So trade away a 60 pt rookie, now sophmore, on an ELC for a 30 yr old Dman that has one year left before becoming a UFA?

Vlasic is a #1 def. I got no issue with that. But the Leafs are not trading a 20 year old who just had 60 points in his rookie season for him or anyone else of Vlasic's age. Ek has accomplished what he wanted .... lots of hits about something that is never ever going to happen. So basically the same old same old.
- Matthews_Auston

I do agree with this. To win a Cup you need your roster to be clicking at the right time. Ideally you'd want your forward core and your D core to be the same age to keep that window open as long as possible. When your top guys are in their prime. Vlasic is going to be on the downward trend. You only trade for Vlasic if you think your Cup window is open NOW.

Is the Larsson for Hall trade now looked upon as a good trade for EDM since they are still playing?

Not trying to be an a**, we just don't get much EDM updates where I live and I thought the trade was pretty much universally panned the last I remembered hearing.
- wolphnuts12

Hall trade was addition by subtraction. Larsson gives u nothing offensively. But he's young and tougher than people thought. Solid stay at home Dman. Leafs should just try and sign Alzner.
Tanev is a RHD, but his NTC clause kicks in July 1st. Not sure JB would wanna move him. For some reason RHD are hard to find. He would bring in some much needed scoring, but losing Tryamkin may have nixed any D trade.

Thornton and Marleau are UFAs this summer. They will stay for less money or they will walk. Plain and simple. We've got the cap space to retool and bring in some good players. Can we fully replace Thornton and Marleau? Probably not right now, but you don't shoot yourself in the foot by trading the pillar of your defensive structure for a winger.
- WaterVsAnchor

Sharks have about $18 million of projected cap space. Thornton and Marleau represented about one sixth of their offence last year. With the age of the team and in the absence of high quality young scoring, hard to see Sharks not doing a significant rebuild, which means unloading contracts, and getting rid of older players. If you are pinning your hopes on Hertl who scored 22 points in 49 games this year, prepare to miss the playoffs for a long time. Lots of great young players in the West that will be playoff bound for years to come, none of which play for the Sharks. Point is moot, whether or not Vlasik gets traded though - it is highly unlikely that a Lou would make a significant trade for an older d-man with little control when there will be a significant number of quality d-men moved prior to the expansion draft this summer.

Source is in the title, yet you offered NO SOURCE for this rumour. Good job Ek, another stupid post proving how little you know about sports.

You get it. The fans who actually understand hockey beyond the guys who score goals see his value. Vlasic is a Grade A+ defenseman.
- WaterVsAnchor

No one is arguing that Vlasic is not a #1 or #2 defenceman.. The cost of Nylander, who is 20 yrs old, coming off a 61 point season and still on his ELC is just too high of a price

I do agree with this. To win a Cup you need your roster to be clicking at the right time. Ideally you'd want your forward core and your D core to be the same age to keep that window open as long as possible. When your top guys are in their prime. Vlasic is going to be on the downward trend. You only trade for Vlasic if you think your Cup window is open NOW.
- WaterVsAnchor

100%. If Vlasic was 25 then I would do that deal in a second but SJ wouldn't.

Tanev for Kapanen + 1st.

Leafs need a rhd.
- Scooby_Doo

I'd say no to that.

100%. If Vlasic was 25 then I would do that deal in a second but SJ wouldn't.
- Matthews_Auston

Hamonic for Kapanen straight up.

Tanev is a top end shutdown d man. He's exactly what the Leafs need to play with Rielly. Not an offensive minded VATANEN.
- Scooby_Doo

It was Reilly and Tanev that were partners at the World's last year. They were out there almost every other shift. Lights out...

That being said I don't wanna move Tanev. And Nylander is a not going anywhere. Good click bait tho.

No one is arguing that Vlasic is not a #1 or #2 defenceman.. The cost of Nylander, who is 20 yrs old, coming off a 61 point season and still on his ELC is just too high of a price
- PatC80

Typical homer.

https://www.google.ca/amp/www.stanleycupofchowder.com/platform/amp/2016/8/16/12481256/the-top-20-defensemen-in-the-nhl-right-now-for-real

"Chris Tanev is the best shutdown defenseman in the NHL. He's good at doing the defenseman things. His shot suppression prevents 0.3 goals per 60 RelTM compared to an average player. That's a (frank)ton. The next highest mark by a defenseman is Brian Campbell's 0.19. That's what us fancy math nerds call an "outlier". No one is in the same tier as Tanev when it comes to shot suppression.

Why is he rarely given credit for this? Part of it is the same as Klefbom. The Canucks are poop at defending as a group, so you don't really expect them to have a star shutdown defenseman. But they do. Here he is. Existing."
- Scooby_Doo

Tanev is a top notch shutdown guy. That said, the article was written before last season, and Tanev's shot suppression metrics have been overtaken - significantly - by Josh Manson.

I must have been watching a different game.....

He needs to be paired with a stay at home dman, so he can iafrate all the time
- mr.sir

Apparently so.

Typical homer.
- walshyleafsfan

Canucks fans won't understand how good Nylander could be..


Let me ask you, would you trade Bo Horvat + for Vlasic?

Canucks fans won't understand how good Nylander could be..


Let me ask you, would you trade Bo Horvat + for Vlasic?
- PatC80

(frank) me. We're not doing this again Pat.

(frank) me. We're not doing this again Pat.
- walshyleafsfan

lol, Point taken..

Plus, Nylander is better than Horvat.

lol, Point taken..

Plus, Nylander is better than Horvat.
- PatC80

Agreed. Horvat would be what, Leafs 4th or 5th best prospect?

Not a bad player to be fair.

Tanev on the other hand, brutal. Just as useful as Roman Polak.

Tanev is a top notch shutdown guy. That said, the article was written before last season, and Tanev's shot suppression metrics have been overtaken - significantly - by Josh Manson.
- lumlums

Tanev was injured all year. On an even crappier team than last year
To most, he is unknown as being a good dman. But gm's around the league know how good he is.

Anyways, I don't see a trade there anyway. If your the Leafs, u get Karl Alzner for free. But he shoots left. I also like the looks of Andrew Nielsen, for the future.

It was Reilly and Tanev that were partners at the World's last year. They were out there almost every other shift. Lights out...

That being said I don't wanna move Tanev. And Nylander is a not going anywhere. Good click bait tho.
- storm88

Yes it was. I say take a chance on KApanen, he could be good or he could be an ahl lifer.
The 1st round pick is more what inn interested in. Kapanen is a bonus.

Agreed. Horvat would be what, Leafs 4th or 5th best prospect?

Not a bad player to be fair.

Tanev on the other hand, brutal. Just as useful as Roman Polak.
- walshyleafsfan

You funny guy.

Yes it was. I say take a chance on KApanen, he could be good or he could be an ahl lifer.
The 1st round pick is more what inn interested in. Kapanen is a bonus.
- Scooby_Doo

weak draft.

Agreed. Horvat would be what, Leafs 4th or 5th best prospect?

Not a bad player to be fair.

Tanev on the other hand, brutal. Just as useful as Roman Polak.
- walshyleafsfan

Not much..... Vlasic is not worth a nylander or kapenen.
- BALUCHA

Easily worth Kap +...not Nylander, the leafs wouldnt do that, hes' too old.

Funny to hear that the 29th place team had a shut down D.

What did he shut down?

- storm88

Meh. Dime a dozen. Always injured. Ever so slightly better than Gudbranson (who legitimately is (frank)ing awful), no offense, not much toughness. Not much to like. Game sorta passes him by.

We also need that 1st this year for Foote, Hague or Brannstrom.