Dougie Hamilton
for
15th overall and 45 and 52 overall.

That might be the best choice here (recently).

I guess the truth is, I cant remember the last time a top 10 pick was traded (when it was known what the pick actually was). Last I know of was the Scheneider trade for Devils from Vancouver (9th overall).
- Lilroot9

I do know that Hamilton was younger and had a huge hype train when he was dealt. Vatanen is older and I don't think nearly the hype. He might be the better player but perception matters. Maybe I'm wrong.

That said, I still don't think Theodore or Montour would command such a high value given their age and lack of experience. They're really good prospects but not 100% sure-things yet.

I believe they do

Now twitter is going off with rumors of a Russ Brandon Janet Snyder being a thing haha
- Stripes77

Is there a market for a sort of 50 shades/One Buffalo fan fiction thing? I should get typing...

Elon Musk says hello
- jcragcrumple

And he's been struggling with propaganda, failures and a massively expensive product. That guy is eccentric as it comes. He really thinks we're going to have a Mars colony by 2030, lol.

NASA hasn't produced new space suits in over 40 years, they have about 15 left unused, yet still getting old and prone to breaking down and no funding from the government.

I like Elon Musk, but his business ventures have been anything but successful. He's overambitious, and has the money to back up his failures, as well as the investments and aforementioned loans to support net loss profit margins.

i love how this conversation spiralled from a fake kiss 98.5 tweet to elon musk.


you guys are awesome

i love how this conversation spiralled from a fake kiss 98.5 tweet to elon musk.


you guys are awesome
- Sabresfan-365

Elon Musk - another CTE victim.

How do you feel about Trump???

Please don't answer.
- Phatjohnsn

I can't even begin to.

2012, Jordan Staal (pens) for Brandon Sutter, Brian Dumoulin and 8th overall.
- Lilroot9

2011, Jeff Carter (Philly) for Jakub Voracek, 3rd round in 2011 and 8th overall in 2011.

And he's been struggling with propaganda, failures and a massively expensive product. That guy is eccentric as it comes. He really thinks we're going to have a Mars colony by 2030, lol.

NASA hasn't produced new space suits in over 40 years, they have about 15 left unused, yet still getting old and prone to breaking down and no funding from the government.

I like Elon Musk, but his business ventures have been anything but successful. He's overambitious, and has the money to back up his failures, as well as the investments and aforementioned loans to support net loss profit margins.
- BeadyEyedDouche

He's revolutionizing private space exploration and he's almost single handedly dragging the auto industry into the 21st century. Are you really going to call Tesla "anything but successful"?

So who do you have now? My hopes and dreams are smashed lol

I'm thinking they take if he's there makar ..

I would love Tippett he would basically be a Hoffman for us

Who knows maybe his calling is Dany Heatley but I think we're going to look at the Lower Side here lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I think Tippett will def be gone by 8 and possibly Makar too

Im hoping that Liljegren takes a fall and slides to us but not counting on it

I also like Tolvanen or Elias Pettersson who should be there when we pick

Oh I meant at an established corporation in the automotive industry. I am not qualified to be the CEO, CFO, COO, or C-whatever-O of any one of them, even one that's virtually fail proof. I could run the model T company with all sorts of resources and I probably would still run it into the ground.
- buffalofan19

Don't worry, government subsidiaries would just keep bailing you out.

I think Tippett will def be gone by 8 and possibly Makar too

Im hoping that Liljegren takes a fall and slides to us but not counting on it

I also like Tolvanen or Elias Pettersson who should be there when we pick
- MCGUIZZY

Tough call. Not sure who Eichel will target at 8

If I'm returning something online using a return shipping label do I have to take it to the post office or can I just drop it in the post box?

I do know that Hamilton was younger and had a huge hype train when he was dealt. Vatanen is older and I don't think nearly the hype. He might be the better player but perception matters. Maybe I'm wrong.

That said, I still don't think Theodore or Montour would command such a high value given their age and lack of experience. They're really good prospects but not 100% sure-things yet.
- Phatjohnsn

I am not saying you are wrong, but they know what those players mean to their teams. Montour or Theodore does not have to be blocked (for Expansion draft) so he is off the table (I would say) during the draft. So that goes back to maybe Vatanen only for this example.

I just hope we can weasel a guy away, I just dont think it will be easy to do.

He's revolutionizing private space exploration and he's almost single handedly dragging the auto industry into the 21st century. Are you really going to call Tesla "anything but successful"?
- jcragcrumple

He's about 25 years ahead of the curve and losing more money than he makes.

But don't get me wrong, I'm almost completely behind him and his vision... Except for the Mars colony poop. We need to fix this planet first and stop killing it.

A MARS colony is absurd on so many levels... Let alone the fact that we're hundreds of years away from terra-forming.

Tesla has faced bankruptcy and been close to going out of business numerous times under him.

And in all seriousness, WTF is going on with SolarCity?

Russ brandon ..

It wasn’t Whaley’s unwise gamble alone. In his defence, it must be pointed out that Brandon -- in his second year as final decision-maker on all matters involving the Bills franchise -- had been hard-selling a new club mindset that the Bills, under his vision and leadership, had to become a “forward-thinking, progressive and attacking organization.”

Said an ecstatic Brandon moments after the Watkins trade-up: “We went into this draft saying we were going to be bold, and we made a bold move.”

Yet however much Brandon might have urged that trade-up -- and print and video reports from that day clearly suggest he was deeply involved -- it’s Whaley’s now to wear.


The man who wooed Whaley from the Steelers to have him tutor as GM-in-training under Nix; who revered Nix, recruited Nix and recommended that Ralph Wilson hire Nix in 2010 as GM; who gave Whaley a new contract in February 2013; who had both the final say in hiring Marrone as head coach in 2013 and in approving the contract clause that allowed Marrone to bail after two years, with $4 million in pocket; who, with Whaley in January 2015, inexplicably told the Pegulas, “Don’t let (Ryan) leave the room!” in urging that Ryan be hired as Marrone’s replacement, even though it would necessarily mean blowing up the one thing on the team this century that had worked gloriously, namely Jim Schwartz’s terrifying, attack, wide-nine, anti-Rex defence of 2014; who posed for the camera with Pegula some 15 months ago when Whaley was handed yet another contract extension; and who remains president and managing partner of not only the Bills, but the Sabres too.

Namely, Russ Brandon.

Brandon actually advised previous owner Wilson on all principal football hirings and firings as far back as 2005, with the dismissal of president Tom Donahoe, according to reports of the time.

Yet here Brandon survives.

Attack

Russ brandon ..



Attack
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Some people will read this as they pour a nice glass of cherry Pegoolaid and continue to deny the plethora of evidence suggesting Russ Brandon is possibly the biggest weasel in all of sports.

I am not saying you are wrong, but they know what those players mean to their teams. Montour or Theodore does not have to be blocked (for Expansion draft) so he is off the table (I would say) during the draft. So that goes back to maybe Vatanen only for this example.

I just hope we can weasel a guy away, I just dont think it will be easy to do.
- Lilroot9

Yep, I still do think Vatanen or Fowler are the real option.

I think the best point you've made is the fact that a few other teams with player assets (such as Drouin) are going to be looking for a d-man. That could really hurt us.

Best we could hope for is Anaheim would covet the 8th pick more than a player because cost controlled salary/term - something they won't necessarily have with Vatanen/Drouin.

I think itd be a good deal if we could pull something off like:

Buffalo gives
#8 overall
2nd round pick
Forward Prospect

Anaheim gives
Vatanen
#25ish overall

Elias Pettersson-Potential pick for the Sabres at 8..


A crafty and agile two-way forward, Pettersson is consistently productive in all three zones. As he gets stronger, he'll become even more physical and aggressive than he is now, and his creativity could definitely elevate his game to dominant levels. He can be described as a tenacious, jack-of-all-trades kind of player; he is well versed in all the important aspects of his own game. His speed and top-end acceleration continue to improve game by game, and his hard-nosedness shows through in his dogged pursuit of puck control. Elias Pettersson is a complete hockey player with exceptional hockey sense who brings intellect and youthful exuberance to a game that feeds on his kind of exciting athleticism. [EP]

I think itd be a good deal if we could pull something off like:

Buffalo gives
#8 overall
2nd round pick
Forward Prospect

Anaheim gives
Vatanen
#25ish overall
- Phatjohnsn

Probably two things going against you here:

1) The draft is thought to be weak

2) I've read that after the first few picks you could probably throw the rest of the first round names in a hat

Yep, I still do think Vatanen or Fowler are the real option.

I think the best point you've made is the fact that a few other teams with player assets (such as Drouin) are going to be looking for a d-man. That could really hurt us.

Best we could hope for is Anaheim would covet the 8th pick more than a player because cost controlled salary/term - something they won't necessarily have with Vatanen/Drouin.

I think itd be a good deal if we could pull something off like:

Buffalo gives
#8 overall
2nd round pick
Forward Prospect

Anaheim gives
Vatanen
#25ish overall
- Phatjohnsn

Could see either Bailey or Baptiste in this deal if they ask for a prospect

Girgensons or Larsson if they want a little more experience

TLDR posts on HB today...

Probably two things going against you hear:

1) The draft is thought to be weak

2) I've read that after the first few picks you could probably throw the rest of the first round names in a hat
- Slump Buster

This has been said about a lot of drafts including 2014 which has turned out to be pretty good in my opinion. I think there will always be a lot of value in a top 10 pick..

TLDR posts on HB today...
- 51_Killer

That's the wonderful thing about reading though, you don't have to do it

This has been said about a lot of drafts including 2014 which has turned out to be pretty good in my opinion. I think there will always be a lot of value in a top 10 pick..
- MCGUIZZY

Sure, but in this case the value is attached to the draft before the draft and not in hindsight. Either way, Anaheim wouldn't bite on that. I don't know if #8 (without the exchange) would do it.

Elias Pettersson-Potential pick for the Sabres at 8..


A crafty and agile two-way forward, Pettersson is consistently productive in all three zones. As he gets stronger, he'll become even more physical and aggressive than he is now, and his creativity could definitely elevate his game to dominant levels. He can be described as a tenacious, jack-of-all-trades kind of player; he is well versed in all the important aspects of his own game. His speed and top-end acceleration continue to improve game by game, and his hard-nosedness shows through in his dogged pursuit of puck control. Elias Pettersson is a complete hockey player with exceptional hockey sense who brings intellect and youthful exuberance to a game that feeds on his kind of exciting athleticism.
- MCGUIZZY[EP]

This will get you excited about your guy
http://thehockeywriters.c...l-draft-prospect-profile/

But he has the biggest risk factor they say