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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 10:03 PM ET
Do really, honestly think Tree is coming back? I need to ask, what makes you think being in Russia for 1 yr will make him decide to come back? Just curious.
- Kaynine

Cold
Horse meat w/ worms
Pot holes in the sidewalk
Crazy drunk drivers
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:04 PM ET
They didn't disclose. Given he had Arb rights with a two year deal past ELC probably under 2M. It probably was leave it on the table and walk away money small.
- Nuck4U

They say it was "high end" of comparable according to Dan Murphy. I don't know who would really be a comparable. I figure it was somewhere around 1.5-1.8 per season.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:04 PM ET
Cold
Horse meat w/ worms
Pot holes in the sidewalk
Crazy drunk drivers

- A_SteamingLombardi


He's moving to Prince George?
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:05 PM ET
Okay (frank) then who do you think is a comparable?

p.s. You don't get paid because of what you did one year.

- manvanfan


I gave who I thought the comparable are. You don't have to get all excited talking about this, it's just a discussion. As for Bo, he isn't getting paid cause of last yr, he's improved every yr and should continue to get better....why wouldn't he?

Really? You don't get paid for what you did in 1 yr? Look at the history of bad contract from players having a strong yr.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:06 PM ET
If he didn't here it's unlikely that's going to happen.
- VanHockeyGuy

It was only 1 year. By the sounds of it, he assumed he was going to be gifted minutes and such. He has some maturing to do.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 10:06 PM ET
He's moving to Prince George?
- VanHockeyGuy

Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:06 PM ET
Cold
Horse meat w/ worms
Pot holes in the sidewalk
Crazy drunk drivers

- A_SteamingLombardi



He went back after being here for a yr, maybe he likes horse meat!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 20 @ 10:08 PM ET

He went back after being here for a yr, maybe he likes horse meat!

- Kaynine



Man O War burgers are a delicacy there
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:09 PM ET
Do really, honestly think Tree is coming back? I need to ask, what makes you think being in Russia for 1 yr will make him decide to come back? Just curious.
- Kaynine


I haven't closed the door on him coming back. Why have you?

The factors I mentioned are motivators. Besides timing and personal reasons. A clear top 4 roster spot & money speaks volumes.

A year is optimistic but at least Olympics will be done. Why I said mull over his development. But a lot can happen too. I think 2 to 3 years from now is realistic.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:10 PM ET
Bo still has not scored 50 NHL goals yet
- VANTEL


He scored 20goals this yr while starting out the season on a 29th place teams 4th line
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 10:11 PM ET

He went back after being here for a yr, maybe he likes horse meat!

- Kaynine

Someone should of told him about Arby's.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:12 PM ET
Cold
Horse meat w/ worms
Pot holes in the sidewalk
Crazy drunk drivers

- A_SteamingLombardi


Clearly you haven't been there. It's the fourth largest city in Russia not a country outpost.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 20 @ 10:14 PM ET
Just watching Jannick Weber on Nashville . He looks really decent. I guess that is the difference when a team has good leadership.


Every player that has left here has looked much better but hey lets blame the coach.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 10:14 PM ET
Clearly you haven't been there. It's the fourth largest city in Russia not a country outpost.
- Nuck4U

Clearly you don't fit in here.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:14 PM ET
I gave who I thought the comparable are. You don't have to get all excited talking about this, it's just a discussion. As for Bo, he isn't getting paid cause of last yr, he's improved every yr and should continue to get better....why wouldn't he?

Really? You don't get paid for what you did in 1 yr? Look at the history of bad contract from players having a strong yr.

- Kaynine

So what is he going to get for a contract then? Plus your stats on Rakell and Huberdeau are wrong.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:15 PM ET
I haven't closed the door on him coming back. Why have you?

The factors I mentioned are motivators. Besides timing and personal reasons. A clear top 4 roster spot & money speaks volumes.

A year is optimistic but at least Olympics will be done. Why I said mull over his development. But a lot can happen too. I think 2 to 3 years from now is realistic.

- Nuck4U


I don't want to say yeah I've closed the door on him coming back, but. JB gave him a contract that he wanted and had to convince him to come over. He went home after just 1 season, he didn't even give it a chance. Van even talked about him being a core piece moving forward, which in my eyes says his icetime and playing situation would improve. So, IMO chances of him coming back would be slim.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 20 @ 10:16 PM ET
Heard of that Filipino cookbook called....

50 Ways to Wok your Dog?

- VanHockeyGuy



Don't piss off a Filipina . They also have a cookbook 50 way to stew your mans nuts.


Have you ever tried Stewed Nuts
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:16 PM ET
So what is he going to get for a contract then? Plus your stats on Rakell and Huberdeau are wrong.
- manvanfan


Your the one that mentioned their stats. I honestly don't know what he will get but I'm thinking in around the 5.5 mil over 6 yrs. if it's a bridge deal then probably 3.5 over 2 yrs.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:17 PM ET
Just watching Jannick Weber on Nashville . He looks really decent. I guess that is the difference when a team has good leadership.


Every player that has left here has looked much better but hey lets blame the coach.

- VANTEL

Weber wasn't all bad when Van was half decent.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:18 PM ET
So what is he going to get for a contract then? Plus your stats on Rakell and Huberdeau are wrong.
- manvanfan


Sorry, I misread the stats you put up about Huberdeau.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:20 PM ET
Don't piss off a Filipina . They also have a cookbook 50 way to stew your mans nuts.


Have you ever tried Stewed Nuts

- VANTEL



Not that I know of
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 20 @ 10:21 PM ET
They say it was "high end" of comparable according to Dan Murphy. I don't know who would really be a comparable. I figure it was somewhere around 1.5-1.8 per season.
- manvanfan


Yup that's my thinking too. He's probably getting double that playing in mother Russia.

TL said he's core player to build the team around. You think he thought that sounded like a core offer?

With all the issues he was having he said frack it. I'll go back play tons of minutes. Try for Olympics and collect good pay while being at home with family. Evaluate where I am at in development. Then hear what the Canucks have to say about team and new contract. Wouldn't you if given a choice?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 20 @ 10:22 PM ET
Did any of them just quit and go back to Russia?
- A_SteamingLombardi

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 10:22 PM ET
Yup that's my thinking too. He's probably getting double that playing in mother Russia.

TL said he's core player to build the team around. You think he thought that sounded like a core offer?

With all the issues he was having he said frack it. I'll go back play tons of minutes. Try for Olympics and collect good pay while being at home with family. Then see where I am at in development. Then hear what the Canucks have to say about team and new contract. Wouldn't you if given a choice?

- Nuck4U

I can guarantee the language was tough for him. I'm sure playing for a losing team also didn't help.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 20 @ 10:23 PM ET
He's moving to Prince George?
- VanHockeyGuy

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