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Bishop is too big a risk. I don't think he's much of an upgrade and he's going to want way to much money. Flames shouldn't be in a bidding war for a 31 year old injury prone goalie coming off a down year.
Fleury? I'm guessing you missed the Penguins last couple games. How is that any better than what Elliott?
The Flames have some amazing goalie prospects that are going to be needing NHL time soon. I wouldn't be giving up assets to take a risk on a young backup goalie who's done well on an elite team.
Elliott is still probably the best option. - Hunkulese
It worked for Edmonton with Talbot, Jones in San Jose and to lesser extent though not some much a "back-up," it worked for Toronto as well with Andersen. You could even make cases for Schneider in NJ, Bob in Columbus or even Dubnyk. |
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Fleury has won in The playoffs. Since you made the argument and all.
Bishops been a huge partner of consecutive deep runs (Eastern and cup finals) - HB77
Fleury has won the the playoffs because he plays one a team with Crosby and Malkin. They almost won that first cup in spite of Fleury. Elliott made the conference finals last year. |
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Watch the last two Penguins games and tell me that's the goalie you think the Flames can win in the playoffs with. Elliott also had better numbers than both of them this year. - Hunkulese
I didn't watch the last two Penguin games but I have seen MAF plenty of times and he looks miles better than Elliott. No way Elliott is back after that meltdown. |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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So why should the Flames be paying them when they have Gilles, Rittich, and Parsons in the system? - Hunkulese
Cause those guy haven't proven they're NHL quality
I mean I won't argue the economics of the flames super tight for cash. But I think it's reasonably clear their a solid team and tending is one of their weak spots
Depending on one of those u mentioned to step in and be the piece that gets an upcoming team to the next level is abit of a gamble I'd say |
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Cause those guy haven't proven they're NHL quality
I mean I won't argue the economics of the flames super tight for cash. But I think it's reasonably clear their a solid team and tending is one of their weak spots
Depending on one of those u mentioned to step in and be the piece that gets an upcoming team to the next step is abit of a gamble I'd say - HB77
Blaming Elliott for everything is an overreaction to a couple bad games. Does Columbus have a weak spot in goal because Bobrovsky has had a bad series. Is Rinne all of a sudden back to being an amazing elite goalie. The Flames made the playoffs this year based on solid goaltending and Elliott is a solid number one goalie.
The Flames easily could have won the first two games with Elliott playing the exact same way (he was phenomenal in game one) and no one would be complaining. |
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HB77
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Fleury has won the the playoffs because he plays one a team with Crosby and Malkin. They almost won that first cup in spite of Fleury. Elliott made the conference finals last year. - Hunkulese
Revisionist history here
Fleury was absolutely not mediocre in their first cup run.
You either didn't watch or are hoping I didn't
Anyways, i ain't gonna argue too much.
If you don't think tending is an issue and that Elliot is comparable to those two- I guess we'll have to agree to strongly disagree |
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So why should the Flames be paying them when they have Gilles, Rittich, and Parsons in the system? - Hunkulese
I don't think either are ready |
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Watch the last two Penguins games and tell me that's the goalie you think the Flames can win in the playoffs with. Elliott also had better numbers than both of them this year. - Hunkulese
Pens defense is currently a dumpster fire - he's been hung out to dry. Yesterday's loss shouldn't be put on him. He's still outplayed his counterpart, Bobrovsky, through large parts of this series.
Go get him. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Revisionist history here
Fleury was absolutely not mediocre in their first cup run.
You either didn't watch or are hoping I didn't
Anyways, i ain't gonna argue too much.
If you don't think tending is an issue and that Elliot is comparable to those two- I guess we'll have to agree to strongly disagree - HB77
He really wasn't. He was great in 2008, not so much in 2009. He was up and down the entire run and has been every since. |
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HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Blaming Elliott for everything is an overreaction to a couple bad games. Does Columbus have a weak spot in goal because Bobrovsky has had a bad series. Is Rinne all of a sudden back to being an amazing elite goalie. The Flames made the playoffs this year based on solid goaltending and Elliott is a solid number one goalie.
The Flames easily could have won the first two games with Elliott playing the exact same way (he was phenomenal in game one) and no one would be complaining. - Hunkulese
ELliots season and bobs season shouldn't be discussed in comparable terms
One might be a hart finalist, the other lost his starting job to chad johnson for a time.
In fact, had johnson not come in and saved a drowning team behind Elliot's weak start, there may have been no quality final third of the season for Elliot to play better
You watched him more than me, so I'll defer I guess.
End of the day, as a fan of a rival team I hope u stick with elliot instead of signing bishop. Or even fleury |
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HB77
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Pens defense is currently a dumpster fire - he's been hung out to dry. Yesterday's loss shouldn't be put on him. He's still outplayed his counterpart, Bobrovsky, through large parts of this series.
Go get him. - DeflatedPucks
GAmes 1 and 2 he was brilliant
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Cause those guy haven't proven they're NHL quality
I mean I won't argue the economics of the flames super tight for cash. But I think it's reasonably clear their a solid team and tending is one of their weak spots
Depending on one of those u mentioned to step in and be the piece that gets an upcoming team to the next level is abit of a gamble I'd say - HB77
give Bishop a long term deal at a reasonable cap hit ...give him a year extra if need be ...then buy him out when the next contract ends in 2019 if one of the kids are ready ...not my money |
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they lost 4 one goal games (one EN) and Elliott had a save% in the mid .800s
Switch goalies and the Flames are up 3-1 in the series
don't blame it all on him? okay but like 90% was on the goal tending |
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if anyone thinks the Flames are giving up a 3rd rounder to the Blues to sign Elliott you are nucking futs
he is DONE in Calgary |
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HB77
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It's not like I can't see the save money/placeholder pov.
But that line of thinking is 2 fold-
It's the kind of strategy that assumes you're a few years from taking that next step. which you ain't.
So with that said, you're then sure one of those kids in the system is gonna be the man in the very near future. Which you ain't
Unless you're totally cash strapped (which you ain't) upgrading in goal is a must.
BUT again, I hope u guys don't
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Bernier's a UFA come July 1. 28 years old and might be ready to tackle a #1 role again. Have Gillies back him up and see what he's got at the NHL level.
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Location: If this team hasnt won a cup in the next 5 years hes a massive failure. iggy, NF Joined: 12.11.2015
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You guys had a simple mission.
Beat the Ducks to set up a BoA encounter, or at least make it a hard, long series to wear them out. Failed on both accounts. For shame.
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You guys had a simple mission.
Beat the Ducks to set up a BoA encounter, or at least make it a hard, long series to wear them out. Failed on both accounts. For shame.
- McSavioursPupil
They took plenty of dirty runs in the first 3 games before their spirit was broken and during the home-and-home at the end of the season. Ducks are plenty banged up thanks to these (frank)ers. |
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Bernier's a UFA come July 1. 28 years old and might be ready to tackle a #1 role again. Have Gillies back him up and see what he's got at the NHL level. - InSutterWeTrust
Poor Bernier, they'll kill his career just like Hiller |
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No way Elliott is back after that meltdown. - tincup
Agreed. No way you can re-sign Elliott. The guy is simply not good enough to win with and does not hold up well under pressure.
The Flames were good enough to have a shot at beating Anaheim if they had great goaltending.
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Watch the last two Penguins games and tell me that's the goalie you think the Flames can win in the playoffs with. Elliott also had better numbers than both of them this year. - Hunkulese Watch the first two games where he only gave up two goals on 70 shots. The Pens have played a lot of games this year with little more than an AHL defense. I'm not saying MAF is the greatest goalie but he is better than Elliott that's for sure.
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tincup
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Agreed. No way you can re-sign Elliott. The guy is simply not good enough to win with and does not hold up well under pressure.
The Flames were good enough to have a shot at beating Anaheim if they had great goaltending. - SensFan25
No question there's added pressure playing in a CDN market and Elliott looked rattled under the pressure. Not sure where he plays next season but i'm guessing it will be south of the border. |
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Bernier's a UFA come July 1. 28 years old and might be ready to tackle a #1 role again. Have Gillies back him up and see what he's got at the NHL level. - InSutterWeTrust
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Y'all should sign Miller.
He demonstrated this season that he's still got alot left in the tank and could potentially be one of the cheaper, high quality options this free-agency. |
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