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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
Hello
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:00 PM ET
Hello
- mayorofangrytown



Greetings
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 3 @ 1:01 PM ET
And on top of that, I don't see him as a particularly good forechecker either. Nor do I see him winning his share of battles in the corners after he does get in on the puck.

Ghosts game is about space and time. When he has it he is deadly, when he doesn't, not so much.

- MBFlyerfan

Plus his vision of the ice is set from the back end. There's more time and space inherently built into rushing the puck from the back.

His weaknesses on D are over played in my opinion.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:03 PM ET
Plus his vision of the ice is set from the back end. There's more time and space inherently built into rushing the puck from the back.

His weaknesses on D are over played in my opinion.

- mayorofangrytown


Agreed. He will never be Ray Bourque, but I also don't think he is Paul Coffey. His defensive game will always be about positioning and moving the puck quickly. If he gets stuck in the corner with someone or muscling some guy in front of the net we just need to hope for the best.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
When I think about some of our young defensemen, what springs to mind, who would I trade first once all the kids are up. First name to is Shayne Gostisbehere. I don't want to trade him but I think he's the weakest of the bunch. Not very big, not very strong and very weak in his own end overall. However, do any of you think he could transition from defense to wing. His speed used for forechecking and offensive skill, I wonder if Ghost could make the leap or we simply trade for him down the road for a national forward.
- SuperSchennBros


I will agree with being open to trading him when I see at least one of Sanheim/Myers being able to do most of what he does offensively and being superior defensively.

I don't think either one of them will ever be as dynamic as he is, as he has to walk the line aggressively to be effective, but I see Sanheim and Myers as just being more traditional point producing defenders.

As for converting him to forward, no thanks.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:05 PM ET
I will agree with being open to trading him when I see at least one of Sanheim/Myers being able to do most of what he does offensively and being superior defensively.

I don't think either one of them will ever be as dynamic as he is, as he has to walk the line aggressively to be effective, but I see Sanheim and Myers as just being more traditional point producing defenders.

As for converting him to forward, no thanks.

- jmatchett383


As I've said before, when it all shakes out, ideally he will be a third pair guy who is also getting good minutes on the PP.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

May 3 @ 1:05 PM ET
He also mentioned that the Flyers had a lot of bad luck this past season.

I also hope he is just being coy. Hopefully just playing dumb as well.

- StepfordSam


I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. He was just making a comment to the media about the stroke of good luck that brought the #2 pick. The team didn't exactly have good luck this season but it's no excuse. Other comments Hextall has made tell me he doesn't view it as one either.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

May 3 @ 1:10 PM ET
I personally am excited for the "I personally wouldn't sign him for that much" discussion about Ghost in 2 years (Brayden Schenn anyone?)
- YuenglingJagr


We should've signed Simmonds to a bridge deal
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 3 @ 1:12 PM ET
When I think about some of our young defensemen, what springs to mind, who would I trade first once all the kids are up. First name to is Shayne Gostisbehere. I don't want to trade him but I think he's the weakest of the bunch. Not very big, not very strong and very weak in his own end overall. However, do any of you think he could transition from defense to wing. His speed used for forechecking and offensive skill, I wonder if Ghost could make the leap or we simply trade for him down the road for a national forward.
- SuperSchennBros


Someone here does.

I don't.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:14 PM ET
I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. He was just making a comment to the media about the stroke of good luck that brought the #2 pick. The team didn't exactly have good luck this season but it's no excuse. Other comments Hextall has made tell me he doesn't view it as one either.
- Baxter27



Arizona comes in and says:

Dylan Strome and #7 for Amac and #2 I might think about it.......
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 1:16 PM ET
Arizona comes in and says:

Dylan Strome and #7 for Amac and #2 I might think about it.......

- MBFlyerfan


With that cheesy stache? No thank you sir.

Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 3 @ 1:17 PM ET
I don't think it's anything to be concerned about. He was just making a comment to the media about the stroke of good luck that brought the #2 pick. The team didn't exactly have good luck this season but it's no excuse. Other comments Hextall has made tell me he doesn't view it as one either.
- Baxter27



Literally everything the Flyers say, don't say, imply, don't imply, do or don't do is cause for the most intense scrutiny, frenetic handwringing, and accusations of sheer incompetence. In case you hadnt noticed... thats what we do here.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Arizona comes in and says:

Dylan Strome and #7 for Amac and #2 I might think about it.......

- MBFlyerfan

The Flyers should not use their future franchise center as a bargaining chip to rid themselves of Andrew MacDonald, or anyone for that matter. This is (barring a significant injury to one or more of their best players during the season) their one and only chance to get someone like this
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 3 @ 1:18 PM ET
Arizona comes in and says:

Dylan Strome and #7 for Amac and #2 I might think about it.......

- MBFlyerfan



Throw in Giroux, Simmonds, and Voracek and I think its a fair deal.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 3 @ 1:21 PM ET
The Flyers should not use their future franchise center as a bargaining chip to rid themselves of Andrew MacDonald, or anyone for that matter. This is (barring a significant injury to one or more of their best players during the season) their one and only chance to get someone like this
- YuenglingJagr

Agreed. The trade proposals are pretty silly.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 3 @ 1:27 PM ET
Literally everything the Flyers say, don't say, imply, don't imply, do or don't do is cause for the most intense scrutiny, frenetic handwringing, and accusations of sheer incompetence. In case you hadnt noticed... thats what we do here.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Scrutiny implies careful, thoughtful examination, so, no. The other two, absolutely. lol
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
Scrutiny implies careful, thoughtful examination, so, no. The other two, absolutely. lol
- Scoob



Ok.. FINE!


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
With that cheesy stache? No thank you sir.


- jmatchett383




Yeah, wtf is that abomination?!

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:30 PM ET
The Flyers should not use their future franchise center as a bargaining chip to rid themselves of Andrew MacDonald, or anyone for that matter. This is (barring a significant injury to one or more of their best players during the season) their one and only chance to get someone like this
- YuenglingJagr



maybe I should have put two or three MORE
emojis?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 3 @ 1:31 PM ET
Ok.. FINE!



- Doc_Sarcasm


Yes, lots of anger, too. lol

And probably name-calling.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
maybe I should have put two or three MORE
emojis?

- MBFlyerfan

I almost did say not speaking directly to you.

Anyway, I just felt like saying it because I have seen it mentioned (seriously) multiple times
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 3 @ 1:33 PM ET
So far, here are my Conn Smythe favorites for each of the remaining teams:

Pittsburgh - Jake Guentzel. I would have said Crosby, but if he's out long term, it's gotta be Guentzel. Malkin is close. Fleury has been too inconsistent to get closer than 3rd.

Washington - Nicklas Backstrom. He's the guy that everything runs through. Holtby had a less than spectacular first round, and OV hasn't been lighting the world on fire. (frank) Shattenkirk.

NY Rangers - Brady Skjei. I still pronounced his last name as "Ski-jay" because this is America, dammit! I don't think anyone has stood out offensively for them (Zuccs maybe), the defense overall has been meh, and Henrik hasn't been his old self.

Ottawa - Craig Anderson. Bobby Ryan and EK have been good, but Anderson has been pretty solid before last night.

Edmonton - Cam Talbot. No one has really stood out consistently, even McDavid and Draisaitl, despite them winning. So it goes to Talbot, for now.

Anaheim - Ryan Getzlaf. Dude is, to me, a stronger version of what Toews was a few years back. Has taken charge on Anaheim. Gibson got considerations as well, as did Silfverberg.

Nashivlle - Ryan Ellis. This was REALLY close, as Rinne is 100% deserving. Right now, they'd be my top 2 picks leagie-wide. Rinne has been playing like the man who signed his extension, but Ellis has excelled at everything this postseason. Forsberg and Josi are in there, too.

St. Louis - Joel Edmundson. Never ever heard of him before, but he's having a heck of a playoffs. Another team where I don't think there's a clear-cut #1, but he's the most deserving. Jake Allen as a 2nd.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 3 @ 1:33 PM ET
I almost did say not speaking directly to you.

Anyway, I just felt like saying it because I have seen it mentioned (seriously) multiple times

- YuenglingJagr



I agree. They cant blow this unexpected windfall.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
The only trade I want the Flyers to even consider come draft day is trading to get an additional 1st between the late teens mid twenties if someone they like falls. What do we have 9 or 10 other picks aside from the 2nd overall? It's really a game changer.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
I like what Schenn brings to the table a lot more than Ghost. I'm not even considering moving Schenn right now, while I would consider moving Ghost the second the kids on the back end are all regulars. Schenn played three less games than Giroux, with three less points.
- SuperSchennBros


Ghost played six less games than Provorov, but scored nine more points.
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