AHL system.

He wasn't fired in Columbus, he left them one day and join the avs the next.
Not hard to figure that one out

You are the one who brought up McFarland being a sign the team in improving. If you are so sure he's good for the team. Well guess what. He was there for all those terrible free agent signings and those bad trades. You just blame Roy for everything that's bad with Colorado. The real blames starts with The owner, Sakic, Billington, the coaching, the players etc. Colorado has along history of a losing culture since the old guard retired. It's time to clean house and bring in an experienced NHL GM and coaching staff. Stop trying to bring in guys with no experience running an NHL team. Until that happens this team with be a bottom if the barrel team.
- Drij

No I said that things have been encouraging over the past 2 years...and Sakic hiring his own staff and taking over more duties from Roy was a connection of that. The roster direction shifted, their drafting shifted, the fact they hired analytic department shifted. Weird that all that happened after 2015

Its not shocking to see when Sakic got a more seasoned staff and wasn't talking with Sherman and Billington about Hockey Ops any longer with Roy influencing moves, they started to shift directions. As small as they may be they are encouraging since they don't have Roys finger prints on them anymore

But you can't keep your negative storylines straight so you just try to get the last word on everything.

You would think I would be tired of body bagging you but I am not...Its just so easy

I think it will be one of these guys: barbs, rocco (ahl depth) Comeau, soderberg (if he get back to a 40 point season that's huge win) I don't see value in protecting any of them. I'm kind of hoping they get beau to waive or buy him out, then protect 7-3-varly and use that open 1 or 2 spots for protecting other teams players for picks. This also forces Vegas to take someone. But Vegas draft and what teams do will be fun to watch
- skywalker1987

I would love for Sodeberg to go, but the fact they signed Ship early this week. I think they will take a big hit in them wanting Berg, Grigs, etc.

I could see Rocco. He did amazing in the AHL this year and could be a nice add for them. I think hes a good 4th line energy guy in limit roles. Would do well in Vegas.

Barb is probably the pick, which would suck, he was such a nice add. I hope for Colborn Comeau Sodeberg but I don't think Vegas is that dumb

I would love for Sodeberg to go, but the fact they signed Ship early this week. I think they will take a big hit in them wanting Berg, Grigs, etc.

I could see Rocco. He did amazing in the AHL this year and could be a nice add for them. I think hes a good 4th line energy guy in limit roles. Would do well in Vegas.

Barb is probably the pick, which would suck, he was such a nice add. I hope for Colborn Comeau Sodeberg but I don't think Vegas is that dumb
- DDM-Coga

I think we need a Cogas corner blog right under the Garth one on the main page. Let's make HockeyBuzz great again.

I think we need a Cogas corner blog right under the Garth one on the main page. Let's make HockeyBuzz great again.
- smellmyfinger

I would Call it Cogas Kitchen. Its a mix of Hot Stove and Coaches Corner.

Covering Hot Takes to Sandwich Takes

I would Call it Cogas Kitchen. Its a mix of Hot Stove and Coaches Corner.

Covering Hot Takes to Sandwich Takes
- DDM-Coga

EK MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOW!!!!!!!!!

Can I be a guest rumor blogger, we can call it Porkroll Pitches.

EK MAKE THIS HAPPEN NOW!!!!!!!!!

Can I be a guest rumor blogger, we can call it Porkroll Pitches.
- smellmyfinger

OHHHH YEAH

No I said that things have been encouraging over the past 2 years...and Sakic hiring his own staff and taking over more duties from Roy was a connection of that. The roster direction shifted, their drafting shifted, the fact they hired analytic department shifted. Weird that all that happened after 2015

Its not shocking to see when Sakic got a more seasoned staff and wasn't talking with Sherman and Billington about Hockey Ops any longer with Roy influencing moves, they started to shift directions. As small as they may be they are encouraging since they don't have Roys finger prints on them anymore

- DDM-Coga

Yes and I'm saying nothing Sakic has done is encouraging. With all the moves Joe has done, the team is getting worse.

Yes and I'm saying nothing Sakic has done is encouraging. With all the moves Joe has done, the team is getting worse.
- Drij

Well you want to live in a negative world thats fine.

But if you can see them drafting better, building an AHL system, hiring analytics department. Bringing in youth with signing their own draft picks, making smaller but smart claims moves to bring in guys that fits with Bednar who they are sticking with bc he is decent coach.

I would say yes it is encouraging bc they are moving on with the same vision and not 2 polar opposite visions of Roy and Sakic.

Does Sakic have to be better, yes, but what he has done In years 1-2 of the job vs 3-4...I would say he is getting better and its an encouraging sign. They have a lot of work to do still, but firing for the sake of firing and hating for the sake of hating isn't going to solve anything. Unless they are clear mgmt upgrades out there, you explore them, since there is not, whats the point of I HATE JOE SAKIC, HES THE WORST, FIRE HIM, LOSING CULTURE, I HATE THIS TEAM crap that you spew. If you don't want to be on the ride then don't.

The team is not worse off now vs the end of the 2016 season.