So Hextall's philosophy about developing players and the amount of space on a roster have nothing to do with whether their soon to be top prospect will make the team? - Baxter27
I think you're misrepresenting Hextall's philosophy on developing players. He's often said if a young player is ready for the NHL, they will make the team. That was proven last year when he kept both Konecny and Provorov on the team as 19 year olds. He's also made other statements recently such as they have young players, and they're coming! He has also repeatedly said if room needs to be made to keep an NHL ready young player, he will do so. I don't think making room if needed is going to be that difficult. In my opinion where those players are in training camp is going to be the sole criteria on whether they make the team or not.
-Hextall is not shy about keeping players out of the NHL even if they're physically and mentality mature. He has stated many times he would rather overcook than undercook.
-Patrick lost over half of his last junior season. There are still many opportunities where valuable experience can be gained(including WJC). Hischier's AHL eligibility gives him more run way to prove he's ready and for Hextall to make the moves necessary to give him the right opportunity.
-There is a massive log jam of forwards. Hextall needs to resolve this or risks making some bad moves in the interest of asset management. It's easier said than done that he will make room once a player proves he belongs. - Baxter27
Sending Patrick back to juniors would be like a high school senior playing backyard football with middle school kids.
There is a reason he has remained the probably #1 pick for so long despite the injuries. He dominated the WHL as a 17 year old.
I think you're misrepresenting Hextall's philosophy on developing players. He's often said if a young player is ready for the NHL, they will make the team. That was proven last year when he kept both Konecny and Provorov on the team as 19 year olds. He's also made other statements recently such as they have young players, and they're coming! He has also repeatedly said if room needs to be made to keep an NHL ready young player, he will do so. I don't think making room if needed is going to be that difficult. - MJL
Hextall is very patient and careful when developing players. Just because you chose other quotes that he made about players who have already spent years in other pro leagues doesn't change that. Provorov and Konecny were not fresh 19 year olds when they made the team. They were both seasoned with World junior experience and coming off dominant CHL years. This is not the case with Patrick. There is more of a case for Hischier but I don't see him being hurt from more time in the AHL or CHL either.
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Plus his vision of the ice is set from the back end. There's more time and space inherently built into rushing the puck from the back.
His weaknesses on D are over played in my opinion. - mayorofangrytown
See, anyone who makes the point that Ghost couldn't be a good forward because he likely won't win a lot of board battles, I can get on board with. For those who say Ghost doesn't have the explosive speed we think he does, I'm on the fence. Kids like McDavid and Larkin may take Ghost to school. However, having the ability to turn around and catch up to a forward is impressive, which we've seen Gostisbehere do. So here I can agree to disagree until we've see a legitimate foot race with the fastest in the league. I can't speak to how good Ghost could be as a forchecker because defensemen don't forcheck.
With this said, I do think Ghost is that bad defensively. I don't agree with how long Hakstol has sat Ghost but sitting him twice in a season due to poor defensive play speaks volumes. Sorry.
Hextall is very patient and careful when developing players. Just because you chose other quotes that he made about players who have already spent years in other pro leagues doesn't change that. Provorov and Konecny were not fresh 19 year olds when they made the team. They were both seasoned with World junior experience and coming off dominant CHL years. This is not the case with Patrick. There is more of a case for Hischier but I don't see him being hurt from more time in the AHL or CHL either. - Baxter27
I'm taking into consideration all of Hextall's factors not just choosing quotes. He is patient in developing players but I think it is a misrepresentation to think that he wouldn't keep either player on the team if he thinks they're ready for the NHL. Patrick has had 3 season in the WHL. Unless there is a physical issue related to his injuries, if he is healthy from all I've read recently. I believe he will be in the NHL next season.
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May 3 @ 4:21 PM ET
better wheels than Couturier too, who we should trade now that we're getting one of two stellar players in the draft. - Doc_Sarcasm
No, he'll just finally be slotted where he belongs: 4C. He could be an elite 4C. PEB and Laughton and Vecchione are stiff competition though, and they can probably do what he does for cheaper. But if he shows he can be the best 5v5 forward on the entire team, I like his odds for that 4C job.
I'm taking into consideration all of Hextall's factors not just choosing quotes. He is patient in developing players but I think it is a misrepresentation to think that he wouldn't keep either player on the team if he thinks they're ready for the NHL. Patrick has had 3 season in the WHL. Unless there is a physical issue related to his injuries, if he is healthy from all I've read recently. I believe he will be in the NHL next season. - MJL
If you don't think either of those kids would come into camp and look far better than majority of our NHL forwards you should take a step back and rethink it. Chances are whoever we pick at #2 will come to camp and make his presence felt and make the team.
If you don't think either of those kids would come into camp and look far better than majority of our NHL forwards you should take a step back and rethink it. Chances are whoever we pick at #2 will come to camp and make his presence felt and make the team. - ClaudeFather
There is a difference between raw talent and where players are in terms of an NHL player in a lot of cases. What is best for the player and whether a young player is ready for the NHL is the determining factor.
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(((Corey Pronman)))Verified account @coreypronman 6m6 minutes ago
I would not feel comfortable at all presuming Nolan/Nico will be top 2 players in this class and/or be top 2 players selected.
There is a difference between raw talent and where players are in terms of an NHL player in a lot of cases. What is best for the player and whether a young player is ready for the NHL is the determining factor. - MJL
Neither of those kids are small and both are dominant at lower levels. I understand what you're saying but this is the #2 overall pick, really good chance he makes the team.
