I don't agree.

I think its having to listen to the negativity of many of the people living in this area.

For example, the whole 8th pick thing. I've heard a lot of people do the whole self-loathing "oh thats what happens to Buffalo, we'll always stink".

Here is a crazy idea: maybe we could just take a look at the opportunity the 8th pick provides and think it could help propel us to a playoff spot in the near or long term?
- Phatjohnsn

All we got from drafting 8th was some scrub named Risto and some tiny kid Alex something, nothing to see here.

I'm referring to his natural gas business. People blow their loads over him becoming a billionaire in an industry that had a 10 year boon, calling him a "self-made billionaire" except he got loans to start his business like anyone else and had a support system in the form of management and workers numbering possibly in the thousands.

IMO, the working class folk are more important to his success than he is himself, because without the labor, no company would succeed.

And we get paid poop and treated like poop by the upper-classes and then turn around and worship them because of their "success" that came off our our backs. It's a joke.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Who the hell does this?

I love the guy because he saved the Bills, and will spend money as the Sabres owner.

I would probably disagree with 100% of his political ideals, and I don't really care because that's a separate issue entirely

I would really love to bring in Bill Zito is some capacity.

Bill Zito
- Age: 52
- Attended Yale University while playing varsity hockey.
- Graduated from University of Wisconsin Law school and practiced at law firms in NY and Chicago.
- Founded sports agency Acme World Sports in 1995.
- Forbes ranked 8th most valuable hockey agency in 2013 with $200M in contracts.
- Was able to uncover late-round or undrafted talent as well as top picks as clients.
- Divested from his agency and named Columbus Assistant GM in 2013.
- Named Lake Erie GM in 2015.
- Lead Columbus' scouting department and played large role in college scouting as well as running the AHL affiliate.

what blueprint? They lucked into their success
- Sabresfan-365

True .. I was thinking once the ducks shut down Connor McDavid there would be no one left they have everyone stepping up once he gets shut down

But you are right they did luck into their success..

Maybe a better example would be the Ducks

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Secret source tells me the Sabres have hired Jason Botterill as GM & will announce it tomorrow.
- GilPerreault11

I cant tell if hes kidding or not but kiss 98.5 guy saying the sabres have hired Botterill and will announce it tomorrow


Edit: i mean 95% sure hes kidding since hes calling it a secret source lol

I still think hes just kidding, cant imagine a guy in his position being the first to break this kind of story

A lot of insecure, money worshiping plebeians in the Sabres fan base.

No one is going to deny the Pegulas being committed to or invested in the teams. But they're running them like a fan would, which is terribly.

IDGAF about him being a self-made billionaire (btw, that's a ridiculous term, he had dozens if not hundreds of people supporting him and working for him, but (frank) us working class people right? we only build the country on our backs), he's an absolute moron and revealing his sketchy nature the past month.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I've said this before. I would much rather be extended and then fired, then simply not having my contract renewed. I'm not so sure what's so "sketchy" about the Pegulas, here. It might not be the most wise usage of money, in my opinion, but there's nothing dishonest about it.

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Secret source tells me the Sabres have hired Jason Botterill as GM & will announce it tomorrow.

I don't know, WKSE DJ with 27,000 followers. Buffalo is a smallish town and people do talk.
- GilPerreault11

The first good move the pegulas actually made

Honestly I don't think anybody can copy that team and I'm not trying to be a jackass

A better blueprint would be the Edmonton Oilers in my opinion
- GERBE!!!75PTS

One last post,Cause I love your posts! Ya you might be right! I just don't like the frankers (team) not the fans

I'm referring to his natural gas business. People blow their loads over him becoming a billionaire in an industry that had a 10 year boon, calling him a "self-made billionaire" except he got loans to start his business like anyone else and had a support system in the form of management and workers numbering possibly in the thousands.

IMO, the working class folk are more important to his success than he is himself, because without the labor, no company would succeed.

And we get paid poop and treated like poop by the upper-classes and then turn around and worship them because of their "success" that came off our our backs. It's a joke.
- BeadyEyedDouche

In all fairness to Pegula could you not say the exact same thing about every person that has that kind of money? If you are worth say 2 billion dollars chances are you didn't make that 2 billion by yourself, everyone needs a hand to get started.

I don't agree.

I think its having to listen to the negativity of many of the people living in this area.

For example, the whole 8th pick thing. I've heard a lot of people do the whole self-loathing "oh thats what happens to Buffalo, we'll always stink".

Here is a crazy idea: maybe we could just take a look at the opportunity the 8th pick provides and think it could help propel us to a playoff spot in the near or long term?
- Phatjohnsn

I'm happy with the 8th pick. I didn't want something higher. Sometimes, losing is winning and we lost nothing in not winning the lottery, in fact, we might get to draft a really good, young defenseman who's only a couple years away from making a Ristolainen-type impact.

True .. I was thinking once the ducks shut down Connor McDavid there would be no one left they have everyone stepping up once he gets shut down

But you are right they did luck into their success..

Maybe a better example would be the Ducks
- GERBE!!!75PTS

its not that they need to follow a certain teams model, in general the model for success beyond the tank is some degree of patience and shrewd moves. Eventually puts you in a position where you can make the big moves in FA or via trade.

I'm referring to his natural gas business. People blow their loads over him becoming a billionaire in an industry that had a 10 year boon, calling him a "self-made billionaire" except he got loans to start his business like anyone else and had a support system in the form of management and workers numbering possibly in the thousands.

IMO, the working class folk are more important to his success than he is himself, because without the labor, no company would succeed.

And we get paid poop and treated like poop by the upper-classes and then turn around and worship them because of their "success" that came off our our backs. It's a joke.
- BeadyEyedDouche

Captain of Industry/Robber Baron discussion aside, it is his money and he put it toward something that makes people happy (or at least should). Debating whether it's more important to finance a well or physically dig it is a futile discussion. One requires the other. Be glad that the guy you seem to loathe is actually looking to make the teams you love better.

its not that they need to follow a certain teams model, in general the model for success beyond the tank is some degree of patience and shrewd moves. Eventually puts you in a position where you can make the big moves in FA or via trade.
- Sabresfan-365

I just want a fast-paced offense that can just break out when the time is right
The goal is to get speed this offseason

You posted a picture from a source other than wikipedia, to discredit Wikipedia. Everyone knows you can edit a page, snap a pick, and when it is discovered it will be edited back. Because someone took advantage of the pier review editing, which is what is credited for Wikipedia's accuracy, to make a joke, doesn't give you credence in your claim that it is not reliable. The fact that you tried this, doesn't bode well for your respectability or integrity.

As far as using it as a source, when I Googled CTE, it was the first website shown, and since i merely wanted an overview to show that the symptoms included poor decision making and attention I used it. I encouraged people to read up on it and see for themselves.

You never said the words "it is not accurate" but you said "(of all places)" and then posted a pic from a source that was not Wikipedia saying "next?" If you are now claimimg that you were not criticizing the source, then again it shows dishonesty on your part.

I expect a response, I expect different points of view, but when you throw a tantrum, and use insidious tactics to discredit an argument it is exactly the type of behaviour that starts the arguing and bickering that you claim other people start. You take shots at me because i have an opinion that you disagree with. You act like i am not allowed to voice my opinion. Use condescending remarks like "Jesus Christ" and "drop it" and use nefarious tactics to try to validate your argument. I shoot back at you and I am the jerk

This is exactly the problem with these boards, anyone who has a minority opinion is inevitably met by one or more people that treat them with disrespect and try to insult and discredit them to show off to all their friends. Then when they say something back they are the problem. The end result is a drone of people who are left that all say the same things and think the same way. An echo chamber, where very few people stick around to discuss topics because of the vitriol they are dealt. I give credit to the few who post here regularly that deal with it. You and they know who they are.
- SabresPanacea

It has absolutely nothing to do with your minority opinion. There are plenty of people on here who have opinions that differ from the majority of people here, however they also use facts to base their opinions on. FACTS not things like saying someone MIGHT have CTE.

When you use that as your entire basis of an argument expect ridicule especially on here. If you aren't aware that is how it works around here. Most people own up to their bad posts, bad opinions, and completely wrong views.

Now if you could have shown any recent reports where Botterill could be showing the effects of potentially having CTE then your opinion wouldn't have been met with such ridicule from myself and other posters. But there aren't any, you are literally throwing sh!t against the wall looking for it to stick here.

Again I don't mind your opinion of not wanting Botterill what is being ridiculed is your reasoning behind it because there is no validity to it other than 12 years ago he retired from hockey due to concussion issues.

He is good enough to be second in command for the defending Stanley Cup Champions and is known as their "capologist". But he MIGHT have CTE, just like I MIGHT get in a car accident every time I am riding in a vehicle.

It's a poor reason for not wanting him and I am sorry you can't handle that other people ridiculed you for that being your reason for not wanting him.

I just want a fast-paced offense that can just break out when the time is right
The goal is to get speed this offseason
- GERBE!!!75PTS

swapping franson and gorges for guhle and antipin should help.

swapping franson and gorges for guhle and antipin should help.
- Sabresfan-365

Did i miss something?

6 for 6, 3 Home Runs and 10 RBI's in one game...

Final score: Nationals 23 Mets 5
- RhinoFan

I'm happy with the 8th pick. I didn't want something higher. Sometimes, losing is winning and we lost nothing in not winning the lottery, in fact, we might get to draft a really good, young defenseman who's only a couple years away from making a Ristolainen-type impact.
- BeadyEyedDouche

I sort of hope they deal the pick for a youngish guy who can step in and play on the blueline right away. There are quite a few opportunities to do something significant even if that is just drafting the dman you mentioned.

Would it have been nice to be 3rd? Sure, better asset for trading/picking etc. But yeah, life isn't over.

Did i miss something?
- jcragcrumple

i mean just in the lineup. stash gorges in the pressbox or rochester for all i care.

i mean just in the lineup. stash gorges in the pressbox or rochester for all i care.
- Sabresfan-365

i mean just in the lineup. stash gorges in the pressbox or rochester for all i care.
- Sabresfan-365

Gotcha. Definitely one of GMTM's worst trades. At least he taught Xenon Konopka and Linus Omark about leadership

Honestly I don't think anybody can copy that team and I'm not trying to be a jackass

A better blueprint would be the Edmonton Oilers in my opinion
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Are you sure?

But really Edmonton drafted the best player in the world with a ton of already skilled players from drafting first overall!

Granted there isn't a player on the Sabres roster that Nashville would trade PK for other than Eichel!

What I meant by being like Nashville is having an amazing top 4 with some very skilled fast offensive players that top 4 can get the puck to!

I sort of hope they deal the pick for a youngish guy who can step in and play on the blueline right away. There are quite a few opportunities to do something significant even if that is just drafting the dman you mentioned.

Would it have been nice to be 3rd? Sure, better asset for trading/picking etc. But yeah, life isn't over.
- Phatjohnsn

I Would consider swapping 1st rounders with a team like Anaheim for Vatanen. Pick up a d-man that can play now and still pick in the first round.

In all fairness to Pegula could you not say the exact same thing about every person that has that kind of money? If you are worth say 2 billion dollars chances are you didn't make that 2 billion by yourself, everyone needs a hand to get started.
- Sabres1523

Ultimately, fortunes are made by decision making. Yes, you need laborers and support below you to make things happen, but ultimately, it's how and where you utlize that support that makes you successful. For that reason, I never really bought into the "you didn't build that" line of thinking. Give me a bunch of resources and a management position in the automotive industry and I probably run it into the ground, instead of make money because I know next to nothing about it.

In all fairness to Pegula could you not say the exact same thing about every person that has that kind of money? If you are worth say 2 billion dollars chances are you didn't make that 2 billion by yourself, everyone needs a hand to get started.
- Sabres1523

That's my point. Why people are singing the gospel over Pegula becoming a billionaire, in one of the worst industries for the environment, when it was people like us doing all the hard (manual labor) work and making all the poop money, while at the same time these same people are always the ones saying THIS IS A BLUE COLLAR TOWN!!!! is dumbfounding.

The literal only thing that separates the working-class from the middle and upper-classes is the opportunity for education or the money to have invested in something, or the knowledge that comes with the culture in the first place. Look at the entertainment industry, it's almost universally full of people from middle-class backgrounds.

Now, a lot of people are/were and would be happy just going to work in a factory after high school and living a simple life for the most part, yet we don't even have that option anymore. We have to struggle to find terrible jobs with awful working conditions and hope that nepotism somehow saves us some day.

There are 90 million unemployed adults in America right now. Only 8% of them receive unemployment benefits, and that's where the skewered numbers come from when we gets manipulated statistics.

Yet if "poor" people didn't have to worry about pennies so much, had access to the knowledge and education that more affluent people do and weren't treated like such dirt for their circumstance, this country would have a lot less problems.

Thank god Cuomo made SUNY tuition free. Now maybe people like me can go and finish their degree, or even better, people who couldn't even sniff a college course can finally get some edumacashun.