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So Yeo enters the game talking about how this would be a street fight. In game interview he talks about it being a street fight. Then, when a street fight breaks out and he and his guys get their butts whipped, he complains about the refs. Yeo needs to look inward.....there's a good reason why he's coaching his second team this year.
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Hockeytown4life
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Location: The Captain is Home!!, TN Joined: 08.14.2009
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Score more than 2 goals in 2 games on the road in the playoffs, and you won't have to resort to blaming the refs for everything. |
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Antilles
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Why is it when you point out how bad the officiating is, the village idiots feel the need to point out it's not impossible to win against bad officiating? That's irrelevant. You shouldn't have to beat the officials too. |
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Why is it when you point out how bad the officiating is, the village idiots feel the need to point out it's not impossible to win against bad officiating? That's irrelevant. You shouldn't have to beat the officials too. - Antilles
Are you triggered bro? |
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Antilles
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So Yeo enters the game talking about how this would be a street fight. In game interview he talks about it being a street fight. Then, when a street fight breaks out and he and his guys get their butts whipped, he complains about the refs. Yeo needs to look inward.....there's a good reason why he's coaching his second team this year. - RonMexico333
So... in your mind, the guy hired in June by Blues, and fired by Wild 15 months ago, is coaching his second team this year? |
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So... in your mind, the guy hired in June by Blues, and fired by Wild 15 months ago, is coaching his second team this year? - Antilles
Thanks for the correction, still doesn't make him a coach who can win in the playoffs |
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holycow_75
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 01.26.2012
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The officiating has been pretty bad in this series overall. Lots of missed calls, bad calls & "let 'em play." But I don't see where it's been completely one-sided. Not sure how the Preds got a PP out of the 3rd Period scrum last night, but apparently, one of the refs saw something I didn't. After the Preds scored, then Subban gets a stick-check to the head and loses his helmet. They call coincidental minors - tagging Subban with embellishment? Huh? That's a terrible call. The league needs to do something about this - it happens way too often.
St. Louis has been on the short end of a few calls. But in Game 2, the Predators didn't get a single PP, even when controlling the game, being faster, and playing mostly in their offensive zone for the majority of the game. That's ridiculous. There have been a number of calls that either team could justifiably chirp about.
At the end of the day, the PP Opportunities are 10-9 Nashville for the series. But the PP minutes are 18-16 Blues. So, it doesn't seem terribly lopsided to me. One area where I think the Preds have adjusted to the "playoff rules" better than Chicago or St. Louis is interference. They just don't call it much in the post-season, and the Preds have taken advantage of that on multiple occasions. That could be coaching - I don't know. Adjusting to the officiating is part of the game. |
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pred_26
Nashville Predators |
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Location: Chattanooga, TN Joined: 12.31.2014
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Score more than 2 goals in 2 games on the road in the playoffs, and you won't have to resort to blaming the refs for everything. - Hockeytown4life
So true, there are some salty blues fans.. |
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Antilles
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So true, there are some salty blues fans.. - pred_26
Fans? Literally every coach, player, and person in the media was talking about how the game was decided by an absolutely horrendous call last night. |
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Predman29
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Location: Mt. Juliet, TN Joined: 07.19.2006
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Refs absolutely bending the Blues over this game. Even the (N)ashville (B)roadcasting (C)hannel is admitting the refs are screwing over one team. Guess it pays to have Carrie Underwood female dog to the media. - Antilles
Blues vs #Preds series penalties:
PP opportunities: NSH 10 STL 9
Total Time on PP: NSH 16:29
STL 18:21
Hope all is well with the potential flooding up there. |
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bcallaway
St Louis Blues |
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Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh? Joined: 03.29.2006
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Score more than 2 goals in 2 games on the road in the playoffs, and you won't have to resort to blaming the refs for everything. - Hockeytown4life
Right on. Officiating in this league is bad and has no hope of getting better. Everyone has to live with it. It's not slanted toward or against any one team, it's systematically bad all the time.
Joel Edmundson has as many goals as Vladimir Tarasenko.
Berglund and Perron playing on what's supposed to be a second line have been invisible offensively. Schwartz, Stastny and on and on, not getting it done.
Allen's been good enough. Not stand-on-his-head good, but good enough. Blues aren't scoring enough to win.
Preds are just better. It's not over yet, but 3-1 is a tall deficit.
If Nashville wins this series I have no issue tipping my cap to them as the better team and I'll root for them going forward.
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Jackman
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Blues vs #Preds series penalties:
PP opportunities: NSH 10 STL 9
Total Time on PP: NSH 16:29
STL 18:21
Hope all is well with the potential flooding up there. - Predman29
They've been lopsided in each game however. Much like the Blues shouldn't have held a 4-0 edge in game two, the Preds shouldn't have received as many more as they have in 3 different games which has a much larger impact on the series.
Regarding Subban (commented on by somebody else), he clearly embellished the hit. If he didn't embellish the hit and was truly rolling around in that much pain from a shot to the head, then a great disservice was done to him to allow him to remain in the game instead of going to the quiet room.
Austin Watson made his presence felt with several big hits (and a couple shot blocks). I hope he gets burned Friday at least once for the many occasions he leaves his feet to deliver a hit (and i hope the Blues convert for a change).
Love reading Paul's article on here today. female doging about the Blues female doging about the refs when he himself dedicated the majority of his article to doing so after game 2. Also states Yeo blamed the officials solely and took no blame, but in his press conference stated the Blues should've killed the penalty. |
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holycow_75
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Location: Nashville, TN Joined: 01.26.2012
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They've been lopsided in each game however. Much like the Blues shouldn't have held a 4-0 edge in game two, the Preds shouldn't have received as many more as they have in 3 different games which has a much larger impact on the series.
Regarding Subban (commented on by somebody else), he clearly embellished the hit. If he didn't embellish the hit and was truly rolling around in that much pain from a shot to the head, then a great disservice was done to him to allow him to remain in the game instead of going to the quiet room.
- Jackman
Good grief. I didn't see Subban writing in pain. I saw him cover up his head because his helmet got knocked off and he was on the ice. I don't know about you, but if I'm laying down without a helmet, and surrounded by sticks, skates & 200lb. men, I would probably cover my head too.
The embellishment call is to be used when an actual penalty wasn't committed, but a player is being unsportsmanlike by trying to make it look like a penalty occurred. A penalty clearly occurred in this instance. A stick-check to the head, knocking off the helmet. If Subban covered his head, or was over-dramatic falling to the ice, that is not embellishment. Based on the rule, it has to be one or the other.
Go on and whine about the officiating all you want. I agree it's been bad. But if you look across the history of the league, the team that forces the play and leads in puck possession and offensive chances almost always draws more penalties. In any game - regular season or playoffs. The Blues have not driven the play for much of this series at all. So it should come as no surprise that the Preds have drawn more penalties.
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bluenote31
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Location: St. Louis Joined: 09.25.2006
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Right on. Officiating in this league is bad and has no hope of getting better. Everyone has to live with it. It's not slanted toward or against any one team, it's systematically bad all the time.
Joel Edmundson has as many goals as Vladimir Tarasenko.
Berglund and Perron playing on what's supposed to be a second line have been invisible offensively. Schwartz, Stastny and on and on, not getting it done.
Allen's been good enough. Not stand-on-his-head good, but good enough. Blues aren't scoring enough to win.
Preds are just better. It's not over yet, but 3-1 is a tall deficit.
If Nashville wins this series I have no issue tipping my cap to them as the better team and I'll root for them going forward. - bcallaway
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lastmanback
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Location: Catawissa, MO Joined: 03.07.2008
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Right on. Officiating in this league is bad and has no hope of getting better. Everyone has to live with it. It's not slanted toward or against any one team, it's systematically bad all the time.
Joel Edmundson has as many goals as Vladimir Tarasenko.
Berglund and Perron playing on what's supposed to be a second line have been invisible offensively. Schwartz, Stastny and on and on, not getting it done.
Allen's been good enough. Not stand-on-his-head good, but good enough. Blues aren't scoring enough to win.
Preds are just better. It's not over yet, but 3-1 is a tall deficit.
If Nashville wins this series I have no issue tipping my cap to them as the better team and I'll root for them going forward. - bcallaway
You sir, are spot on.
If the Blues could score a powerplay goal, all the carping would be moot.
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PredChef
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Location: Hermitage, TN Joined: 02.10.2007
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Regarding Subban (commented on by somebody else), he clearly embellished the hit. If he didn't embellish the hit and was truly rolling around in that much pain from a shot to the head, then a great disservice was done to him to allow him to remain in the game instead of going to the quiet room.
He actually left the game for a few minutes and returned to take his spot in the box just over midway thru the 4 on 4.
So if he embelished he took it all the way ro the locker room. Thats what an allstar does. Goes the extra mile.
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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The supervisor for officiating in the series refused to comment.
The game recaps on NHL.com make no mention of the call, or the comments made afterwards by Coach/Players.
This is why the NHL is bush league. It's not just that they won't admit when a bad call is made, they actively censor any mention of controversial calls. Just look at the difference in the articles between Korac's personal blog, and the one he was able to put up on NHL.com. The NHL is actively trying to bury any mention of an officiating problem. - Antilles
Just like on-ice officials, they are not allowed to comment to the media, so take that for what it is worth, rather than some misconstrued action on their part. |
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Fans? Literally every coach, player, and person in the media was talking about how the game was decided by an absolutely horrendous call last night. - Antilles
Every?
Hardly. And not even close. |
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Jackman
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Good grief. I didn't see Subban writing in pain. I saw him cover up his head because his helmet got knocked off and he was on the ice. I don't know about you, but if I'm laying down without a helmet, and surrounded by sticks, skates & 200lb. men, I would probably cover my head too.
The embellishment call is to be used when an actual penalty wasn't committed, but a player is being unsportsmanlike by trying to make it look like a penalty occurred. A penalty clearly occurred in this instance. A stick-check to the head, knocking off the helmet. If Subban covered his head, or was over-dramatic falling to the ice, that is not embellishment. Based on the rule, it has to be one or the other.
Go on and whine about the officiating all you want. I agree it's been bad. But if you look across the history of the league, the team that forces the play and leads in puck possession and offensive chances almost always draws more penalties. In any game - regular season or playoffs. The Blues have not driven the play for much of this series at all. So it should come as no surprise that the Preds have drawn more penalties. - holycow_75
https://twitter.com/cjzer...status/859618707559108608
Game 1, Blues were pretty dominant 5 on 5 and gave up 3 pp vs 1.
There's a chance to watch again. He's rolling around the ice holding his head. Edmunson made minimal contact with the head, if anything it was more of a shove with his forearm/elbow.
Regarding the other response, being "in the locker room" for 30 seconds is clearly sufficient time for such a bad blow to the head.
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Jackman
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The embellishment call is to be used when an actual penalty wasn't committed, but a player is being unsportsmanlike by trying to make it look like a penalty occurred. A penalty clearly occurred in this instance. A stick-check to the head, knocking off the helmet. If Subban covered his head, or was over-dramatic falling to the ice, that is not embellishment. Based on the rule, it has to be one or the other. - holycow_75
Also regarding this, at least 90% of the time embellishment is it is when another penalty is called. How many hooks/embellishments get called each season? This series alone, Berglund got interference and Ellis got embellishment.
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pred_26
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Location: Chattanooga, TN Joined: 12.31.2014
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Still Salty?? NO then let this guy help
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Trust In Jarmo
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Location: The Columbus Blue Jackets are next in line... Joined: 07.16.2009
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Every team that has made the Stanley Cup finals since 2010 out of the West has been eliminated before the playoffs or by some other team in the playoffs.
Yet, you guys still mess it up as the favorites out of the west prior to round 2.
About to be 51 years and counting...
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sycsam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.26.2008
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Time to start outworking Nashville
One Shift at a time
One Period at a Time
One Game at time
So sick and tired of the excuses from the fans players coaches and organization
Sick and tired of coming up short
Lets go |
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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues |
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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So Wilson slashes and breaks Steen's stick leading to control and dangerous possession but that's not a call. Of course Steen ends up blocking a shot with his leg when he already has a lower body injury on the ensuing sequence that never should have happened if the appropriate penalty is killed. Murphy's law.
Blues like all good teams need to win regardless of officiating. No excuses. - Jason Millen
True but you know it got to them. I mean a huge scrum started by a Preds player and the Preds end up on the pp? Watson leaves his feet to hit JayBo high and nothing. Second obvious intent to injure hit by Nashville on top defenders. I am glad someone had some balls to go for one of theirs especially Subban, who does not check, goes for the head and uses his forearm which I fairly certain was never anything I learned as an acceptable hockey play.
So I am sorry the officiating is garbage. Beyond garbage.
Sorry but the Blues remain a bunch of manginas. I thought with Yeo maybe it was looking up and this team would learn you have to get dirty even at the expense of a game to injure and send a message. Nice guys finish second.
It happens every now and then a magificient come back. But employing Reaves makes it unlikely. Anything less than employing four scoring lines has been a waste after game four. Just got to hit and create. except game four the Blues have been whiskers away from ot.
Nashville probably wins thanks to NBCHL.
Wasn't just the officials, Rinne was huge and kept them in the game long enough for them to catch breaks. |
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BluemanGuruu
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Time to start outworking Nashville
One Shift at a time
One Period at a Time
One Game at time
So sick and tired of the excuses from the fans players coaches and organization
Sick and tired of coming up short
Lets go - sycsam
Excuses suck, but geesh. Really need this team not to feel sorry for themselves when it isn't going their way. |
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