3 yrs at 4 mil per

Just my hopeful guess. That gets him past Povorov's new deal.
- mayorofangrytown

I was actually thinking 4 years at 3.75 - 4 million range. Nice deal for a guy that might slowly be pushed down the d pairings as prospects enter the lineup.

I made the comment in yesterdays blog that 6 of the 15 active 1st overall picks are in our division. Soon to be 7 of 16. And 11 of 16 in our conference. The east is ridiculous.

Detroit might beg to go back west soon.
- youarewrong

who are the 11? are you counting Kovalchuk as active?

Ohh even better.... Crosby retires due to injury and Ovechkin wins the cup and jumps ship to finish career in Russia. Patrick and Hischier become the new Crosby vs Ovechkin.....
- youarewrong

That would be pretty hilarious to see Washington trade for Kovulchuk's rights if they get knocked out by the Penguins, only to see Ovechkin bolt for the KHL.

I now think a heated rivalry with Toronto is going to be a must see in the next couple years.

3 yrs at 4 mil per

Just my hopeful guess. That gets him past Povorov's new deal.
- mayorofangrytown

I believe 3 years would take him to UFA status because he turned 24 last month.

http://www.wingingitinmot...cba-episode-3-free-agency

Group 3 (Unrestricted) Free Agents

The easiest-to-define class. If you've accrued 7 seasons (with the same definitions as laid out about how 18 and 19-year olds accrue differently), you're a UFA. If you haven't accrued those 7 seasons by the time you hit age 27, you get to be a UFA anyway.

The birthday issue is a little funny here, in that everywhere else, the date that matters is either September 15 or December 31. Here it's June 30. You could technically have a guy miss out on becoming a UFA because he doesn't turn 27 until July 2nd.

So it would have to be a 2 year bridge - maybe at $3.5m. Then he signs his big deal at age 26.

7 years would carry some risk for the Flyers, but it would also make no sense for Ghost so sign for that long for less than $4.5m AAV. If he turns into a regular 50+ point dman he could be looking at nearly double that in a few years.

Dmen who put up points always get good money. Just being consistently in the 20-35 range got Demers 5 years at $4.5m.
- Feanor

I get that but for me I see his even strength minutes going down as more prospects enter the lineup. He'll always get his PP time. I just see less at ES when guys like Sanheim, Hagg, Morin, and Myers are here and you add that to Provorov.

Bill, please tell me that there is no chance that the Flyers are going to overthink this thing. I have this feeling of dread that there's some 6'9" project out there that they have their eye on.
- Dkos

That reminds me, hopefully Morin makes the Flyers out of training camp this year.

I wonder if TB regrets taking Drouin over Seth Jones

I was actually thinking 4 years at 3.75 - 4 million range. Nice deal for a guy that might slowly be pushed down the d pairings as prospects enter the lineup.
- J35Bacher

He was used on the third pairing at ES this season. I think he will actually be moving up the lineup in the short term.

I believe 3 years would take him to UFA status because he turned 24 last month.

http://www.wingingitinmot...cba-episode-3-free-agency



So it would have to be a 2 year bridge - maybe at $3.5m. Then he signs his big deal at age 26.
- Feanor

Look at some of these deals. For some reason I would be bothered if we paid Gostisbehere more.

Roman Josi - 7 years at 4 million
Mattias Ekholm - 7 years at 3.75 million
Jake Muzzin - 5 years at 4 million
Connor Murphy - 6 years at 3.85 million
Ryan Ellis - 5 years at 2.50 million

But it's not my money

He was used on the third pairing at ES this season. I think he will actually be moving up the lineup in the short term.
- Feanor

You think?

I figured the top 4 would probably be some combination of Provorov, MacDonald, Gudas, Morin, Hagg.

Insert Generic Whine About Not Getting A Generational Talent at #2 Here.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Man I hope not. This is a time to be happy. From all I've read (bc I haven't seen either play), I'd like to have Patrick, but by no means be upset with Hischier.

You think?

I figured the top 4 would probably be some combination of Provorov, MacDonald, Gudas, Morin, Hagg.
- J35Bacher

Morin and Hagg aren't even locks to make the team.

You think?

I figured the top 4 would probably be some combination of Provorov, MacDonald, Gudas, Morin, Hagg.
- J35Bacher

When it all shakes out Ghost will be a third pair/first PP dman.

There is nothing wrong with that.

Look at some of these deals. For some reason I would be bothered if we paid Gostisbehere more.

Roman Josi - 7 years at 4 million
Mattias Ekholm - 7 years at 3.75 million
Jake Muzzin - 5 years at 4 million
Connor Murphy - 6 years at 3.85 million
Ryan Ellis - 5 years at 2.50 million

But it's not my money
- J35Bacher

I'd put Ghost between Josi and Murphy....3.95M at 6.5 years.

When it all shakes out Ghost will be a third pair/first PP dman.

There is nothing wrong with that.
- MBFlyerfan

Didn't say there was.

Didn't say there was.
- J35Bacher

Didnt say you did.

Look at some of these deals. For some reason I would be bothered if we paid Gostisbehere more.

Roman Josi - 7 years at 4 million
Mattias Ekholm - 7 years at 3.75 million
Jake Muzzin - 5 years at 4 million
Connor Murphy - 6 years at 3.85 million
Ryan Ellis - 5 years at 2.50 million

But it's not my money
- J35Bacher

You get deals like that by signing guys long term after their ELC

What would Josi be getting now if they gave him a bridge deal?

Morin and Hagg aren't even locks to make the team.
- Feanor

They aren't but someone is going to have to as there's only Provorov, Gudas, Gostisbehere, Manning and MacDonald and Hextall has said he won't be looking at a UFA Dman.

As an aside, we still need a #1 goalie. I just mention it in passing.

Look at some of these deals. For some reason I would be bothered if we paid Gostisbehere more.

Roman Josi - 7 years at 4 million
Mattias Ekholm - 7 years at 3.75 million
Jake Muzzin - 5 years at 4 million
Connor Murphy - 6 years at 3.85 million
Ryan Ellis - 5 years at 2.50 million

But it's not my money
- J35Bacher

Josi was signed when his career high points in a season was 18 in 48 games.

Ekholm was signed when his career high points in a season was 18.

Muzzin was signed when his career high points in a season was 24.

Murphy was signed when his career high points in a season was 17.

Ellis was signed when his career high points in a season was 27.

Ghost has already had 46 and 39 point seasons.

You get deals like that by signing guys long term after their ELC

What would Josi be getting now if they gave him a bridge deal?
- YuenglingJagr

I am thinking something like 5 years 3.75 million would be a solid deal. Get some long term certainty and its a reasonable raise.

The guys I mentioned also all play top 4 minutes.

Josi was signed when his career high points in a season was 18 in 48 games.

Ekholm was signed when his career high points in a season was 18.

Muzzin was signed when his career high points in a season was 24.

Murphy was signed when his career high points in a season was 17.

Ellis was signed when his career high points in a season was 27.

Ghost has already had 46 and 39 point seasons.
- Feanor

Yes. but it's not all about points.

I am thinking something like 5 years 3.75 million would be a solid deal. Get some long term certainty and its a reasonable raise.

The guys I mentioned also all play top 4 minutes.
- J35Bacher

Ekholm and Ellis weren't playing top 4 minutes when they were signed.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...,&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

Yes. but it's not all about points.
- J35Bacher

It is when you mention Ghost

It is when you mention Ghost
- dragonoffrost

Points are important for any player in the league when it comes to contract negotiations.

The 32 points MDZ scored in 64 games in 14-15 got him two years at $3.875m AAV from Hextall.

I believe 3 years would take him to UFA status because he turned 24 last month.

http://www.wingingitinmot...cba-episode-3-free-agency



So it would have to be a 2 year bridge - maybe at $3.5m. Then he signs his big deal at age 26.
- Feanor

If they sign him to three yrs that eats up his RFA yrs, I know. But it gives the team two yrs to see what he's actually going to be then they can sign him to his UFA deal a yr before he becomes a UFA.

Just my thoughts. It's what I'd push for if I was GM. 12mil is a lot for the kid to turn down.

I can't say I honestly have a grip on D salaries right now.