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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Law of averages says we are going to get lucky sometime
- classic321

Maybe... Although it hasn't happened yet in any Canuck fans lifetime
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
Like we couldn't use two of them.
- bloatedmosquito

I meant to play together
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
Law of averages says we are going to get lucky sometime
- classic321

2036 is the year








I can feel it
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 1 @ 3:23 PM ET
Same people are now acting like OJ just dominated the OHL this year. There's young dmen putting up similar numbers in the AHL this year and/or last year that haven't cracked NHL rosters yet.


Let's wait and see before anointing this kid as NHL-ready and trading out players to gift him a roster spot.

- Nucker101



Olli arguably wasn't even the best d-man on London this year. So I hope he gets sent back

How many prospects can legitimately say they out-grew junior

Ehlers
McDavid
Provorov
Marner

Heck Drouin & Strome got sent back after putting up well over 2 PPG average

always take advantage of Junior eligibility will you can

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:27 PM ET
I meant to play together
- NorthNuck


Oh . I don't know what the (frank) is going on anymore.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm always fascinated to see how draft prospect hype works.

Like Glass has all of a sudden become a top 5 pick for a lot of people, but about 45-60 days ago, he was only top 10 on some lists despite pretty steady production all year long.

Makar and Mittlestadt hype was high during the last month or 2, but has settled down since the rise of Glass and Heiskanen. Not that they're falling in rankings, they're just getting a bit less attention than Glass now.

Heiskanen's rise in hype I do understand after the tournament he just had, but the rest is all very interesting to follow.

Glass went from someone who I thought was underrated 2 months ago to now seeing a lot of people/rankings have him higher than I do. Someone posts a chart comparing him and Johansen along with a quote from his coach who compared and the 2 and voilà!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 1 @ 3:28 PM ET
Oh . I don't know what the (frank) is going on anymore.


- bloatedmosquito

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
I'm always fascinated to see how draft prospect hype works.

Like Glass has all of a sudden become a top 5 pick for a lot of people, but about 45-60 days ago, he was only top 10 on some lists despite pretty steady production all year long.

Makar and Mittlestadt hype was high during the last month or 2, but has settled down since the rise of Glass and Heiskanen. Not that they're falling in rankings, they're just getting a bit less attention than Glass now.

Heiskanen's rise in hype I do understand after the tournament he just had, but the rest is all very interesting to follow.

Glass went from someone who I thought was underrated 2 months ago to now seeing a lot of people/rankings have him higher than I do.

- Nucker101

That's why even in a bad year like this one I never read into prospect profiles much until around now, when draft order is determined and the season is wrapping up. Seems like a waste of time to me considering how much movement there can be even among the top picks
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
Olli arguably wasn't even the best d-man on London this year. So I hope he gets sent back

How many prospects can legitimately say they out-grew junior

Ehlers
McDavid
Provorov
Marner

Heck Drouin & Strome got sent back after putting up well over 2 PPG average

always take advantage of Junior eligibility will you can

- classic321

YES
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
That's why even in a bad year like this one I never read into prospect profiles much until around now, when draft order is determined and the season is wrapping up. Seems like a waste of time to me considering how much movement there can be even among the top picks
- NorthNuck


If you draft for need your list is probably more consistent throughout the year. But if you are looking for BPA then, for this draft anyway, your list will be constantly changing.

The canucks are in the drivers seat in rounds 2 to 7 so I think they can really fine tune their list for their specific needs.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

May 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
I'm always fascinated to see how draft prospect hype works.

Like Glass has all of a sudden become a top 5 pick for a lot of people, but about 45-60 days ago, he was only top 10 on some lists despite pretty steady production all year long.

Makar and Mittlestadt hype was high during the last month or 2, but has settled down since the rise of Glass and Heiskanen. Not that they're falling in rankings, they're just getting a bit less attention than Glass now.

Heiskanen's rise in hype I do understand after the tournament he just had, but the rest is all very interesting to follow.

Glass went from someone who I thought was underrated 2 months ago to now seeing a lot of people/rankings have him higher than I do. Someone posts a chart comparing him and Johansen along with a quote from his coach who compared and the 2 and voilà!

- Nucker101


Just curious what do you think is behind the hype and change in rankings?

Are mock draft sites and pundits like Button , who does watch the players live, looking for hits on their posted lists? Are they just changing things up to garner interest?

Granted this draft has a lot of interchangeable parts from 3-20. So...?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'm always fascinated to see how draft prospect hype works.

Like Glass has all of a sudden become a top 5 pick for a lot of people, but about 45-60 days ago, he was only top 10 on some lists despite pretty steady production all year long.

Makar and Mittlestadt hype was high during the last month or 2, but has settled down since the rise of Glass and Heiskanen. Not that they're falling in rankings, they're just getting a bit less attention than Glass now.

Heiskanen's rise in hype I do understand after the tournament he just had, but the rest is all very interesting to follow.

Glass went from someone who I thought was underrated 2 months ago to now seeing a lot of people/rankings have him higher than I do. Someone posts a chart comparing him and Johansen along with a quote from his coach who compared and the 2 and voilà!

- Nucker101


FFS! All this guesswork that's going to continue for the next 2 months is hilarious.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 1 @ 3:40 PM ET
Funny thing is some people are still penciling in OJ/Dahlen next year as if the NHL roster spots are theirs to lose. No, they should earn it and show that they're physically and mentally mature enough to handle a 82 game season.

I know everyone's sick of the fringe boring NHL vets, but rushing shiny new toys has already cost this team once before, so why do it again? Canucks are going to suck next year no matter what anyway.

- Nucker101


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:41 PM ET
The Canucks have selected four players fourth overall in franchise history:

Jere Gillis (1977)
Bill Derlago (1978)
Jim Sandlak (1985)
Bryan Allen (1998).

That's a combined 1,034 games and 391 points for the canucks.

Sweet.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:44 PM ET
FFS! All this guesswork that's going to continue for the next 2 months is hilarious.
- VanHockeyGuy


What else is there to do on here?

Can't make each other cry anymore so might as well give in. Like a big ole herd.

Moo.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 1 @ 3:45 PM ET
Just curious what do you think is behind the hype and change in rankings?

Are mock draft sites and pundits like Button , who does watch the players live, looking for hits on their posted lists? Are they just changing things up to garner interest?

Granted this draft has a lot of interchangeable parts from 3-20. So...?

- Nuck4U

Button hasn't posted a list in awhile, I think people just get excited when they see quotes from coaches/scouts bunched together with some impressive stats, which I understand.

I mean it's obviously intriguing when Glass compares as a better prospect than Ryan Johansen stat-wise coupled with the fact that his own coach compares him to Johansen(he's coached them both). I just find it interesting that so many NHL fans were unaware of how good he was up until this recent hype surge. Just goes to show how much most NHL fans rely on popular lists/analysts to tell them how they should feel about prospects.

I feel like in the NFL/NBA(NCAA being the only league to follow helps), there's more fans who are critical of the "experts" and analysts rather than NHL fans looking at Bob MacKenzie's list like:

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 3:47 PM ET
FFS! All this guesswork that's going to continue for the next 2 months is hilarious.
- VanHockeyGuy
















TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

May 1 @ 3:48 PM ET
Draft the guy that's good.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
Draft the guy that's good.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


They can't seem to no matter how hard they try.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 1 @ 3:51 PM ET













- A_SteamingLombardi


What are these girls fishing for?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 3:51 PM ET
Draft the guy that's good.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Thanks Francesco
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

May 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
Yep, we've got a long way to go till the draft.

So I'm creating a diversion with some World Championship talk today. The tournament starts on Friday!

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...ld-Championship/194/84896
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
The Canucks have selected four players fourth overall in franchise history:

Jere Gillis (1977)
Bill Derlago (1978)
Jim Sandlak (1985)
Bryan Allen (1998).

That's a combined 1,034 games and 391 points for the canucks.

Sweet.

- bloatedmosquito

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 3:53 PM ET
What are these girls fishing for?
- bloatedmosquito

Hey you're right they all are fishing
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
I'm always fascinated to see how draft prospect hype works.

Like Glass has all of a sudden become a top 5 pick for a lot of people, but about 45-60 days ago, he was only top 10 on some lists despite pretty steady production all year long.

Makar and Mittlestadt hype was high during the last month or 2, but has settled down since the rise of Glass and Heiskanen. Not that they're falling in rankings, they're just getting a bit less attention than Glass now.

Heiskanen's rise in hype I do understand after the tournament he just had, but the rest is all very interesting to follow.

Glass went from someone who I thought was underrated 2 months ago to now seeing a lot of people/rankings have him higher than I do. Someone posts a chart comparing him and Johansen along with a quote from his coach who compared and the 2 and voilà!

- Nucker101

Most people here something good or bad about a prospect and they generally move them about 20 spots up or down. Most of the time it should be about 5 spots up or down.
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