Matthews + Nylander 4 ever

They are good at passing to each other.

Matthews is good in tight.

Nylander has a hell of a shot.


I don't know what games you guys were watching but the ones I watched where they played together, they combined for a good number of points.
- TheMussel

The chemistry between those two is obvious. Compliment each other very well. And both are skilled enough to make plays with one and other.

Or that stupid dreamy Justin Williams
- TheMussel

I don't know if he has that same kinda disruptive capability as Wilson... but I'd definitely take him on the Leafs... coulda used him in those OTs

People trying to trade kids off this team need to stop. Kapanen for a Dman wont happen unless they're both at the same level, in years, salary and potential. Even then, there's easier trades to be made.

You forget JVR is coming off a 4.5 mil deal and will command 6-7 mil/yr, and there's little chance Toronto can afford that contract after having to renew Matthews and Marner.

Kapanen will fill in the gap left over by JvR once he moves on, and he'll make an excellent 2nd line player who can shift up to the 1st, with a few years under his belt.

On the rare chance JvR signs here for 6 mil/yr, then you might be able to discuss Kapanen or Brown moving on. As it currently stands, those 2 are almost assured not to be moved just on their cheap contracts alone.

They both are 50 point players on a 2nd line, at the start of their development, Brown a bit less so. Dare I say, Kapanen has better hands, but its arguable.

Bozak I would be shocked if he gets traded. He's defensively responsible and clutch on faceoffs. I'd only see him moved if Boyle is retained.

On that note, I do hope we can keep Boyle as he's an a great mix of character, skill and size, for the younger guys to look up to.

Should be a fun off season.
- Buggy166

Sorry, when did they score 50 pts in the NHL?

Sorry, when did they score 50 pts in the NHL?
- Fakepartofme

saw this yesterday - it's like Kessel the 40 goal scorer

Or that stupid dreamy Justin Williams
- TheMussel

Or that always stupid and dangerous Oshie

Sorry, when did they score 50 pts in the NHL?
- Fakepartofme

Matthews + Nylander 4 ever

Matthews is good and tight.

- TheMussel

Sorry, when did they score 50 pts in the NHL?
- Fakepartofme

think it was implied that they have the potential to score 50 points. They are/were both rookies

think it was implied that they have the potential to score 50 points. They are/were both rookies
- PatC80

Only 103 players scored 50 or more points last year.

Not every player, even good ones, end up getting 50+ points...

Its JVR plus for a top D....maybe more.
JVR has one year left...no one is trading a young top 4 dman for a winger with one year left on his contract.

unless.

He can confirm they can lock him up immediately.

Also, there are about 3 teams who have D to spare...and about 14 teams looking for D.
could jack up prices.

but I agree...Nylander for Trouba

Just kidding.

Marner for Trouba

Ok fine...Kap, a 1st rounder, Dermott for someone.

Its JVR plus for a top D....maybe more.
JVR has one year left...no one is trading a young top 4 dman for a winger with one year left on his contract.

unless.

He can confirm they can lock him up immediately.

Also, there are about 3 teams who have D to spare...and about 14 teams looking for D.
could jack up prices.

but I agree...Nylander for Trouba

Just kidding.

Marner for Trouba

Ok fine...Kap, a 1st rounder, Dermott for someone.


- Fakepartofme

Insane how he'd be exactly what Toronto needs.

It'll be interesting to see how contract negociations go for him next year.

Also to, people should be open to the idea that the team could regress a bit.
I mean all three main rookies had record years.
Kadri had a career year
Bozak and JVR had career years
Barely any major injuries.

Although I dont see the three kids having a sophomore slumps...they are simply too good.

who knows.

Insane how he'd be exactly what Toronto needs.

It'll be interesting to see how contract negociations go for him next year.
- Scabeh

He totally is.
One of the best options.

But, he cost a fortune and the Peg might not be willing to trade him.

What about Josh Morrissey?

Also to, people should be open to the idea that the team could regress a bit.
I mean all three main rookies had record years.
Kadri had a career year
Bozak and JVR had career years
Barely any major injuries.

Although I dont see the three kids having a sophomore slumps...they are simply too good.

who knows.
- Fakepartofme

for sure..not so much regression, but now the league will know how to play these new kids...especially Marner, who really needs to add some weight or he will get checked allot off the puck.

He totally is.
One of the best options.

But, he cost a fortune and the Peg might not be willing to trade him.

What about Josh Morrissey?
- Fakepartofme

What about Tyler Myers.

He totally is.
One of the best options.

But, he cost a fortune and the Peg might not be willing to trade him.

What about Josh Morrissey?
- Fakepartofme

I think Manson is what we really need. Good defender with size that plays with an edge and not afraid to drip the gloves. We need some tough on the blue line. Sick of guys running Freddie.

for sure..not so much regression, but now the league will know how to play these new kids...especially Marner, who really needs to add some weight or he will get checked allot off the puck.
- bazookajo

Yes.
I dont think we should expect the players to improve greatly on their individual stats.

but ya Marner, yeesh....get a little physical with the guy, and he wasnt effective. He'd bounce back up, so good on him...but wasnt on his game.

I think Manson is what we really need. Good defender with size that plays with an edge and not afraid to drip the gloves. We need some tough on the blue line. Sick of guys running Freddie.
- Matthews_Auston

Josh Manson?
Ya someone mentioned him before....I havent seen much of him...so I really cant say much about him.
But I heard, he's a stay at home, and can move the puck out of our zone. Is this correct?
would be what we need.

I think Manson is what we really need. Good defender with size that plays with an edge and not afraid to drip the gloves. We need some tough on the blue line. Sick of guys running Freddie.
- Matthews_Auston

I think nobody on here has said it wouldn't be a good idea to get Manson..
So if we ALL agree, it seems it will be tough to get him..
(has there once been any player that ALL thought would be a good addition for the Leafs?)

I am aware that Nylander is >>> Hyman.

I wouldn't be surprised however if Hyman has more primary assists than Nylander on Matthews 5v5 goals.

Babcock seems to like Hyman on Matthews line, so unless Leafs go out and acquire a guy like Landeskog, it seems he's there to stay as his LW.
Nylander with his defensive play still needing some improvement - it will improve for sure - has Matthews sometimes a bit too defense-first minded..

And I thought it was clear that Babcock is looking at Nylander as a future C, so from that perspective, eventually he'll come of his wing. (Rychel - Nylander - Kapanen? or Hyman - Nylander - Kapanen?).
- MaximusAurelius

I think you're right that Hyman has slightly higher Primary assists than Nylander, but Nylander has a much higher rate of primary points than Hyman. And this in itself is my biggest issue with Hyman - he has a very poor goalscoring ability relative to his role. I'm more concerned with putting somebody with Matthews who can finish Matthews' passes than I am with someone setting up Matthews, because AM34 is good enough to create his own, but would likely have 10+ points more if he had someone who had more of a scoring touch on his left.

Also to, people should be open to the idea that the team could regress a bit.
I mean all three main rookies had record years.
Kadri had a career year
Bozak and JVR had career years
Barely any major injuries.

Although I dont see the three kids having a sophomore slumps...they are simply too good.

who knows.
- Fakepartofme

On the flip side, it's unlikely Andersen starts the year as bad as he did last year, and if they re-sign Mac, then a back-up start won't be an automatic L.

sign Jumbo Joe if hes is healthy and trade Bozak for some D help (Marincin out)
Lou can also figure out how to get Kovalchuk from NJ.

Sign another D to replace Polak

win cups

Josh Manson?
Ya someone mentioned him before....I havent seen much of him...so I really cant say much about him.
But I heard, he's a stay at home, and can move the puck out of our zone. Is this correct?
would be what we need.
- Fakepartofme

Manson is exactly what we need - he's litterally 99.9th percentile in shot suppression ability in the league amongst D. He plays very well with Lindholm, and would look great alongside either Rielly or Gards.

Fun fact - Shattenkirk is 95th percentile in shot suppression.

If we could get both and run something like this:

Rielly - Shat
Gardiner - Manson
Warm body - Zaitsev

...then we would be absolutely (frank)ing set on D.

I think nobody on here has said it wouldn't be a good idea to get Manson..
So if we ALL agree, it seems it will be tough to get him..
(has there once been any player that ALL thought would be a good addition for the Leafs?)
- MaximusAurelius

I hope we can improve our defence but at the same time we are still in the middle of a rebuild. I don't want them to start trading all our draft picks or our young kids like we have in the past. Buffalo tried to accelerate their rebuild after they got Eichel and look at them now. Total lack of prospects coming up.

I know we have to give to receive so it's going to be very interesting this summer.

I think nobody on here has said it wouldn't be a good idea to get Manson..
So if we ALL agree, it seems it will be tough to get him..
(has there once been any player that ALL thought would be a good addition for the Leafs?)
- MaximusAurelius

I seem to remember everyone wanting Brad Richards back in the day...