I get why radio guys would like Murray, he *was* (feels good to say was) entertaining.

But Simon did a good job of breaking down his moves today and basically said, why wouldn't he have been fired

Moulson deal
Ennis deal
acquiring Bogo
Fasching deal
2014 draft
Kulikov
Not doing a single thing all year

It would be reasonable to be given another year, but the firing is totally defensible
- sbroads24

bogo wasn't the key piece of that deal and mcnabb is not that good...as for the rest, points well made

bogo wasn't the key piece of that deal and mcnabb is not that good...as for the rest, points well made
- Michael Pachla

Bogo was absolutely a kep piece in that deal.

HE though Bogosian was a top 3 d-man. He wasnt just a get rid if me cap dump. If he was, that is even worse for Murray giving up that much for a long term expensive cap dump.

bogo wasn't the key piece of that deal and mcnabb is not that good...as for the rest, points well made
- Michael Pachla

I agree with McNabb not being very good, but leaving him out of it, the trade is still 2 2nds for Fasching and D-Lo.

Wow... just read they are thinking of bringing in Larry Quinn.







Kidding.

I agree with McNabb not being very good, but leaving him out of it, the trade is still 2 2nds for Fasching and D-Lo.
- Khmylev

"We need to be the broad street bullies"

Bogo was absolutely a kep piece in that deal.

HE though Bogosian was a top 3 d-man. He wasnt just a get rid if me cap dump. If he was, that is even worse for Murray giving up that much for a long term expensive cap dump.
- ImThatGuy

kane was the key piece, and that includes him being on ir for the rest of the season...sure, he liked bogo, but do you think he would have traded for him without kane?

kane was the key piece, and that includes him being on ir for the rest of the season...sure, he liked bogo, but do you think he would have traded for him without kane?
- Michael Pachla

Impossible to answer, but Yes I do.

Murray on Bogosian:

“He’s a big, strong, athletic kid who works hard, has a ton of character in my estimation, has leadership qualities,” Murray said. “I’ve liked him since probably the first game I saw him as an amateur. …

“The one dimension they both bring is they’re hard to play against. They make us as a team harder to play against.

I agree with McNabb not being very good, but leaving him out of it, the trade is still 2 2nds for Fasching and D-Lo.
- Khmylev

we won't know how those two second pan out for a while, but odds are against second-rounders making an impact at the nhl-level, and even making it full time to nhl

bogo wasn't the key piece of that deal and mcnabb is not that good...as for the rest, points well made
- Michael Pachla

He traded 2 2nds and McNabb, for Fasching and Deslauriers (was there another pick in there as well?). No matter how you slice it, that trade did not make the team better in any way.

Impossible to answer, but Yes I do.
- ImThatGuy

I think the opposite...fair enough

we are down to 48 shades of stink


moving in the right direction

bogo wasn't the key piece of that deal and mcnabb is not that good...as for the rest, points well made
- Michael Pachla

You still can't justify 2 2nd round picks for a guy with 1 NHL goal, and a very underwhelming year in the AHL, 3 years after the fact

kane was the key piece, and that includes him being on ir for the rest of the season...sure, he liked bogo, but do you think he would have traded for him without kane?
- Michael Pachla

they asked for him as part of the deal. dedicated a top four spot. he wasnt the big piece, but definitely a key piece. he wasnt kasdorf

You still can't justify 2 2nd round picks for a guy with 1 NHL goal, and a very underwhelming year in the AHL, 3 years after the fact
- sbroads24

why is this still a debate? the guy sucked at his job (both of them did) and his arrogance didnt match his results. We're in a better position today than we were two days ago.

we are down to 48 shades of stink


moving in the right direction
- homiedclown

No, i'm sure we can fall down again.

He traded 2 2nds and McNabb, for Fasching and Deslauriers (was there another pick in there as well?). No matter how you slice it, that trade did not make the team better in any way.
- buffalofan19

Alex Lintuniemi and Erik Černák

we'll see how those pan out...and I wouldn't give up on Fasching just yet...he was dealing with a groin tear all season

You still can't justify 2 2nd round picks for a guy with 1 NHL goal, and a very underwhelming year in the AHL, 3 years after the fact
- sbroads24

Fasching was dealing with a groin tear all season

they asked for him as part of the deal. dedicated a top four spot. he wasnt the big piece, but definitely a key piece. he wasnt kasdorf
- Sabresfan-365

I pose the question, would murray have traded for bogo solo?

Fasching was dealing with a groin tear all season
- Michael Pachla

Regardless, Fasching needs to make the jump this year.

lombardi interviewed yesterday

Fasching was dealing with a groin tear all season
- Michael Pachla

Sabres make me feel like I have a groin tear all season.

Impossible to answer, but Yes I do.

Murray on Bogosian:

“He’s a big, strong, athletic kid who works hard, has a ton of character in my estimation, has leadership qualities,” Murray said. “I’ve liked him since probably the first game I saw him as an amateur. …

“The one dimension they both bring is they’re hard to play against. They make us as a team harder to play against.
- ImThatGuy

Hes mentioned he traded Bogo for Myers straight up in that deal is how he viewed it. The rest of the pieces were for Kane

Alex Lintuniemi and Erik Černák

we'll see how those pan out...and I wouldn't give up on Fasching just yet...he was dealing with a groin tear all season
- Michael Pachla

I don't think anyone has given up on Fasching.

Point is the value was way, far off a cliff off.

For 2 2nds and a bottom pairing D man you should get a pretty nice NHL regular back. Not a former 4th rounder from the year before

I pose the question, would murray have traded for bogo solo?
- Michael Pachla

i dunno, all that matters is that he did trade for him. and give him a role way too big for him

Lombardi interviewed yesterday for GM position IN BUFFALO.

IMO Pegula knew he was lettign Murray go for awhile now.