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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
Honest answer: I don't know.

Simmonds is an odd player in a couple respects. He is wickedly fast, but only in a straight line. He doesnt move laterally well at all. (Have you ever seen one of his breakaways? Hilarious). He's one of the best net front guys in the league, which he needs to be because he doesnt have much of a wrist shot. He was used on the PK last year.. was so-so at it. He's not huge, but he's really tough to knock off the puck, and to move from the front of the net. He doesnt really create his own chances, but he definitely is a finisher.

I really don't know what his value is in terms of assets coming back. I do know that a lot of the armchair GM's on the Flyers board are hot to trade Voracek, Giroux, and Simmonds... tank... and draft McDavid, Eichel, AND Matthews.

- Doc_Sarcasm




Sounds like a great plan though.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
They're all Meh. Pacioretty scores goals. Radulov got 18. Lekhonen too early to tell and Paul Byron?.
- walshyleafsfan


Pacioretty is one of the best goal scorers in the game. Radulov drives the play and is amazing.

Lekhonen, in a first season after coming from europe, just scored 18 goals with no powerplay time and average 13 min per game.... things are looking good for him.

Galchenyuk and Gallagher had bad years all around, they need to bounce back.

And I told you, I'm not saying Paul Byron is amazing, I'm just saying he scored 22 goals and deserves credit for it.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:44 PM ET
What would JVR at 50% retained bring back?

2.2 mil for a 30 ish goalscorer. Should interest a few teams

- walshyleafsfan


similar to what lucic brought back at 50% retained is my guess.

Martin Jones, Colin Miller and a 1st round pick.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Apr 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
similar to what lucic brought back at 50% retained is my guess.

Josh Manson, Jacob Larsson and a 1st round pick.

- Tumbleweed

Woah

I hope you're right
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Zaitzev wasn't cleared to play for team Russia because of his concussion...he played injured in the playoffs and this confirmed it
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
similar to what lucic brought back at 50% retained is my guess.

Martin Jones, Colin Miller and a 1st round pick.

- Tumbleweed

Done.

Then draft Foote, Hague or Brannstrom.

And sign Stone as a UFA.

Peasy easy
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Apr 25 @ 3:32 PM ET
similar to what lucic brought back at 50% retained is my guess.

Martin Jones, Colin Miller and a 1st round pick.

- Tumbleweed




Good luck with that
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
...He's not the first pairing defenseman you're looking for.
- Scabeh


Obi Wan?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
Obi Wan?
- The Shrike


Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time.....
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Apr 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time.....
- Scabeh


I wonder if she means ol' Ben.... Smith
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
Hold on...

So are we re-signing him or resigning him?

So confused.

- TheMussel



yup a fn sign as you pass the ACC on the Gardner express way.


zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 25 @ 3:52 PM ET
Hey guys, only one more season of Gleason buyout




- TheMussel



and on Lupul's contract.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 25 @ 3:56 PM ET
I wouldn't give him 6M.

I wouldn't want him on my team.

He's not the first pairing defenseman you're looking for.

- Scabeh



nice jedi mind trick.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 3:57 PM ET


Good luck with that

- Matthews_Auston


martin jones was a backup at the time and the kings were likely to lose him to an offer sheet if they didn't move him. so they had to move him.

collin miller was a b-prospect.

so the idea of josh manson, a number 4 guy who is getting squeezed from the top (vatanane/fowler/lindholm) and the bottom (montour/theodore) and who the ducks are likely to lose in the expansion draft, a b-prospect and a 1st isn't that far off imo.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
Woah

I hope you're right

- PlatosRepucklic


manson, 1st and a lower tier prospect is my guess for value.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 25 @ 3:59 PM ET
martin jones was a backup at the time and the kings were likely to lose him to an offer sheet if they didn't move him. so they had to move him.

collin miller was a b-prospect.

so the idea of josh manson, a number 4 guy who is getting squeezed from the top (vatanane/fowler/lindholm) and the bottom (montour/theore) and who the ducks are likely to lose expansion draft, a b-prospect and a 1st isn't that far off imo.

- Tumbleweed


except Manson will surely pan out to be the 2nd best D-man of those 4 (after Lindholm).

EDIT:

JVR for Manson, and we'll like it.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
except Manson will surely pan out to be the 2nd best D-man of those 4 (after Lindholm).

EDIT:

JVR for Manson, and we'll like it.

- MaximusAurelius


they are all 25, and manson who is not better now, and who has no offensive upside, will be better than fowler and vatatnen?

Manson is steady stay at home dman. Nothing more.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Apr 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
they are all 25, and manson who is not better now, and who has no offensive upside, will be better than fowler and vatatnen?

Manson is steady stay at home dman. Nothing more.

- Tumbleweed


Trade for Vatanen, draft Heiskanen, rebuild complete
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Apr 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
Trade for Vatanen, draft Heiskanen, rebuild complete
- TheMussel

We need to trade Laich now for a 2nd rounder, before he walks as a free agent.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 25 @ 4:20 PM ET
they are all 25, and manson who is not better now, and who has no offensive upside, will be better than fowler and vatatnen?

Manson is steady stay at home dman. Nothing more.

- Tumbleweed


Manson is a stay at home d-man that can skate and get the puck out of the zone decently.

Leafs need that more than anything else.
He'll complement Rielly perfectly, and it would mean that Leafs would have a very decent top pair in Rielly - Manson.

I doubt Ducks would accept to trade Manson just for JVR by the way.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Apr 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
Kapper to the marlies
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 4:27 PM ET
Price told the media yesterday that he understands his contract will affect the team's capacity to bring in other good players and that negociations will take that into account.


He's awesome.

- Scabeh


it's so cute that you believed that. He isn't taking off 5 milion a year. More like 100K a year.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 25 @ 4:29 PM ET
Manson is a stay at home d-man that can skate and get the puck out of the zone decently.

Leafs need that more than anything else.
He'll complement Rielly perfectly, and it would mean that Leafs would have a very decent top pair in Rielly - Manson.

I doubt Ducks would accept to trade Manson just for JVR by the way.

- MaximusAurelius


the offer was jvr @ 50% retained.

so, the 25 year-old guy who is 4/5 on the ducks depth chart > jvr for trade value. got it.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 25 @ 4:31 PM ET
giving us one of hunter/dubas, obviously



.....please?

- Sabresfan-365


Unfortunately some people might not want to go there as long as that ownership is in place. The Pegulas are turning out to be a bit of a gong show at this point.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Apr 25 @ 4:40 PM ET
manson, 1st and a lower tier prospect is my guess for value.
- Tumbleweed

I like this
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