Funny to hear that the 29th place team had a shut down D.

What did he shut down?
- flipneil

His season. Early

Tanev is a top end shutdown d man. He's exactly what the Leafs need to play with Rielly. Not an offensive minded VATANEN.
- Scooby_Doo

What are you smoking son? The highlighted players have something in common with your name. Just leave out the Scooby and repeat twice. And in the photo below replace one of the Three Stooges with an inexperienced coach that you can bring in for cheap so you can fire his ass when the team finishes 28th next year.

Tanev was injured all year. On an even crappier team than last year
To most, he is unknown as being a good dman. But gm's around the league know how good he is.

Anyways, I don't see a trade there anyway. If your the Leafs, u get Karl Alzner for free. But he shoots left. I also like the looks of Andrew Nielsen, for the future.
- storm88

He was, and the ownthepuck site takes into account three years of results for its data compilation.

I agree with your previous comment though, that the Rielly/Tanev partnership was excellent.

sharks aren't trading vlasic

maybe they move schlemko instead of losing him in the draft.

I agree that there will D for F ahead of the expansion draft for the sake of protection and optimization, buuuuuuuut the Leafs don't need to protect Nylander or any of their rookie forwards. So with that in mind Ek's proposal of Nylander or Kapanen for Vlasic does not apply to what you're saying.

JVR? Yes.
Willy and/or Kap? No.
- As_I_See_It

Yeah but i didn't say that did i?

THIS JUST IN: Every team in the NHL would be interested in Vlasic to shore up blue line... more to come
- Girouxsalem90

Yes and no.

Presumably the Sharks would be rebuilding if that's the case. Thornton, Marleau, Vlasic, maybe even Pavelski or Couture, could go. No idea what they'd do with Brent Burns.

I think it's somewhat clear that their window is, if not shut already, pretty much done for.

Not every team in the league would like him, if it means sending picks and high end prospects out in return. For example, Vancouver. He is of no use to them. By the time they can be competitive again, he'll be retired. What would be the point?

Any team entering their window, or competing now, would be VERY interested.

Pittsburgh maybe? The Leafs? Oilers?

Funny to hear that the 29th place team had a shut down D.

What did he shut down?
- flipneil

Their ability to win?

tee hee.

I would really like to see Vlasic on this team, but not at the expense of Nylander.

I would be ok with a Vlasic for JVR trade.. However, not sure what the Sharks needs are, other than to get younger
- PatC80

They won't want a guy like JVR, unless they plan on flipping him again.

If they do this, they're looking for youth and picks.

Kapanen, Nielson/Dermott, and a first maybe?

And yep, I'd do that in a second for the pickel.

Yes and no.

Presumably the Sharks would be rebuilding if that's the case. Thornton, Marleau, Vlasic, maybe even Pavelski or Couture, could go. No idea what they'd do with Brent Burns.

I think it's somewhat clear that their window is, if not shut already, pretty much done for.

Not every team in the league would like him, if it means sending picks and high end prospects out in return. For example, Vancouver. He is of no use to them. By the time they can be competitive again, he'll be a grandfather. What would be the point?

Any team entering their window, or competing now, would be VERY interested.

Pittsburgh maybe? The Leafs? Oilers?
- prock

fixed

Yes and no.

Presumably the Sharks would be rebuilding if that's the case. Thornton, Marleau, Vlasic, maybe even Pavelski or Couture, could go. No idea what they'd do with Brent Burns.

I think it's somewhat clear that their window is, if not shut already, pretty much done for.

Not every team in the league would like him, if it means sending picks and high end prospects out in return. For example, Vancouver. He is of no use to them. By the time they can be competitive again, he'll be retired. What would be the point?

Any team entering their window, or competing now, would be VERY interested.

Pittsburgh maybe? The Leafs? Oilers?
- prock

thing is, i can't think of a single gm that has ever this been proactive with a rebuild. it's always let's take one more kick at the can with the current core.

i'd be shocked if wilson starts a rebuild this year. he wants a cup and will take one more shot.

Yes and no.

Presumably the Sharks would be rebuilding if that's the case. Thornton, Marleau, Vlasic, maybe even Pavelski or Couture, could go. No idea what they'd do with Brent Burns.

I think it's somewhat clear that their window is, if not shut already, pretty much done for.

Not every team in the league would like him, if it means sending picks and high end prospects out in return. For example, Vancouver. He is of no use to them. By the time they can be competitive again, he'll be retired. What would be the point?

Any team entering their window, or competing now, would be VERY interested.

Pittsburgh maybe? The Leafs? Oilers?
- prock

Agree with you. Sharks and Kings will be in rebuild mode starting next year. The three teams you indicated might have interest, it will depend on what shakes loose before the expansion draft. Return will be significantly lower than what Ek indicated. Doughty would be of more interest to contending teams and he will surely be available soon.

"Nylander could get it done..."

Holy (frank) Ek, you high bro?
- .HOHO.

at least he didn't say MIGHT get it done

Tanev is a top notch shutdown guy. That said, the article was written before last season, and Tanev's shot suppression metrics have been overtaken - significantly - by Josh Manson.
- lumlums

I'd trade for Tanev. Or Vlasic. I know keeping Nylander off the table would be hard, but I wouldn't offer him up.

If a trade can be made with a combination of Kapanen, Nielsen/Dermott, and a first, then I'd do it. 2 of those for Tanev, all 3 for Vlasic.

Otherwise, I move on and stay patient.

Maybe Vlasic hits UFA next summer anyway.

Agree with you. Sharks and Kings will be in rebuild mode starting next year. The three teams you indicated might have interest, it will depend on what shakes loose before the expansion draft. Return will be significantly lower than what Ek indicated. Doughty would be of more interest to contending teams and he will surely be available soon.
- winsix

Sorry, tell me again why Rob Blake would trade Drew Doughty?

thing is, i can't think of a single gm that has ever this been proactive with a rebuild. it's always let's take one more kick at the can with the current core.

i'd be shocked if wilson starts a rebuild this year. he wants a cup and will take one more shot.
- Tumbleweed

Exactly. People who think the Sharks are dead are crazy. Do people not remember they just went to the Finals last year and if for not a crazy good Pens team probably have won the Cup? The roster on paper this year was BETTER than that Cup run team was even. If they can find a way to keep Thornton and Marleau while also getting another player or two to take on some of the weight they are a legit contender again next season. Burns, Vlasic, Couture, Pavelski, Hertl, Jones... that's still a solid core.

thing is, i can't think of a single gm that has ever this been proactive with a rebuild. it's always let's take one more kick at the can with the current core.

i'd be shocked if wilson starts a rebuild this year. he wants a cup and will take one more shot.
- Tumbleweed

He might take a shot, but he will be fired very soon. If he has the ability to make trades without asking for permission now, it will surely not be the case very shortly.

Agree with you. Sharks and Kings will be in rebuild mode starting next year. The three teams you indicated might have interest, it will depend on what shakes loose before the expansion draft. Return will be significantly lower than what Ek indicated. Doughty would be of more interest to contending teams and he will surely be available soon.
- winsix

You think Doughty will be available soon eh?

If he ended up a Leaf, I'd bust a nut.

But jeez, that's a long shot.

The Sharks would be wise NOT to trade their top Dman. Especially playing in a division against the likes of McDavid, Monohan, Kopitar, Getzlaf. Who;s gonna get the assignment to shut them down? Brendan (I can't skate backwards) Dillon?

Sorry, tell me again why Rob Blake would trade Drew Doughty?
- PatC80

he won't.

he'll tinker with his roster the way hextall has in philly.

He might take a shot, but he will be fired very soon. If he has the ability to make trades without asking for permission now, it will surely not be the case very shortly.
- winsix

Yeah they're going to fire Doug Wilson, who has kept the team in the playoffs and competitive for 12 of the last 13 seasons. Doug Wilson is one of the best GMs in the league.

Exactly. People who think the Sharks are dead are crazy. Do people not remember they just went to the Finals last year and if for not a crazy good Pens team probably have won the Cup? The roster on paper this year was BETTER than that Cup run team was even. If they can find a way to keep Thornton and Marleau while also getting another player or two to take on some of the weight they are a legit contender again next season. Burns, Vlasic, Couture, Pavelski, Hertl, Jones... that's still a solid core.
- WaterVsAnchor

Thornton is on retirements doorstep at 37. Marleau is too. Pavelski is on the downside of his career.

I think by next season, you'll find the Sharks are nowhere near the same team they have been in recent years.

The window is shut. They're not winning a cup any time soon.

he won't.

he'll tinker with his roster the way hextall has in philly.
- Tumbleweed

oh ok good.. Was wondering how many concussions Rob Blake had as a player..

Trade anyone not named Doughty, Quick, Kopitar, Toffoli, Carter or Pearson..

The Kings still have a really good core

Leafs fans be like what.


- Scooby_Doo

This is (frank)ing hilarious coming from you. I remember how high and mighty you were after the Canucks made the finals. Seems you've eased off a bit now that your team is the poops.

Thornton is on retirements doorstep at 37. Marleau is too. Pavelski is on the downside of his career.

I think by next season, you'll find the Sharks are nowhere near the same team they have been in recent years.

The window is shut. They're not winning a cup any time soon.
- prock

The grim reaper has spoken.
RIP Sharks.

What is rather amusing to me, considering the amount of abuse that is heaped upon him, is that the perfect player to help the Leafs' blueline depth and development moving forward would be Andrew MacDonald. He is a legitimate 3rd pair who can play 2nd pair minutes. He has puck skills but should not be seen as the mover of a pair.
Everyone likes to laugh at his contract, but his actual on ice performance is better than what the Leafs were getting, and since they print their own money....
- wbon22

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