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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
I'm going to make one more civil request, that you trolls leave the thread immediately.

This is not for Pens fans talking about Mario Lemieux. senatards fanboiz talking about karlson.

This is for Bolts fans to talk about Hedman.


Let's proceed.

Hedman - rate of production - points per 60 minutes of play - 2.23 rank - 1st in the NHL among defenseman.

relative to team - +1.34 - 4th in the NHL.

Very impressive. This makes him neck in the neck with the best offensive performances in the NHL this year.

Incredible dman. Really does it all. And does it all WELL!!!!

- prock


So get the (frank) out.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
So get the (frank) out.
- j.boyd919



Why? I am a fan of the Bolts.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
So get the (frank) out.
- j.boyd919


Exactly!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Why? I am a fan of the Bolts.
- prock


Says predators. Don't lie. Troll.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
Says predators. Don't lie. Troll.
- j.boyd919



Well I am a fan of many teams, including:

The Tampa Bay Lightning
The Anaheim Ducks
The Edmonton Oilers
The Nashville Predators
The Toronto Maple Leafs
The Boston Bruins
The Los Angeles Kings


As my wife is a Habs fan, I am forced to have some fandom towards them, although deep down in side, I don't really like them.


The rest of the teams in the NHL, I have either no real disposition to either way, or in some cases, do not particularly like. Like the Philadelphia Flyers. But I don't feel this is an appropriate place to discuss my feelings on the Flyers.

I'd rather keep on topic, and discuss Hedman, who has elevated his game, and is now arguably the best dman in the league, with Doughty having a down season.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 25 @ 3:06 PM ET
Well I am a fan of many teams, including:

The Tampa Bay Lightning
The Anaheim Ducks
The Edmonton Oilers
The Nashville Predators
The Toronto Maple Leafs
The Boston Bruins
The Los Angeles Kings


As my wife is a Habs fan, I am forced to have some fandom towards them, although deep down in side, I don't really like them.


The rest of the teams in the NHL, I have either no real disposition to either way, or in some cases, do not particularly like. Like the Philadelphia Flyers. But I don't feel this is an appropriate place to discuss my feelings on the Flyers.

I'd rather keep on topic, and discuss Hedman, who has elevated his game, and is now arguably the best dman in the league, with Doughty having a down season.

- prock

I'm going to go ahead and recommend that you delete your account.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 25 @ 3:07 PM ET
I'm going to go ahead and recommend that you delete your account.
- Feds91Stammer

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
I'm going to go ahead and recommend that you delete your account.
- Feds91Stammer



I'm going to go ahead and report you.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
Beat it trolls!

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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'm going to go ahead and recommend that you delete your account.
- Feds91Stammer


I third that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
Awesome article about all the best dmen in the game discussing each other.

https://www.pressreader.c.../20170129/283613874883624
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'm going to go ahead and report you.
- prock

MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Apr 25 @ 5:41 PM ET
Burns Hedman Karlsson imho
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 5:44 PM ET
Burns Hedman Karlsson imho
- MR.Hunter



Careful, you're about to get trolled.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Apr 25 @ 7:03 PM ET
Burns Hedman Karlsson imho
- MR.Hunter

Karlsson, Hedman, Burns.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 7:11 PM ET
Burns Hedman Karlsson imho
- MR.Hunter



told you the trolls were on their way.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 25 @ 7:27 PM ET
Hedman and Karlsson are now almost the same player.

In the past, Hedman was much better defensively than Karlsson. As was mentioned already, Karlsson has been improving his defensive game and it shows.

Now, I would rank them almost the same. Hedman has improved offensively and Karlsson defensively, but they are both big, fast, talented, Swedes. I just wish both of them would throw the body around a bit more.

Of course I am going to root for Hedman for the Norris, but really, either Hedman or Karlsson is a better pick than Burns.

Burns has that awesome beard and gaudy goal numbers, so he is probably going to win. That beard is mesmerizing and the voters are going to be blinded by it's hirsute glory.

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 9:43 PM ET
Hedman and Karlsson are now almost the same player.

In the past, Hedman was much better defensively than Karlsson. As was mentioned already, Karlsson has been improving his defensive game and it shows.

Now, I would rank them almost the same. Hedman has improved offensively and Karlsson defensively, but they are both big, fast, talented, Swedes. I just wish both of them would throw the body around a bit more.

Of course I am going to root for Hedman for the Norris, but really, either Hedman or Karlsson is a better pick than Burns.

Burns has that awesome beard and gaudy goal numbers, so he is probably going to win. That beard is mesmerizing and the voters are going to be blinded by it's hirsute glory.

- GalacticStone


the NHL average size for a dman is 6 foot 2 if I recall.

I suggest you look up the heights and weights of the players you speak of before commenting on their size, and them being big or not.

no reason really, just saying. fact checks are good right?
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
I was out of the office at a vendor for my company and the lady is a huge Lightning fan which was great but all she talked about was resigning Brian Boyle and how it has to happen.

What is the fascination of resigning Brian Boyle with a lot of Lightning fans. He would be a fourth line center with a little bit of scoring and will probably be looking for 3M+ over 3-4 year deal. I like Boyle but the Yzerman would be a fool to bring him back at a raise with the more pressing needs they currently have.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
I was out of the office at a vendor for my company and the lady is a huge Lightning fan which was great but all she talked about was resigning Brian Boyle and how it has to happen.

What is the fascination of resigning Brian Boyle with a lot of Lightning fans. He would be a fourth line center with a little bit of scoring and will probably be looking for 3M+ over 3-4 year deal. I like Boyle but the Yzerman would be a fool to bring him back at a raise with the more pressing needs they currently have.

- stammerman


He was good for the Leafs in his role. I'd be happy with a 2 or 3 year contract for 2 or 2.5 per.

There is talk of Franson wanting to return to the Leafs. Hopefully a good low cost contract there, for some d depth. One more good dman, for the first pairing, and the Leafs are contenders.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Apr 26 @ 12:01 PM ET
the NHL average size for a dman is 6 foot 2 if I recall.

I suggest you look up the heights and weights of the players you speak of before commenting on their size, and them being big or not.

no reason really, just saying. fact checks are good right?

- prock

Cmon , there's only what? A half foot difference between the two?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
Cmon , there's only what? A half foot difference between the two?
- forbetterorWORSE



yes, for exactly that reason, I think calling them both big is silly.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 26 @ 1:00 PM ET
Hedman and Karlsson are now almost the same player.

In the past, Hedman was much better defensively than Karlsson. As was mentioned already, Karlsson has been improving his defensive game and it shows.

Now, I would rank them almost the same. Hedman has improved offensively and Karlsson defensively, but they are both big, fast, talented, Swedes. I just wish both of them would throw the body around a bit more.

Of course I am going to root for Hedman for the Norris, but really, either Hedman or Karlsson is a better pick than Burns.

Burns has that awesome beard and gaudy goal numbers, so he is probably going to win. That beard is mesmerizing and the voters are going to be blinded by it's hirsute glory.

- GalacticStone


Hedman is 6'6"

Karlsson is 5'11".

I stand corrected. Hedman is "big" and Karlsson is simply "tall".
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
Hedman is 6'6"

Karlsson is 5'11".

I stand corrected. Hedman is "big" and Karlsson is simply "tall".

- GalacticStone



I don't consider 5'11" tall in every day life. I personally consider it short, but by general population stats, it's average. In terms of hockey players, that's definitely short. In terms of NHL dmen, that's VERY short.

It's among the very shortest in the league.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...,gte,40&sort=playerHeight
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Apr 26 @ 2:01 PM ET
I don't consider 5'11" tall in every day life. I personally consider it short, but by general population stats, it's average. In terms of hockey players, that's definitely short. In terms of NHL dmen, that's VERY short.

It's among the very shortest in the league.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...,gte,40&sort=playerHeight

- prock

Its all relative. The average height for a Swedish male is 5'11, where the average height for a Canadian male is 5'10. So in everyday life he is average. However I am 6'1 and im assuming you are taller too so to us he is short. And compared to Hedman and your average nhl d man he is very much considered below average.
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