I have been watching Orlov, not sure what you see in him but he's pretty run of the mill. Not bad at anything but not good at anything either. Shattenkirk has been pretty much a bust. So has Ron Hainsy to be honest.
- Dcoms

I don't condsider Hainsey a nust because he is being forced to play out of the kind of role where he should be successful. Put him in the 3rd pair and he would be fine. There are not a multitude of good choiced with 58 out, so it is what it is.