A pick in the 20-30 range could be much worse than drafting Darnell Nurse 2.0.

But I get what you're saying. I think he's good enough to become a solid top 4 guy in the NHL.

He's already 6"3 too...
- Scabeh

But once he straps on that Habs jersey he'll be a solid 5'9...

But once he straps on that Habs jersey he'll be a solid 5'9...
- lumlums

C'mon, jersey's aren't the thing that they strap on in the Habs dressing room.

Any comparables to him in style?
- lumlums

Everybody keeps comparing him to Karlsson, but that's a poopface comp.

Skates like Gardiner and thinks like Letang.

C'mon, jersey's aren't the thing that they strap on in the Habs dressing room.
- TheMussel

Everybody keeps comparing him to Karlsson, but that's a poopface comp.

Skates like Gardiner and thinks like Letang.
- AdamFrench

Cool. Sounds like a good pick in that spot. Between Vuori and Bergman, they'll be able to pick out any diamonds in the rough from Scandinavia

They should probably go with a Finnish guy
- TheMussel

Hey aren't there only like 5 Finnish Defensemen in the NHL right now?

Everybody keeps comparing him to Karlsson, but that's a poopface comp.

Skates like Gardiner and thinks like Letang.
- AdamFrench

So how would you rank Barnstrom, Foote and Hague?

Hey aren't there only like 5 Finnish Defensemen in the NHL right now?
- PlatosRepucklic

And that's if you're generous enough to call Ristolainen a defenseman...

And that's if you're generous enough to call Ristolainen a defenseman...
- lumlums

So how would you rank Barnstrom, Foote and Hague?
- Matthews_Auston

1. 3. 2.

1. 3. 2.
- AdamFrench

I know Foote and Hague are big. How about Branstrom?

1. 3. 2.
- AdamFrench

Based on seeing none of them play ever and only reading scouting reports and looking at stats...i'm all aboard the Hague train!

I know Foote and Hague are big. How about Branstrom?
- Matthews_Auston

5'11

5'11
- RickJames77

Maybe on skates.

If applicable:

James Mirtle‏ @mirtle 3m3 minutes ago

Polak says he'll be fine in time for next season.


James Mirtle @mirtle 27s27 seconds ago

Polak said he immediately told the trainer "it's broken" when he was on the ice. "I felt it crack."

Maybe on skates.
- AdamFrench

meh, thought that was what I read somewhere

meh, thought that was what I read somewhere
- RickJames77

That's his official listing on hockey db if I recall...

Mr. French,

You never answered my questions:

- Which of Valimaki, Foote or Hague would be the best fit for Toronto?

- Knowing the Leafs with be drafting 17th or 18th, are there any potential high ranked studs that could fall to the Leafs?
- As_I_See_It

I would take Hague.
He's a big dude, with a mean streak, and he's +22, just like another Leafs D-man.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=179662

I would take Hague.
He's a big dude, with a mean streak, and he's +22, just like another Leafs D-man.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=179662
- Climuster

I agree. I have seen Hague play 3 or 4 games this year and the guy is a player. He's big, he's tough and he can skate very well for a guy that big. I think he would be a Leaf by 2020.

That's his official listing on hockey db if I recall...
- lumlums

marner is listed at 6' on there

Yes.
I dont think we should expect the players to improve greatly on their individual stats.

but ya Marner, yeesh....get a little physical with the guy, and he wasnt effective. He'd bounce back up, so good on him...but wasnt on his game.
- Fakepartofme

I really gotta give Marner a pass on that series. I don't think he was quite as bad as everyone makes him out to be. It is going to be another couple years before we see the full potential there.

marner is listed at 6' on there
- Tumbleweed

Was that taken on a thursday night in Owen Sound?

McDavid was -24 in his first year with Erie.


With this in mind, can we please stop using +/- when trying to have a reasonable hockey debate?

I might get one.

But I'll get a Laine jersey first.

- Scabeh

I think you should probably go ahead and get the Matthews jersey, but make sure you take a good look at the Laine jersey first.

I think you should probably go ahead and get the Matthews jersey, but make sure you take a good look at the Laine jersey first.
- Aetherial

I think he should buy the Matthews jersey but the laine jersey is better.