Ugh... no more college guys. This CBA-UFA loophole is becoming a nightmare.
- sskkoo1

I think you need to do your due-dalliance. get an idea in the interviews what their goals are. See how quickly they want to turn pro

Ugh... no more college guys. This CBA-UFA loophole is becoming a nightmare.
- sskkoo1

1st round guys very rarely do that, and if they do we get compensation

Ugh... no more college guys. This CBA-UFA loophole is becoming a nightmare.
- sskkoo1

the new cba should allow any drafted player, to sign and play in ahl their first year


period

Obviously would love to win the lottery and take Nico, Gabe, or Patrick... but, I'd be very happy with Tippet, Mittlestadt, Lilijegren, or Makar.

I still think Lilijegren is the best defenseman in the draft regardless if he didn't have a stellar year. Anyone playing in a mens' league at that age will have more trouble than a guy dominating in juniors.
- sskkoo1

mittelstadt's a no for me now. majority of his scoring is coming on the powerplay which is like the last thing this team needs

The parade of dysfunction continues in Buffalo.

Structure, Character & Discipline...could you be anymore vague Terry? How about "Honor, Integrity and Hard Work?". What a bunch of corporate nonsense. It is becoming clear Pegula doesn't know what he's doing, didn't he sign Tim Murray to an extension in October? Is this what "hockey heaven"(another nonsense term) is supposed to look like?

Good luck to the next GM! I think it's Bull$!!! that they didn't give Murray another year. It's not like he didn't have a plan, and Pegula has to know that you don't just turn a historically bad team into "perennial playoff contender" in a year or two. If the Maple Leafs are your yardstick, you have to remember the Leafs bottomed out at 68+69 point seasons, the Sabres hit 52+54 points. We were really, really, really bad remember?

So yeah, I hate being a Sabres fan again, but it will be interesting...hope the new GM is ready to make a playoff push next year with the Sword of Damocles over his head!

the new cba should allow any drafted player, to sign and play in ahl their first year


period
- homiedclown

selfish thinking, most of these small chl towns live off this rule but nobody really gives it any thought.

1st round guys very rarely do that, and if they do we get compensation
- Sabresfan-365

I can see it now, Borgen takes a huge step his jr season, decides to stay in school and has another great year and signs with wild, hometown team when he graduates

Corey Pronman-"Several NHL execs expressed skepticism that Liljegren will be in their top 10. Believe Miro Heiskanen/Cale Makar fighting for top D in 2017."
- MCGUIZZY

Like last year, there isnt all that much gap between the d-men in this draft from their draft year. Scouting is important but considering the position ultimately the success of that pick will come down to development cause as far as talent goes there isnt much to separate them.

selfish thinking, most of these small chl towns live off this rule but nobody really gives it any thought.
- Sabresfan-365

that's great


they can chip in for the new CBA then

Saw this on Facebook. Thought it would fit well here.

selfish thinking, most of these small chl towns live off this rule but nobody really gives it any thought.
- Sabresfan-365

Almost like how hs players have to play at least one year in college before going pro. I like that idea...obviously different sport but you get the general idea

college loophole is crazy and still wondering what is going on with Cal..i am on board for drafting leljegren or vallaimaki

I can see it now, Borgen takes a huge step his jr season, decides to stay in school and has another great year and signs with wild, hometown team when he graduates
- homiedclown

or you know, he doesnt. its a risk you take but its not like every college draft pick from round 2-7 just decides to jump ship and sign with NYR or their home town team.

Avoiding them in the draft because of few guys do it is just cowardly.

mittelstadt's a no for me now. majority of his scoring is coming on the powerplay which is like the last thing this team needs
- Sabresfan-365

special teams don't matter


is Vilardi nhl ready?


they have him on the wing in windsor but scouting report says he is a natural center

rw?

that's great


they can chip in for the new CBA then
- homiedclown

other way around. you want them to give up something you have to offer them something otherwise really no incentive to change this rule

Avoiding them in the draft because of few guys do it is just cowardly.
- Sabresfan-365

it's buffalo


most often it doesn't end well

The parade of dysfunction continues in Buffalo.

Structure, Character & Discipline...could you be anymore vague Terry? How about "Honor, Integrity and Hard Work?". What a bunch of corporate nonsense. It is becoming clear Pegula doesn't know what he's doing, didn't he sign Tim Murray to an extension in October? Is this what "hockey heaven"(another nonsense term) is supposed to look like?

Good luck to the next GM! I think it's Bull$!!! that they didn't give Murray another year. It's not like he didn't have a plan, and Pegula has to know that you don't just turn a historically bad team into "perennial playoff contender" in a year or two. If the Maple Leafs are your yardstick, you have to remember the Leafs bottomed out at 68+69 point seasons, the Sabres hit 52+54 points. We were really, really, really bad remember?

So yeah, I hate being a Sabres fan again, but it will be interesting...hope the new GM is ready to make a playoff push next year with the Sword of Damocles over his head!

- notalent

It was rumored that Murray did not have any answers for the questions Pegula had. No matter what job you have, if your performance goes down, and your boss asks why, you say "I Don't know, have patients" you are most likely fired on the spot.
GMTM made a lot of mistakes in drafting (the second round in 2014, cornell and karaback, horrible) and trading (bogo, gorges fashing+dlo), as has been said many times on this board, he had almost unlimited resources when it came to picks and prospects and a last place finish in the division is what it got him.

https://youtu.be/p4PkDwgVF9E

Every time I read homiedclown's location I think of this scene
You're totally the Joker

special teams don't matter


is Vilardi nhl ready?


they have him on the wing in erie but scouting report says he is a natural center

rw?
- homiedclown

he creates a lot on his own and hes got the size. every player thats played with him has seen their regular and adv stats go up. i suppose biggest question would be speed but depending on the team if you put him in a sheltered role i dont see why he cant make the nhl right away.

Aaron Luchuk turned 20, is he a free agent, or in the draft pool for 2017?

other way around. you want them to give up something you have to offer them something otherwise really no incentive to change this rule
- Sabresfan-365

I just don't see how it's even, and the nhlpa should step in at some point



then again I am shocked the nflpa didn't demand a second urine test on those 2 diluted samples


side note how can those players be dinged with a strike already when they are not nfl property?

I think having a new GM might make it a lot less likely our 1st is traded

The parade of dysfunction continues in Buffalo.

Structure, Character & Discipline...could you be anymore vague Terry? How about "Honor, Integrity and Hard Work?". What a bunch of corporate nonsense. It is becoming clear Pegula doesn't know what he's doing, didn't he sign Tim Murray to an extension in October? Is this what "hockey heaven"(another nonsense term) is supposed to look like?

Good luck to the next GM! I think it's Bull$!!! that they didn't give Murray another year. It's not like he didn't have a plan, and Pegula has to know that you don't just turn a historically bad team into "perennial playoff contender" in a year or two. If the Maple Leafs are your yardstick, you have to remember the Leafs bottomed out at 68+69 point seasons, the Sabres hit 52+54 points. We were really, really, really bad remember?

So yeah, I hate being a Sabres fan again, but it will be interesting...hope the new GM is ready to make a playoff push next year with the Sword of Damocles over his head!

- notalent

I liked Murray's boldness, but how did he deserve another year?

He took a pile of assets and converted it into very little:

Overpaid for Kane
Overpaid for Lehner
Completely ripped off in the Fasching deal.
Lost on the Kuli/Pysyk deal
Turned: McNabb, Pysyk, Myers, Zadorov into very little return
Had 14 first and second round picks, trade half away, and the one's made, he picked only 1 defenseman.
Took Lemieux over Barbershev when the whole world knew better
Drafter Cornel and Karabacek when defensemen who were projected to be 1st round talent were still left on the board.
Hired (No, excuse me, paid a 3rd rounder for) Disco Dan who ruined Girgensons and stuck Samson on the wing for two straight years.
Could not sell Vesey on Buffalo after paying to talk to him.
Could not land Babcock after throwing the kitchen sink at him.
Signed Moulson to a ridiculous contract when it was pretty clear his best days were behind him.


How's this? Need more reasons?

I liked Murray's boldness, but how did he deserve another year?

He took a pile of assets and converted it into very little:

Overpaid for Kane
Overpaid for Lehner
Completely ripped off in the Fasching deal.
Lost on the Kuli/Pysyk deal
Turned: McNabb, Pysyk, Myers, Zadorov into very little return
Had 14 first and second round picks, trade half away, and the one's made, he picked only 1 defenseman.
Took Lemieux over Barbershev when the whole world knew better
Drafter Cornel and Karabacek when defensemen who were projected to be 1st round talent were still left on the board.
Hired (No, excuse me, paid a 3rd rounder for) Disco Dan who ruined Girgensons and stuck Samson on the wing for two straight years.
Could not sell Vesey on Buffalo after paying to talk to him.
Could not land Babcock after throwing the kitchen sink at him.
Signed Moulson to a ridiculous contract when it was pretty clear his best days were behind him.


How's this? Need more reasons?
- sskkoo1

This is a good post.

I think having a new GM might make it a lot less likely our 1st is traded
- sbroads24

I tend to agree. But I do think there will be a lot of pressure to find a Defenseman that will help us next year so I dont think its out of the question

There are so many unknowns with a new GM

He may hate alot of the players we already have/Drafted. Murray came in and moved out alot of regiers picks. He may not like Asplud or Baptiste, ect

I think having a new GM might make it a lot less likely our 1st is traded
- sbroads24

I think new guys gunna try and stockpile, at least in the short term.