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Relentless
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 4 @ 8:21 PM ET
Regarding Kovy, I think their best bet is to approach teams that suffered early playoff exits. Chicago - Kovy for Trevor Van Resmdyk or Montreal for Galchenuk. St Louis is also on the brink as well so maybe a guy like Robby Fabbri and a 3rd might make sense. Yak's an RFA so that might be an option. No Shattenkirk. Too expensive.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 4 @ 8:25 PM ET
Regarding Kovy, I think their best bet is to approach teams that suffered early playoff exits. Chicago - Kovy for Trevor Van Resmdyk or Montreal for Galchenuk. St Louis is also on the brink as well so maybe a guy like Robby Fabbri and a 3rd might make sense. Yak's an RFA so that might be an option. No Shattenkirk. Too expensive.
- Relentless

I want no part of TVR or Yakupov.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 8:25 PM ET
You want schenn less. Both make dumb decisions, but Schenn has cinder blocks for feet
- tomburton99

Very good point
Relentless
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 4 @ 8:26 PM ET
Also, congratulations to Cam Dineen, Toms River, NJ kid. Signed his entry level deal with the Coyotes today.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
I want no part of TVR or Yakupov.
- CaptCrankypants

Or galchenuk
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
Shatty would be a big mistake IMO. He's gonna get a $7Mish contract. You guys could try and sign both Alzner and Del Zotto, and spend only a little more than you'd be spending on Shatty.

NSH and MIN are probably good teams to look at since they won't be able to protect all their dmen and they have an abundance of quality.

- Rinosaur


This is a realistic strategy. A lot of the fanbase wants Shattenkirk and I am vehemently opposed to it. Greene, Lovejoy, and Severson can play 1-4, but we need another guy who's "okay at all facets"... Alzner would fit the bill until we develop a d-man or until one disgruntled one is available and we outbid the other teams (our best asset is taking a bad contract, but we also have a handful of picks in the 2nd/3rd round this year). Ducks might also unload a journeyman we can pluck for picks before it gets plucked for nothing.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 8:28 PM ET
Also, congratulations to Cam Dineen, Toms River, NJ kid. Signed his entry level deal with the Coyotes today.
- Relentless

Any relation to Kevin?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 4 @ 8:32 PM ET
I want no part of TVR or Yakupov.
- CaptCrankypants

I must be missing something. What's wrong with TVR? Wasn't he supposed to be good?
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 4 @ 8:35 PM ET
Or galchenuk
- shvingter88


If we got Galchenyuk for Kovy, that'd be a steal.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
I must be missing something. What's wrong with TVR? Wasn't he supposed to be good?
- willschulme


He's a grunt... a role player.
Relentless
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 4 @ 8:44 PM ET
That's funny you asked that. Yes he is Kevin's son. Even if he makes it to the NHL he will have have a hard time being considered the best defenseman to come out of his neighborhood. In order to do that he would need to play over 1,289 games and have 743 points. Matthieu Schneider might have been born in NYC, but grew up and played hockey in Toms River.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 8:57 PM ET
If we got Galchenyuk for Kovy, that'd be a steal.
- archromat

Yeah we need an undersized average center that was replaced by philip danault.

I'll stick with Henrique.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 9:01 PM ET
He's a grunt... a role player.
- archromat

Gotta say with all the crap you get for being the dman spreadsheet guy, you've never been more right on this one.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 4 @ 9:02 PM ET
That's funny you asked that. Yes he is Kevin's son. Even if he makes it to the NHL he will have have a hard time being considered the best defenseman to come out of his neighborhood. In order to do that he would need to play over 1,289 games and have 743 points. Matthieu Schneider might have been born in NYC, but grew up and played hockey in Toms River.
- Relentless

Perfect he is now my boy and I hope he is included in the kovy for schenn trade
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 4 @ 9:33 PM ET
Or galchenuk
- shvingter88

The Habs have (frank)ed around with him so much. He's still somewhat productive while being bounced around by coaches. Yakupov is no officially a bust.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 4 @ 10:07 PM ET
Yeah we need an undersized average center that was replaced by philip danault.

I'll stick with Henrique.

- shvingter88


He should have worked on his French speaking skills so that he could get selected first star more often at the Centre Bell.

Nevertheless, he's worth about as much as Drouin is on the wing. We aren't getting Galchenyuk nor Drouin with Kovy.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 4 @ 10:42 PM ET
We have a Spooner for sale.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 4 @ 10:44 PM ET
Now that Shipachyov is playing for Vegas, I wonder if Kovy would want to join him. Kovy for their first rounder?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
He's as good as yours
- shvingter88


Thats a face that is sick of macaroni.
NoRussian
Edmonton Oilers
Location: City of Champions, AB
Joined: 02.21.2017

May 5 @ 2:33 AM ET
Or we could see the rights of Shattenkirk swapped/traded for Kovy's...

Washington would see a top line of

Ovi-Kuz-Kov or place Backstrom in for Kuz.........

Damn.



Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 5 @ 4:13 AM ET
We have a Spooner for sale.
- Newgod77


Big spoon or little spoon?
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 5 @ 6:38 AM ET
Or we could see the rights of Shattenkirk swapped/traded for Kovy's...

Washington would see a top line of

Ovi-Kuz-Kov or place Backstrom in for Kuz.........

Damn.

- NoRussian

No thank you. I'll take Orlov.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

May 5 @ 6:58 AM ET
I must be missing something. What's wrong with TVR? Wasn't he supposed to be good?
- willschulme

If he played for a team other than Chicago you wouldn't even know he existed.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 5 @ 7:59 AM ET
Or we could see the rights of Shattenkirk swapped/traded for Kovy's...

Washington would see a top line of

Ovi-Kuz-Kov or place Backstrom in for Kuz.........

Damn.

- NoRussian


Again, Kovy can only sign post July 1. By then, Shattenkirk won't belong to Washington.

(It also means he's not going for picks this year... )
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 5 @ 8:39 AM ET
Or we could see the rights of Shattenkirk swapped/traded for Kovy's...

Washington would see a top line of

Ovi-Kuz-Kov or place Backstrom in for Kuz.........

Damn.

- NoRussian

Can only sign and trade no rights trading
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