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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
Only 103 players scored 50 or more points last year.

Not every player, even good ones, end up getting 50+ points...

- Scabeh



Fair enough, but that's not to say in 3-5 years that they won't get 50+ points
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 25 @ 10:24 AM ET
Manson is exactly what we need - he's litterally 99.9th percentile in shot suppression ability in the league amongst D. He plays very well with Lindholm, and would look great alongside either Rielly or Gards.

Fun fact - Shattenkirk is 95th percentile in shot suppression.

If we could get both and run something like this:

Rielly - Shat
Gardiner - Manson
Warm body - Zaitsev

...then we would be absolutely (frank)ing set on D.

- lumlums


I have no interest in Shat at 7 million for 6 or 7 years. No way.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
sign Jumbo Joe if hes is healthy and trade Bozak for some D help (Marincin out)
Lou can also figure out how to get Kovalchuk from NJ.

Sign another D to replace Polak

win cups

- senstroll


thornton might be a little slow to play with jvr and marner....definitely wouldn't give him more than 1 year.

i'm not opposed to kovalchuk. 2 years, 6M.

i say offer sheet schmidt from Wash. should only cost a 2nd/3rd round pick for a $2Mish contract.
bazookajo
Joined: 06.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
sign Jumbo Joe if hes is healthy and trade Bozak for some D help (Marincin out)
Lou can also figure out how to get Kovalchuk from NJ.

Sign another D to replace Polak

win cups

- senstroll

I would rather see Salming make a come back and play D than ever see Marincin again
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
thornton might be a little slow to play with jvr and marner....definitely wouldn't give him more than 1 year.

i'm not opposed to kovalchuk. 2 years, 6M.

i say offer sheet schmidt from Wash. should only cost a 2nd/3rd round pick for a $2Mish contract.

- Tumbleweed


Yeah good luck with that
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fair enough, but that's not to say in 3-5 years that they won't get 50+ points
- PatC80


but next year neither will replace JVR's offense.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah good luck with that
- Matthews_Auston


what do you think he gets?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
I have faith in Lou Lams and the Shanaplan.

Also, I want to learn an instrument and start a band with that name.
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Apr 25 @ 10:27 AM ET
Thornton needs both ACL and MCL operations.

I think he just might retire.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
what do you think he gets?
- Tumbleweed



Since NJ has to sign him first and then they can trade him.

I'd guess 3 yr, deal at $17.5M
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
what do you think he gets?
- Tumbleweed

He's gonna sign a 1-year with Jersey so he has his pick of teams next summer.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 10:29 AM ET
thornton might be a little slow to play with jvr and marner....definitely wouldn't give him more than 1 year.

i'm not opposed to kovalchuk. 2 years, 6M.

i say offer sheet schmidt from Wash. should only cost a 2nd/3rd round pick for a $2Mish contract.

- Tumbleweed


I think Joe would be fine, provided he is back to 100%

He is a good player and doesnt have to be zipping around the ice like a water bug to be effective

Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
Since NJ has to sign him first and then they can trade him.

I'd guess 3 yr, deal at $17.5M

- PatC80


If he goes back to NJ doesn't he get his salary from the contract he signed there?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
If he goes back to NJ doesn't he get his salary from the contract he signed there?
- Matthews_Auston


no. he signs a new contract.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
He's gonna sign a 1-year with Jersey so he has his pick of teams next summer.
- Feeling Glucky?


I could see the Devils trying to stick it to him, so to speak. After the B.S stunt he pulled.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:31 AM ET
If he goes back to NJ doesn't he get his salary from the contract he signed there?
- Matthews_Auston



new contract, him retiring voided that other contract
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Apr 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
I think Joe would be fine, provided he is back to 100%

He is a good player and doesnt have to be zipping around the ice like a water bug to be effective

- senstroll


He's a 40 ish year old with a torn ACL - for a guy his age that's probably a 12 month post-op recovery. He's done.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Apr 25 @ 10:34 AM ET
Thornton needs both ACL and MCL operations.

I think he just might retire.

- jimi james


fyi you don't typically operate on MCL injuries. ACL, yes.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
On the flip side, it's unlikely Andersen starts the year as bad as he did last year, and if they re-sign Mac, then a back-up start won't be an automatic L.
- Feeling Glucky?

That is true as well.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
He's a 40 ish year old with a torn ACL - for a guy his age that's probably a 12 month post-op recovery. He's done.
- fifty__missions


You could expect his goals total to be cut in half.

Which makes it like.... 3 goals in a season! (2 of them empty netters).
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
I have no interest in Shat at 7 million for 6 or 7 years. No way.
- Matthews_Auston


I'd prefer less, but sometime you have to give up more, whether in cash or in assets, in order to make it happen.

Plus a successful Leafs = significantly more hockey-related revenue for the league = Higher salary cap to fit in guys like Shat...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
sign Jumbo Joe if hes is healthy and trade Bozak for some D help (Marincin out)
Lou can also figure out how to get Kovalchuk from NJ.

Sign another D to replace Polak

win cups

- senstroll

No to joe....
Hell no to kovulchuk
Hell yes to getting rid of marincin
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
Thornton needs both ACL and MCL operations.

I think he just might retire.

- jimi james

Doubt it.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
I'd prefer less, but sometime you have to give up more, whether in cash or in assets, in order to make it happen.

Plus a successful Leafs = significantly more hockey-related revenue for the league = Higher salary cap to fit in guys like Shat...

- lumlums


How are the Leafs supposed to make more money when they were already sold out and selling plenty of jerseys while sucking for the last 10 years?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 25 @ 10:38 AM ET
You could expect his goals total to be cut in half.

Which makes it like.... 3 goals in a season! (2 of them empty netters).

- Scabeh




Yeah, he's never been an outstanding goalscorer.... but he can make everyone at the ice play at his speed and control play as well as anybody in the past decade not named Crosby.
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