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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 26 @ 3:50 PM ET
We are dealing with Ed Gruberman
- dragonoffrost



Boot to the Head.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 3:51 PM ET
It's so simple that you have difficulty naming a player. What do you think it would cost, and for how many years to sign Eaves? If not Eaves, then who? Shouldn't be hard to answer, it's not difficult.
- MJL



Bonino jumps out at me as well. Justin Williams fits and can still play. I don't think any of those 3 would cost more than $3M max. Bonino would likely command a longer term at only 28.

But since we're in answering questions mode, how many goals are you inking in for Weal, Lindblom, Konecny, Weise, Laughton and Bellemare this year?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 26 @ 3:52 PM ET
Boot to the Head.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Dude has been told we are taking the patient draft and develop route.

Patience... yeah yeah how long is that gonna take?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 3:55 PM ET
Bonino jumps out at me as well. Justin Williams fits and can still play. I don't think any of those 3 would cost more than $3M max. Bonino would likely command a longer term at only 28.


- fls13


Bonino is a 3rd line center who will get overpaid. Where do you think Justin Williams is going to want to play next year? On a team that might make the playoffs, or on a team that has a chance to contend?
Unless it's on a one year deal for money the Flyers can fit in on the cap, signing a significant UFA to a multi year contract is a ridiculously bad idea for where the Flyers are now as a team.

How much for Eaves, and for how many years?



But since we're in answering questions mode, how many goals are you inking in for Weal, Lindblom, Konecny, Weise, Laughton and Bellemare this year?

- fls13


I wouldn't even think of predicting that.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 26 @ 3:55 PM ET
Bonino jumps out at me as well. Justin Williams fits and can still play. I don't think any of those 3 would cost more than $3M max. Bonino would likely command a longer term at only 28.

But since we're in answering questions mode, how many goals are you inking in for Weal, Lindblom, Konecny, Weise, Laughton and Bellemare this year?

- fls13


If Weal, Lindbolm and Konecny all get top 9 minutes and can play 75 games:

Weal : 15
Lindbolm :15-20
Konecny : 15 - 20

fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 3:58 PM ET
I wouldn't even think of predicting that.
- MJL


Of course not.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:00 PM ET
If Weal, Lindbolm and Konecny all get top 9 minutes and can play 75 games:

Weal : 15
Lindbolm :15-20
Konecny : 15 - 20

- dragonoffrost


They could use every bit of that. The guy I'm really not sold on is Weal. A .5 PPG guy over 20 games is not enough to convince me he can stick and produce.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:00 PM ET
Of course not.
- fls13



It's an exercise in futility. Who would've predicted the awful offensive season that Weise just had. Who would have predicted how poor of an offensive season Giroux just had
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:01 PM ET
They could use every bit of that. The guy I'm really not sold on is Weal. A .5 PPG guy over 20 games is not enough to convince me he can stick and produce.
- fls13



If Weal doesn't stick and produce, not much lost. Low risk.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:06 PM ET
They could use every bit of that. The guy I'm really not sold on is Weal. A .5 PPG guy over 20 games is not enough to convince me he can stick and produce.
- fls13


Yet you are convinced that turning our most dynamic defenseman into a left winger, a position he hasn't played in at least 8 years, will lead to good production?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:06 PM ET
It's an exercise in futility. Who would've predicted the awful offensive season that Weise just had. Who would have predicted how poor of an offensive season Giroux just had
- MJL


PLind
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:07 PM ET
If Weal doesn't stick and produce, not much lost. Low risk.
- MJL


Then somebody else needs to step up and produce. I suppose it's possible Read or Raffl could bounce back but no one should count on that either.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yet you are convinced that turning our most dynamic defenseman into a left winger, a position he hasn't played in at least 8 years, will lead to good production?
- jmatchett383


Did I say that? I said it's an option if the UFA/trade route comes up empty.

I see some folks here suggesting Gostisbehere get traded for help up front. Do you like that idea?
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Apr 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
PLind
- jmatchett383


Has he been hiding since the hire of Stevens?
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
It's so simple that you have difficulty naming a player. What do you think it would cost, and for how many years to sign Eaves? If not Eaves, then who? Shouldn't be hard to answer, it's not difficult.
- MJL


I think the problem with most people is they lack the knowledge of other players to pull a name out of thin air for who would be a good fit on the team. I know I am in that department.
johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 26 @ 4:21 PM ET
They could use every bit of that. The guy I'm really not sold on is Weal. A .5 PPG guy over 20 games is not enough to convince me he can stick and produce.
- fls13


15 goals and maybe 15 assists is not a .5 ppg player I'd say that is fairly conservative
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 4:23 PM ET
PLind
- jmatchett383


lol
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 4:24 PM ET
Did I say that? I said it's an option if the UFA/trade route comes up empty.

I see some folks here suggesting Gostisbehere get traded for help up front. Do you like that idea?

- fls13


I like it better than trying to convert him to wing.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
I think the problem with most people is they lack the knowledge of other players to pull a name out of thin air for who would be a good fit on the team. I know I am in that department.
- johm12


Speak for yourself. I know this team plenty well and the rest of the league and the game in general just fine. The only thing I recognize is I'm just a fan, it's not my full time job to know all the details of which UFA might want what. My opinion is the Flyers need one and posted a list of UFA forwards. I had no difficulty coming up with names I liked in that list and the criticisms (oh, they're so expensive, they're all over 35) had no basis in fact.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
15 goals and maybe 15 assists is not a .5 ppg player I'd say that is fairly conservative
- johm12


Weal = 12 pts in 23 games. 12 is 52.1739130434783% of 23.

johm12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IN
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
Weal = 12 pts in 23 games. 12 is 52.1739130434783% of 23.
- fls13


I am talking about this coming year...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
Did I say that? I said it's an option if the UFA/trade route comes up empty.

I see some folks here suggesting Gostisbehere get traded for help up front. Do you like that idea?

- fls13


I'm not a fan of that idea, but I like it better than trying to make him a winger.

For the record, yesterday, you said that converting him was option #2 after UFA, you never mentioned a trade so no, you didn't say that.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
I am talking about this coming year...
- johm12


If Weal can match that, I'd be doing cartwheels. I have doubts. He's also a UFA who needs to be resigned.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
Speak for yourself. I know this team plenty well and the rest of the league and the game in general just fine. The only thing I recognize is I'm just a fan, it's not my full time job to know all the details of which UFA might want what. My opinion is the Flyers need one and posted a list of UFA forwards. I had no difficulty coming up with names I liked in that list and the criticisms (oh, they're so expensive, they're all over 35) had no basis in fact.
- fls13


You don't believe that a player being over 35 is a fact?
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 26 @ 4:34 PM ET
I'm not a fan of that idea, but I like it better than trying to make him a winger.

For the record, yesterday, you said that converting him was option #2 after UFA, you never mentioned a trade so no, you didn't say that.

- jmatchett383


Fair enough. The trade market has a lot of variables we can only speculate on. How you use players you already have on your team is completely under your control.
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