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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 5 @ 12:26 PM ET
He did that with Lafontaine...

But he wasn't in on the GM hiring so maybe he wants to hire the GM first and find a VP that supports the vision?

IDK

- Stripes77



they do have a lot riding on expansion and the regular draft. Perhaps want someone in here ASAP taking care of those day to day things and then worry about presidency later.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 5 @ 12:26 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account @pham1717 37m37 minutes ago According to Darren Dreger, he told the Instigators that to his understanding, the Sabres interview process is over so he feels something is clogging things up
5 replies 8 retweets 13 likes
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
How would Friedman even know this??
- MCGUIZZY


Friedman is pretty well connected. He doesn't just throw stuff out there without it being true. He's no Ek or garth that's for sure. Usually if he writes it its true.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 5 @ 12:28 PM ET
@ BED. what would you read this as if botterill turned the job down because the sabres wanted to hire a VP as well?
- Sabresfan-365



lol why you asking me

But if I'm Botteril, I'm wondering why the (frank) ownership is asking my permission for anything and completely puzzled by not the question, but the implications of it.

And the implications are: "Are you comfortable with us not having a (frank)ing clue how to run this team but also micromanaging it and bringing in our own guy to butt heads with you on all of your decisions?"
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

May 5 @ 12:29 PM ET
I think 90% of the reason Moulson and Okposo were signed was to lure him here down the road.

But still, if it's a sign and trade, who knows with NYI management. It would certainly involve the 8th, Reinhart and possibly Nylander but I'd do it all day long.

- BeadyEyedDouche



I dont think its out of the realm of possibility. You wont have to pay Reinhart and you can fill in the rest with rookie contracts


Kane-Eichel-Baptiste/Nylander
Oreilly-Tavares-Okposo
Foligno-Girgensons-Bailey
Carrier-Larsson-Rodriguez
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 5 @ 12:29 PM ET
He did that with Lafontaine...

But he wasn't in on the GM hiring so maybe he wants to hire the GM first and find a VP that supports the vision?

IDK

- Stripes77


That seems kind of backwards doesn't it? So does that mean he takes the new GM with them to find a VP so they don't clash?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 5 @ 12:30 PM ET
lol why you asking me

But if I'm Botteril, I'm wondering why the (frank) ownership is asking my permission for anything and completely puzzled by not the question, but the implications of it.

And the implications are: "Are you comfortable with us not having a (frank)ing clue how to run this team but also micromanaging it and bringing in our own guy to butt heads with you on all of your decisions?"

- BeadyEyedDouche


suppose thats one way to read it.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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May 5 @ 12:31 PM ET
That seems kind of backwards doesn't it? So does that mean he takes the new GM with them to find a VP so they don't clash?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



It's what happened with the Bills find a coach and find a GM that works well with the coach kind of thing.


I mean maybe he (Pegula) wants to hire the GM that has a certain vision first and then find a President to oversee it all with the same vision.

Like 365 said with the expansion draft looming find the GM first
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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May 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account @pham1717 37m37 minutes ago According to Darren Dreger, he told the Instigators that to his understanding, the Sabres interview process is over so he feels something is clogging things up
5 replies 8 retweets 13 likes

- Stripes77


Okay let's say if my creepy ability is right who in New Jersey could be a VP?

Maybe the GM is in place there getting the VP now
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 5 @ 12:32 PM ET
didnt patty hire TM? thats a hard no
- Sabresfan-365

Then again are you sure?cause the way things are going, if Elliotts report is true (g.m.first then v.p.)then Pegulas doing things ass backwards imho maybe he was the one to hire Murray?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
Then again are you sure?cause the way things are going, if Elliotts report is true (g.m.first then v.p.)then Pegulas doing things ass backwards imho maybe he was the one to hire Murray?
- MR.Hunter



he said he wasnt involved last time so...
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
I dont think its out of the realm of possibility. You wont have to pay Reinhart and you can fill in the rest with rookie contracts


Kane-Eichel-Baptiste/Nylander
Oreilly-Tavares-Okposo
Foligno-Girgensons-Bailey
Carrier-Larsson-Rodriguez

- MCGUIZZY


Damn dude as I hit quote you edited in the 3rd and 4th lines and I got creeped out because I didn't see it show up until I got to the response page haha

But others will complain our D didn't get addressed... My only complaint is the lack of wingers for Eichel. Landing Tavares almost certainly means Kane is gone via trade or FA but our bottom 6 looks really good moving forward in this scenario.

I think the D can be addressed through a FA pickup this summer, not Shattenkirk but something like Del Zotto or equivalent, then Guhle/McCabe/Antipin/Nelson hopefully stepping up to some capacity.

We need scoring, not D. Our D looked so bad last year because of our system. It literally removed offensive rushes and chances for the D by forcing outlet passes and dump and chase.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
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May 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
suppose thats one way to read it.
- Sabresfan-365


What are your thoughts?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
Okay let's say if my creepy ability is right who in New Jersey could be a VP?

Maybe the GM is in place there getting the VP now

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Not sure? ...but it's getting exciting Eichels mom (just kidding ) but does any of the candidates live in jersey? Or what's jerseys asst g.m.?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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May 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
It's what happened with the Bills find a coach and find a GM that works well with the coach kind of thing.


I mean maybe he (Pegula) wants to hire the GM that has a certain vision first and then find a President to oversee it all with the same vision.

Like 365 said with the expansion draft looming find the GM first

- Stripes77


I see and probably doesn't want to lose that candidate makes sense
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
Which is no where near his fault in the slightest
- sbroads24



I didn't say it was
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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May 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Not sure? ...but it's getting exciting Eichels mom (just kidding ) but does any of the candidates live in jersey? Or what's jerseys asst g.m.?
- MR.Hunter


You made me spit out my tomato juice with that, thank you
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Paul Hamilton‏Verified account @pham1717 37m37 minutes ago According to Darren Dreger, he told the Instigators that to his understanding, the Sabres interview process is over so he feels something is clogging things up
5 replies 8 retweets 13 likes

- Stripes77

sounds like Jason will get hired as soon as penguins are eliminated, or win the cup


just an educated guess
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
What are your thoughts?
- BeadyEyedDouche



i like that he acknowledges some sort of change in structure is required. earlier in the week 89 mentioned terry was on the fence about hiring a vp and i thought thatd be a mistake.

I get that the timing is ass backwards but i understand why theyve chosen to do it this way. whoever takes over this job needs to hit the ground running. learn as much about what he has here and prep for 2 different drafts.

It sucks and far from an ideal situation but i get it.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

May 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
he said he wasnt involved last time so...
- Sabresfan-365

what someone not involved in decision making processes might look like.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
sounds like Jason will get hired as soon as penguins are eliminated, or win the cup


just an educated guess

- homiedclown


maybe thats the problem. they want someone working on the team ASAP and he really wants another cup.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
sounds like Jason will get hired as soon as penguins are eliminated, or win the cup


just an educated guess

- homiedclown


This is the best case scenario and that hiring a VP is to cover for him while he's still with Pittsburgh.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
I dont think its out of the realm of possibility. You wont have to pay Reinhart and you can fill in the rest with rookie contracts


Kane-Eichel-Baptiste/Nylander
Oreilly-Tavares-Okposo
Foligno-Girgensons-Bailey
Carrier-Larsson-Rodriguez

- MCGUIZZY

right now you won't have to pay reinhart much anyways



Kane-Eichel-Baptiste
ROR-JT-Okposo
Nylander-Reinhart-Bailey
Carrier-E Rod-Moulson


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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May 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
http://www.iihfworlds2017...ews/every-moment-matters/

Petersen article...worth a read
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 5 @ 12:41 PM ET
I see and probably doesn't want to lose that candidate makes sense
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Ya could be right? Cause if your not in the know obviously it's hard to tell, but Mr.pag has his hands full (bills/sabres )
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