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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 25 @ 1:58 PM ET
At least Willie had some experience as an assistant with Dallas.
I don't have anything really against Travis Green, but I would have preferred we bring in a coach with experience (Todd Reirden would have been my first choice) and have TG as an assistant.

I know we aren't in a win now mode, or shouldn't expect to be. I just think that when it all turns to crap by the end of next season, that JB's head will be on the block. And he has been the best at trading and drafting for the Canucks since Pat Quinn.

- we_are_all_canucks

the difference is the canucks have had to look at green the last 4 years. They know what he brings well.

Its possible someone comes in as an assistant that has lots of experience
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 25 @ 2:00 PM ET


I'm just feeling a little pessimism.

Coaching change is going to have minimal impact. Green is going to feel the pressure to win games and we will see more head scratchers.

and expecting the worst with the lotto. just hoping JB can pick a top line fwd or dman.

Bo isn't going anywhere, we will see him get a bit better and the debate will be whether he is a 1st or 2nd line centre.

- hillbillydeluxe


Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 2:01 PM ET
thats fine, I wasnt a Willie fan by any means. I just question his employers, their plan and their motives more than anything
- WhiteLie

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 25 @ 2:02 PM ET
Like I said initially, it really doesn't matter because this team is going to be dreadful for the next few seasons. I am actually more concerned about rushing prospects. Not happy about Dahlen getting an AHL out-clause, either.
- Marwood


mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Apr 25 @ 2:03 PM ET
Like I said initially, it really doesn't matter because this team is going to be dreadful for the next few seasons. I am actually more concerned about rushing prospects. Not happy about Dahlen getting an AHL out-clause, either.
- Marwood

That is my main concern. It has already failed this team a couple times, I would much rather over cook them in the AHL/SHL then have them on the team unless 100% ready.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 25 @ 2:05 PM ET

- DrChristianTroy


we won't have a 1st line next season or it will still be the Sedins?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 2:07 PM ET
That is my main concern. It has already failed this team a couple times, I would much rather over cook them in the AHL/SHL then have them on the team unless 100% ready.
- mauryballstein




I am interested to see what Green does with his lineups when he has first choice of players, as opposed to Utica leftovers. It might not end up being the rookie free-for-all that we are worried about
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 25 @ 2:08 PM ET
we won't have a 1st line next season or it will still be the Sedins?
- hillbillydeluxe

They will be playing hard for an extension.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:10 PM ET
Like I said initially, it really doesn't matter because this team is going to be dreadful for the next few seasons. I am actually more concerned about rushing prospects. Not happy about Dahlen getting an AHL out-clause, either.
- Marwood

exactly, it doesn't really matter. I don't personally see an issue with the AHL out-clause. I am sure Benning will try to send Dahlen to the AHL and if he doesn't accept? Well, he can go play in the SEL which would be great for his development as well. Dahlen is a long shot to make the Canucks and I am not convinced playing in Utica with grinders is better for his development than the SEL.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
Name one thing Willie did, besides being forced due to injuries to play them, that actually contributed to the improvement of any of these players.
- YeOldTimer

exactly
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 25 @ 2:11 PM ET
we won't have a 1st line next season or it will still be the Sedins?
- hillbillydeluxe


We won't have one.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:11 PM ET

- DrChristianTroy

It's ok, we can grab Heiskanen at 33rd have you seen McCag's list he has him going 3rd overall.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 2:12 PM ET
exactly, it doesn't really matter. I don't personally see an issue with the AHL out-clause. I am sure Benning will try to send Dahlen to the AHL and if he doesn't accept? Well, he can go play in the SEL which would be great for his development as well. Dahlen is a long shot to make the Canucks and I am not convinced playing in Utica with grinders is better for his development than the SEL.
- CanuckDon

Learning the game over in NA is better then learning how to play over in Europe.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 25 @ 2:13 PM ET

So you're advocating vociferously to rotate prospects up and down... just so that you can see them play?

Sounds like a good developmental strategy to me, I'm onboard.

- Pres.cup


Didn't want to write a novel on all the reasons why but another concern that I have is the team having too many of these young players on the nhl roster instead of in AHL where most of them should be, this way they would have a spot or 2 open for some of these young players that deserve the chance at some nhl time.

I am open to almost any type of strategy that is different from what has been tried with Jake, Hutton etc. Stop gifting players nhl ice time.

Just spit balling
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
Learning the game over in NA is better then learning how to play over in Europe.
- manvanfan

hmmm. sounds like a fact
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
It's ok, we can grab Heiskanen at 33rd have you seen McCag's list he has him going 3rd overall.
- CanuckDon

He gets love in some drafts and not in others.

Juuso Valimaki is almost forgotten about because he was too old to play on Finland this year at the u18s. 61 points in 60 games this year is pretty good.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 25 @ 2:16 PM ET
hmmm. sounds like a fact
- CanuckDon

Filip Forsberg had to play half a season in the AHL. Fact.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:17 PM ET

- Marwood


Flagged for bolding and approving a message regarding coaching. I see what you're trying to do.....
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Apr 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's ok, we can grab Heiskanen at 33rd have you seen McCag's list he has him going 3rd overall.
- CanuckDon

Saturday will have a huge impact this year on who goes where. If buffalo, dallas, peg, etc are picking 3rd you can consider Heiskanen or Makar off the board.
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
exactly, it doesn't really matter. I don't personally see an issue with the AHL out-clause. I am sure Benning will try to send Dahlen to the AHL and if he doesn't accept? Well, he can go play in the SEL which would be great for his development as well. Dahlen is a long shot to make the Canucks and I am not convinced playing in Utica with grinders is better for his development than the SEL.
- CanuckDon



I'd like to see him mirror Filip Forsberg's path and do the AHL thing, but I wont be against the SEL
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
They will be playing hard for an extension.
- Marwood



Contract year! Statistically id's usually an up year for points.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
He gets love in some drafts and not in others.

Juuso Valimaki is almost forgotten about because he was too old to play on Finland this year at the u18s. 61 points in 60 games this year is pretty good.

- manvanfan

The Finns and Americans are taking over hockey
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
It's ok, we can grab Heiskanen at 33rd have you seen McCag's list he has him going 3rd overall.
- CanuckDon


No, who? Where did he have Liljegren?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
Saturday will have a huge impact this year on who goes where. If buffalo, dallas, peg, etc are picking 3rd you can consider Heiskanen or Makar off the board.
- mauryballstein

agreed...McCag has Patrick going 5th which is a stretch but I wouldn't be surprised if he slips a couple spots. one of the D will go in the top 3 I think. We will get our center no matter where we are picking
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 25 @ 2:22 PM ET

I'd like to see him mirror Filip Forsberg's path and do the AHL thing, but I wont be against the SEL

- WhiteLie

selfishly I'd like that as well but I can understand if he wants to play in Sweden.
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