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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 1:28 PM ET
What do you mean, with our team, its gunna be

Juolevi Tanev
Hesky Guddy
Hutton Stecher

- SRam19

I don't mind that...it means Edler is gone and we still have the rights to Tree
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 1:32 PM ET
What do you mean, with our team, its gunna be

Juolevi Tanev
Hesky Guddy
Hutton Stecher

- SRam19

Gudbranson has not shown himself to be a top four dman, yet, I'd like to see him where Stecher is.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 1:36 PM ET
I expected the worst from the lottery. Honestly if you're not picking top 2 who cares who's chosen because its a toss up for who ranks from 3-10. Chances are we're taking Heskainen.
- SRam19

I doubt it because OJ looks to be better then him and both are left. Makar and liljegren both have more offensive upside and are right
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
I don't mind that...it means Edler is gone and we still have the rights to Tree
- CanuckDon

Need a banger D on the left side. Loss of tree hurt in that regard. A full season of guddy may ease a bit of pain.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 1 @ 1:41 PM ET
Gudbranson has not shown himself to be a top four dman, yet, I'd like to see him where Stecher is.
- LeftCoaster


The issue with that is how horrible him and Hutton played together.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 1 @ 1:41 PM ET
Bieksa was infuriating to watch. He was more of a personality so it covered up all of his defensive mishaps but he was god awful.
- Codes1087

For sure. His past few seasons here were very difficult to watch. The knee and body sliding blocks on 2/1's and could not make a first pass to save his life.

Country Club!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 1 @ 1:43 PM ET
Gudbranson has not shown himself to be a top four dman, yet, I'd like to see him where Stecher is.
- LeftCoaster

He was in FLA...thinking he is due for a good year here.

Sorry...not yelling lol
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 1:44 PM ET
He was in FLA...thinking he is due for a good year here.
- LordHumungous

I don't think he did, he had a good playoff series but was propped up by others in the top four. Campbell & Mitchell. Which to me says he's not a top four guy. He was awful this year in Vancouver, hopefully he's better next season.

Dumb trade
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
I doubt it because OJ looks to be better then him and both are left. Makar and liljegren both have more offensive upside and are right
- manvanfan


Its the Canucks we don't do logic here. Cmon step your game up.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
I don't think he did, he had a good playoff series but was propped up by others in the top four. Which to me says he's not a top four guy. He was awful this year in Vancouver, hopefully he's better next season.

Dumb trade

- LeftCoaster


I still think McCann will be a beauty.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
I still think McCann will be a beauty.
- golfingsince

Just really pissed they didn't develop him properly, now he's stuck in Florida trying to make it as a winger. Disappointing!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Just really pissed they didn't develop him properly, now he's stuck in Florida trying to make it as a winger. Disappointing!
- LeftCoaster


McCann and Virtanen are where they are now because of the Canucks stupidity IMO. Those two should have never played their first season in the show.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Just really pissed they didn't develop him properly, now he's stuck in Florida trying to make it as a winger. Disappointing!
- LeftCoaster

Meh, he scored 25 pts in 42 AHL games this year. He'll get back to camp a year older and stronger. Maybe another year until he makes the full transition.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
Just really pissed they didn't develop him properly, now he's stuck in Florida trying to make it as a winger. Disappointing!
- LeftCoaster

Should put Sutter up for Vegas and Vans 3rd for Nick Bjustad. Big boy to help all vans small wingers.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
McCann and Virtanen are where they are now because of the Canucks stupidity IMO. Those two should have never played their first season in the show.
- Codes1087

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
Kole lind or Robert Thomas drop to Van at 33?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
I don't think he did, he had a good playoff series but was propped up by others in the top four. Campbell & Mitchell. Which to me says he's not a top four guy. He was awful this year in Vancouver, hopefully he's better next season.

Dumb trade

- LeftCoaster


Mitchell was awful and brought his partners down. You have it backwards my round friend.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
I don't think he did, he had a good playoff series but was propped up by others in the top four. Campbell & Mitchell. Which to me says he's not a top four guy. He was awful this year in Vancouver, hopefully he's better next season.

Dumb trade

- LeftCoaster

I was never high on McCann so I was indifferent on it.

30 games I'm not sure is enough to assess Gudbranson here. Willing to give it this season as he should be way more familiar playing with Stecher Hutton and even Edler Tanev if they are still here.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Mitchell was awful and brought his partners down. You have it backwards my round friend.
- CanuckDon

Guds is just past green. Now the age where he solidifies himselfs as a top 4 or busts.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
Guds is just past green. Now the age where he solidifies himselfs as a top 4 or busts.
- manvanfan

He was injured for 90% of his time on the team. I'll pass judgment on him a few months into this season. I am glad Benning is going to sign him for 1 year before determining if he is worth a big contract.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
He was injured for 90% of his time on the team. I'll pass judgment on him a few months into this season. I am glad Benning is going to sign him for 1 year before determining if he is worth a big contract.
- CanuckDon

He has actually been injured quite a bit over his career. Van needs some durable defenders
the end
Location: CA
Joined: 02.02.2009

May 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
McCann and Virtanen are where they are now because of the Canucks stupidity IMO. Those two should have never played their first season in the show.
- Codes1087

Funny, I remember you banging that drum at the time and I would say 95% of the responders thought you were an idiot ....
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 1 @ 2:16 PM ET
Funny, I remember you banging that drum at the time and I would say 95% of the responders thought you were an idiot ....
- the end


I was called out for sure when it happened. I understand why it happened, giving the fragile fan base a bone to chew on while management figured out what was going on, but they both never looked ready, and in all fairness, it wasn't fair to them to have them play up. Either way, I just see it as a reason for where they are now, not to say they would be playing in the NHL if they hadn't played their first year up, but I think it definitely hurt them as far as development.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 2:18 PM ET
I was called out for sure when it happened. I understand why it happened, giving the fragile fan base a bone to chew on while management figured out what was going on, but they both never looked ready, and in all fairness, it wasn't fair to them to have them play up. Either way, I just see it as a reason for where they are now, not to say they would be playing in the NHL if they hadn't played their first year up, but I think it definitely hurt them as far as development.
- Codes1087

It hurt them for sure but if they are legit prospects they will get their careers back on track. I have reservations that either of them make it as decent NHLers.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 1 @ 2:21 PM ET
It hurt them for sure but if they are legit prospects they will get their careers back on track. I have reservations that either of them make it as decent NHLers.
- CanuckDon


I still stand by the fact that Virtanen (IMO) is not a bust. 20 years old, its WAY to early to call him that. Same with McCann. I think they can still be good players.

Shinkaruk on the other hand...
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