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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:53 PM ET
Good for Marc-Andre Bourdon
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:59 PM ET
Well, that fight has already been fought in other sports and there is no more fight. If you don't have an analytics arm of your front office, regardless of sport, you're going to get dusted.

The problem comes from what to do with the data once you have it and what it means.

- johndewar


I agree, calling it a branding problem is ridiculous.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:09 PM ET
Not to be mean to Chayka, because he's about as close as it gets in the insular hockey world, but no, not in the sense that I meant. He is a young guy, with some background in stats and playing junior hockey, who worked for a data collection firm. When you say "analytics guy" -- I mean anyone can be that with some interest and experience and a connection. It's not a slight, they could use more guys like him and being a good GM goes a lot further than that. But hockey isn't exactly on the cutting edge with this stuff.....the Flyers chief analytics guy just did a 1 year online degree program before being hired. And who the hell knows if they even listen to him.

Chayka has a background in data collection and he is clearly open to and invested in it. But PSG was talking about the real nerds, I think. The guys who could go work for top financial firms or who have PhD in statistics and whatnot. Guys who could be at the forefront of other fields. You don't see Hinkie types in hockey.

- Mononoke


Chayka has more than just a background in stats. He developed and founded Stathletes, which is a company that does more than just track stats using data from games. They actually break down each game with video and track their own data. I wouldn't want a Phd nerd. I want a hockey guy who knows and understands data and analytics.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:08 PM ET
Good for Marc-Andre Bourdon
- ob18

HEY MAN, HOW ARE TRICKS?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:16 PM ET
Nice to know that 60% of our team is playing in Worlds and have so much more to give.
- Just5


#countrypride
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 25 @ 7:17 PM ET


- Just5


lol! frankin' Puddy
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 25 @ 8:26 PM ET
Wonder if they are just now realizing how bad Dustin Brown is too
- YuenglingJagr


Nah -- they knew. One of the reasons they stripped him of the captaincy. He played a bit better this season, but he finished last year on the third and fourth lines
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
Good for Marc-Andre Bourdon
- ob18



Agreed..Saw him as coming into his own a bit before the concussions.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 25 @ 8:48 PM ET
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:59 PM ET

- Mononoke


HA! I was just thinking about him today thinking it might get done after April 30th since that's when his KHL deal expires.....no need to wait I guess. Hopefully he can get on the red eye in time to watch the phantoms get swept
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 25 @ 9:04 PM ET
HA! I was just thinking about him today thinking it might get done after April 30th since that's when his KHL deal expires.....no need to wait I guess. Hopefully he can get on the red eye in time to watch the phantoms get swept
- Just5


Kidding aside, he's on Team Russia B right now doing World Championship warm-ups
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 9:12 PM ET
Ed Snider said a decade ago that the Flyers were losing money. You calling him a liar?
- mayorofangrytown


Andrew Macdonald is a top 3 defenseman
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM ET
On nhlnumbers.com what the heck is a UFA IV? Jordan Weal is one.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 25 @ 9:49 PM ET
On nhlnumbers.com what the heck is a UFA IV? Jordan Weal is one.
- jstross


http://www.wingingitinmot...cba-episode-3-free-agency

Any player 25 or older with at least three professional seasons who has not played in at least 80 NHL games (28 for goalies) becomes a UFA at the end of his contract. For this part, the definition of a professional season is pretty lenient. 11 games for 18-19 year olds and just one game played anywhere professionally counts for anybody over 20. It's nearly an unnecessary definition, since a guy with that much experience who is obviously not that wanted by the team isn't likely to draw the kind of salary which would bring draft pick compensation in, but it's a nice bit of a catch-all just to keep teams from being Richards to people like that.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 25 @ 10:22 PM ET
http://www.wingingitinmot...cba-episode-3-free-agency
- fls13


Interesting. Thanks.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 25 @ 10:23 PM ET
Not IRL! (frank)ing Eva Mendes......

But yes his character Sebastian is available. I had promised it to Toby Flenderson, but just between us, he is no Sebastian. I should tell you now though: I already am playing the Emma Stone role. I don't want to make things awkward.

- Mononoke

This hurts.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 26 @ 8:06 AM ET
This hurts.
- TobyFlenderson

it was just between us
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