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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:07 PM ET
So then why not go play ?
- Redmile247



What happens and he gets a career ending injury? Why risk it? It is not like someone in Europe has never broke a leg or anything. Do You think Canucks are going to pay him 5 mil if he is going to need surgery for a knee on knee?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
It seems they need more direction/expertise on the hockey side of things. I think TL is in over his head in these areas.
- VanHockeyGuy


Totally agree. TL may recognize that too. Maybe why the reach out to Krueger. That expertise is sorely needed within Nuck organization.

Only logical reason he would leave his EPL chair. The speculation on coaching seems misplaced. Don't think he would take the Hawks or Pens bench for that matter if they became open.

He coached tournaments because it was temporary and he could take that time away from his duties at Southampton. It doesn't mean he would drop it for the perilous tenure of a HC NHL job. Not where he's at now.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:09 PM ET
They tanked for Mcdavid too. But lost out. If the players weren't ready okay will give you that. However, if they were they had no desire to improve to bring them on.

Player development isn't linear or one way necessarily. What makes a player ready isn't clear cut. A lot of trial and error may follow. Anyway, all for trying to see what works.

- Nuck4U


Tank for McDavid? They finished 26th and still have Kessel and Phaneuf on their roster and acquired Olli Jokinen before the wheels fell off. I agree it was the beginning of stripping down, as they started selling at the deadline but Arizona and Buffalo had long prepared to get McDavid.

I know you're of the mindset that kids need to skate at the NHL level to learn to play there, but Detroit lets the kids simmer and Shanahan was definitely trying to replicate them. The immediate impact of Nyquist, Mantha, Tatar, and now the Leaf kids is pretty evident that extra development time won't hurt them
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 19 @ 10:10 PM ET
What happens and he gets a career ending injury? Why risk it? It is not like someone in Europe has never broke a leg or anything. Do You think Canucks are going to pay him 5 mil if he is going to need surgery for a knee on knee?
- VANTEL

1 word mofu >>>INSURANCE!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:13 PM ET
Bettmanhatesus would say that the league wants Toronto to win
- Makita



Are you trolling the posters here
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:14 PM ET
Thank the hockey gods that Toronto lost, that team started to dive on checks and wasn't impressed with Anderson initiating the goalie interference.
- Makita


You can add the Sens huge win in Boston.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 19 @ 10:16 PM ET
Totally agree. TL may recognize that too. Maybe why the reach out to Krueger. That expertise is sorely needed within Nuck organization.

Only logical reason he would leave his EPL chair. The speculation on coaching seems misplaced. Don't think he would take the Hawks or Pens bench for that matter if they became open.

He coached tournaments because it was temporary and he could take that time away from his duties at Southampton. It doesn't mean he would drop it for the perilous tenure of a HC NHL job. Not where he's at now.

- Nuck4U


Yup, he's got a good gig now. He's smarter than TL hockey wise, makes sense.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 19 @ 10:17 PM ET
Are you trolling the posters here
- VANTEL


he actually is
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 19 @ 10:19 PM ET
You can add the Sens huge win in Boston.
- Nuck4U

The National broadcasters don't recognize our capital city as a Canadian team
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:20 PM ET
Tank for McDavid? They finished 26th and still have Kessel and Phaneuf on their roster and acquired Olli Jokinen before the wheels fell off. I agree it was the beginning of stripping down, as they started selling at the deadline but Arizona and Buffalo had long prepared to get McDavid.

I know you're of the mindset that kids need to skate at the NHL level to learn to play there, but Detroit lets the kids simmer and Shanahan was definitely trying to replicate them. The immediate impact of Nyquist, Mantha, Tatar, and now the Leaf kids is pretty evident that extra development time won't hurt them

- WhiteLie



I am not opposed at young players taking a roster spot if they can handle the NHL game. The game is getting younger and faster.

Also, simmering works for teams that don't have roster spots and loaded with high performing vets. But it's not necessarily an NHL grooming way to have to simmer in the AHL.

Edit: I see how AZ and Buff preparedness helped in getting McDavid. It means nothing. All you need is a lotto ticket. The Leafs had that. But Fracken Oil.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:23 PM ET
Freddy said he was going to continue to concentrate on soccer for now . His season ends in a month . Then it is a new ballgame.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 10:27 PM ET
well 2 words ...soccer sucks
- onesmallleap

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 19 @ 10:27 PM ET
As a person who has suffered from the ignorance of others I thank you from the bottom of my cholesteral clogged heart.
- bloatedhefty

Well said
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:28 PM ET
You know that whole debate of is it better to finish low and get a high draft pick or make the playoffs but be bundled out in the first round, possibly in a sweep?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 19 @ 10:31 PM ET
You know that whole debate of is it better to finish low and get a high draft pick or make the playoffs but be bundled out in the first round, possibly in a sweep?
- NorthNuck




Your comparing apples to rotten tomatoes there
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:32 PM ET


Your comparing apples to rotten tomatoes there

- Redmile247

All i can say is I'd rather be where i am than where you are at this particular moment
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:33 PM ET


Your comparing apples to rotten tomatoes there

- Redmile247



The same comparison were made to us by Leaf Oilers and Flame fans to us
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:35 PM ET
The same comparison were made to us by Leaf Oilers and Flame fans to us
- VANTEL

I thought of your post saying the flames really arent as far ahead of us as they think as soon as the first goal went in
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
All i can say is I'd rather be where i am than where you are at this particular moment
- NorthNuck


I wouldn't
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
well 2 words ...soccer sucks
- onesmallleap


Ya ok

But hey, it pays him 5 mil a yr!
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 19 @ 10:37 PM ET
The same comparison were made to us by Leaf Oilers and Flame fans to us
- VANTEL


Well there are 3 young playoff teams and one none playoff team starting a rebuild
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:37 PM ET
I am not opposed at young players taking a roster spot if they can handle the NHL game. The game is getting younger and faster.

Also, simmering works for teams that don't have roster spots and loaded with high performing vets. But it's not necessarily an NHL grooming way to have to simmer in the AHL.

Edit: I see how AZ and Buff preparedness helped in getting McDavid. It means nothing. All you need is a lotto ticket. The Leafs had that. But Fracken Oil.

- Nuck4U


I guess it depends on your view of high performing vets. In the same sense we know Goldobin, Virtanen and Boeser could have easily been 3rd or 4th line players, I am positive the Detroit and Leaf players could have gone there right away too. AHL I think does well to prepare you for the right role.

We will see how it plays out though, I know we differ on opinions here but I hope they leave some kids to dominate and gel in Utica while signing the 2017 equivalent to Stephen Weiss, PA Parenteau, Brad Richards to fill the NHL lineup
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 19 @ 10:39 PM ET
Well there are 3 young playoff teams and one none playoff team starting a rebuild
- Redmile247



Back in 2012 when we got swept you guys came in here and laughed and said it was better to draft high than be swept . What goes around comes around
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:39 PM ET
I wouldn't
- Redmile247

Hard to watch the home fans leaving during the 1st period
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Apr 19 @ 10:41 PM ET


Your comparing apples to rotten tomatoes there

- Redmile247


Well that's not a good start for Cal

Here's hoping Cal can reverse what the Ducks did last game
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