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Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
That's why I'm proposing Reinhart and the 8th overall for Ovechkin. It sounds nuts on paper for both teams but THIS is the type of trade that both teams need. High risk/high reward. We get our "Hossa" type, a guy who's over 30 but shows no signs of slowing down physically/scoring, who is currently a star player on a team that constantly underachieves and would be a bonafide scoring winger for Eichel for the next 4 years.

Our big contracts would be Eichel/ROR/Ovechkin/Okposo/Ristolainen and we'd have McCabe, Guhle, Antipin? rounding out the top-4. Keep Lehner, his sv% shows he can be a solid starter.

Reinhart is constantly floated around as trade-bait for a D but I think we have to give up too much for one in addition to him and can plug a guy in through FA. I don't see us landing a big name D this summer in a trade, honestly.

With Baptise/Bailey/Nylander coming up, we have to place faith in them to be our Saad/Panarin/Teravainen types. Rodriguez is a great 3C/4C, and it's easy to find bottom 6 guys in FA.

I also want to keep Girgensons and drop Foligno.

- BeadyEyedDouche


No way Washington does that trade.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
@sbroads - isn't Trevor Daley like one of the worst possession guys in the league? I'm surprised you'd put him in your 'yes' list....
- Phatjohnsn

His underlying numbers usually suck, but he can fly and has offensive ability.

I would inly want him for a 3rd pairing role
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 4:39 PM ET
No way Washington does that trade.
- Matthews_Auston


I wouldn't be so sure. Management there has to make a decision this summer if Washington goes down in the next game. It clearly isn't working and he's their most valuable asset. It's the perfect time for them to consider trading him while he still has value to bring them something in return.

You don't build your team around a winger and this is a perfect example. We have a franchise center, the fanbase needs a big splash to get excited for next season and a Fowler type of player would be just as expensive with half the impact. A lot of those West coast guys don't transition to the Eastern conference very well unless they're Pronger and he was a fukkin giant.

Washington, regardless of who the trade partner is, needs to strongly consider moving on from Ovechkin as the face of their franchise and el capitan. They can get value but no one will overpay for him with his age and contract.

I'm fully aware it sounds nuts but that team cannot keep having 2nd round exits after President trophy seasons and they will have to deal with Pittsburgh next year and the year after and the year after... The supposed Crosby/Ovechkin rivalry is going to remain one-sided for the foreseeable future.

Backstrom won't get them enough in return, Holtby isn't going anywhere and they don't have much else of value that would plug a few spots on their team.

What does the fanbase want? Ovechkin for the next 4 years but early exits from the playoffs or a team that can compete without the distraction and get over the hump to win a championship? Their window is closing but a surprise trade like this can extend that window.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 4:45 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BuffNewsVogl/status/860200709651869701

gerbe's fault.


stop tracking planes dammit

- Sabresfan-365


I started a revolution damn millennials
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 4:50 PM ET
I called Botterill as new gm a week and a half ago.
- Flynox


......
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 4:53 PM ET
I think Washington blows it up this summer.

Reinhart and the 8th for Ovechkin.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Ov needs to invest in some Touch of Gray
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

May 4 @ 4:55 PM ET
The deal will be announced by the end of the week, lest they really be cutting it close for time.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 4:56 PM ET
EVEN less of a chance I'm giving up that much for Drouin...
- gordong

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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 4:58 PM ET
I think Washington blows it up this summer.

Reinhart and the 8th for Ovechkin.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Sounds good, i'd give them Nylander as well if needed.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:04 PM ET
Sounds good, i'd give them Nylander as well if needed.
- SABRES 89


gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 4 @ 5:05 PM ET

I'd be good with cutting some of the dead weight this off season and picking up 1 or 2 D-men.

I really don't need the new GM coming in and start giving away assets like the other guy.


GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

May 4 @ 5:07 PM ET
I'd be good with cutting some of the dead weight this off season and picking up 1 or 2 D-men.

I really don't need the new GM coming in and start giving away assets like the other guy.

- gordong


We kind of have to give up asset to get a good defenseman, winger
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 4 @ 5:09 PM ET
We kind of have to give up asset to get a good defenseman, winger
- GERBE!!!75PTS



FA / Draft, young guys we already have.

just hire the right coach and GM THIS time. Let's see what we really have
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 5:13 PM ET

- BeadyEyedDouche

Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 4 @ 5:35 PM ET
Honestly, when was the last time anyone with Ovechkin's status was traded?

Kovalchuk to the Devils in '10?
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

May 4 @ 5:39 PM ET
Why hasn't the Russian D-man signed with us yet?
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

May 4 @ 5:40 PM ET
Why hasn't the Russian D-man signed with us yet?
- SabreWest



Vodka Binge?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 4 @ 5:41 PM ET
Why hasn't the Russian D-man signed with us yet?
- SabreWest


I'd wait to meet the new GM personally. I had heard that he would sign after Worlds from the get go, but not sure as to all the rationale.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 4 @ 5:41 PM ET
Vodka Binge?
- gordong


Certainly plausible
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

May 4 @ 5:42 PM ET
Honestly, when was the last time anyone with Ovechkin's status was traded?

Kovalchuk to the Devils in '10?

- Sabre_Tooth


Wasn't he a FA?
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

May 4 @ 5:44 PM ET
Blackhawks fan coming in peace, Buffalo is probably my favorite team besides the Hawks.
Would you guys be willing to take Seabrook for something?
I don't want to piss anyone off, but what about Seabrook for the 8th Overall pick and Zemgus? Or what about Seabrook for Reinhart and Falk?

We need to dump salary, and unfortunately Crawford and Seabrook are the most expendable right now. Seabrook isn't as fast as he once was (which was never blindlng), but he is a good PP guy and would become the best #2 you've ever had behind Risto.

Hawks desperately need depth scoring, defense, and prospects to refill the cupboard.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:50 PM ET
Wasn't he a FA?
- Matthews_Auston


Thrashers get rookie forward Niclas Bergfors, defenseman Johnny Oduya, prospect Patrice Cormier and a first-round pick in this year's draft [for Iilya].

http://www.espn.com/nhl/news/story?id=4888109
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

May 4 @ 5:52 PM ET
Blackhawks fan coming in peace, Buffalo is probably my favorite team besides the Hawks.
Would you guys be willing to take Seabrook for something?
I don't want to piss anyone off, but what about Seabrook for the 8th Overall pick and Zemgus? Or what about Seabrook for Reinhart and Falk?

We need to dump salary, and unfortunately Crawford and Seabrook are the most expendable right now. Seabrook isn't as fast as he once was (which was never blindlng), but he is a good PP guy and would become the best #2 you've ever had behind Risto.

Hawks desperately need depth scoring, defense, and prospects to refill the cupboard.

- ObeseOprah



Sorry, Seabrook is falling too fast at his age for his contract size and term, no way I give up the #8 or Reinhart for him. A few seasons ago, sure, but not anymore, he's becoming an albatross.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:52 PM ET
Blackhawks fan coming in peace, Buffalo is probably my favorite team besides the Hawks.
Would you guys be willing to take Seabrook for something?
I don't want to piss anyone off, but what about Seabrook for the 8th Overall pick and Zemgus? Or what about Seabrook for Reinhart and Falk?

We need to dump salary, and unfortunately Crawford and Seabrook are the most expendable right now. Seabrook isn't as fast as he once was (which was never blindlng), but he is a good PP guy and would become the best #2 you've ever had behind Risto.

Hawks desperately need depth scoring, defense, and prospects to refill the cupboard.

- ObeseOprah


He's 32. I want absolutely nothing to do with him if a 1st or Reinhart are involved. Sorry, maybe you can have Evander Kane for him but we do not want or need a 32 year old defenseman right now. Isn't he signed for like 8 years too?

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 4 @ 5:54 PM ET
Honestly, when was the last time anyone with Ovechkin's status was traded?

Kovalchuk to the Devils in '10?

- Sabre_Tooth


MAYBE Seguin by the Bruins comes close.
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