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MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 19 @ 12:20 PM ET

Wild fans are hilarious. Saying they are the better team is silly. They are playing against an injured, rebuilding team, and still can't find a winning style. Saying they are better is like saying the Timberwolves are better because they have more dunks per game. That's great, but Blues aren't playing basketball. They aren't playing possession hockey either. They are playing defense first hockey. Also known as winning hockey. Being better at playing a losing style of hockey is meaningless. Sure, if a few more bounces went Wild's way, they could be winning. And if a few more bounces went Blues way, the scores would be blowouts in Blues favor, instead of close.

Wild fans can keep their false sense of superiority. Pairs great with early tee times.

- Antilles

Well obviously because the entire Minnsota fan base is ignorant... and oh yeah, Wild are the better team! I just love being silly!
dougverby
St Louis Blues
Joined: 04.17.2017

Apr 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
If the Blues score first tonight, Minnesota will fold and get blown out. Way too many excuses from Boudreau, Dubnyk, and company.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
If the Blues score first tonight, Minnesota will fold and get blown out. Way too many excuses from Boudreau, Dubnyk, and company.
- dougverby


So because they're making excuses they'll get blown out? Sweet logic!
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
So because they're making excuses they'll get blown out? Sweet logic!
- MnGump


Do feel like Blues are due for offensive uptick. Kinda like what we saw vs Stars last year.
bluenoter
St Louis Blues
Location: Southern, IL
Joined: 04.05.2013

Apr 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
Do feel like Blues are due for offensive uptick. Kinda like what we saw vs Stars last year.
- Gerk


All I'm going to say is that the Blues need to play better and stay on the attack when they have the lead. This team has looked terribly slow and outclassed when they're leading. If they don't do that, they will be knocked out shortly, but it will be a learning experience for this young team. Yes, the team has done well when completely in a shell of clearing rebounds, if Allen provides them. But it would be much more to their benefit to be playing more time with the puck in the O zone.

They better win this soon or we could be looking at a much more interesting series than most Blues fans would like to believe. If possession stats, Corsi #'s and shots don't mean anything, then neither does the percentage of teams that have come back from 3-0.

LGB, but I want to see more like the first period of game 3, which Wild fans seem to have forgotten.
gypsypunk01
Minnesota Wild
Location: Stillwater, MN
Joined: 01.28.2014

Apr 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Hey blues fans! Welcome to your introductory class on what we used to like to call, Yeo-puck! Once your team establishes a lead, they will give up all o-zone pressure, continually dumping the puck and changing lines. Welcome to 20 SOG against 3rd periods!!
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Apr 19 @ 2:31 PM ET
Hey blues fans! Welcome to your introductory class on what we used to like to call, Yeo-puck! Once your team establishes a lead, they will give up all o-zone pressure, continually dumping the puck and changing lines. Welcome to 20 SOG against 3rd periods!!
- gypsypunk01



Nothing new. Ken Hitchcock was no stranger to 0-1 third period shots on goal for the Blues.

Sit back and hold on.

Tweaterben
Minnesota Wild
Location: PROFESSIONAL CHOKE ARTISTS, MN
Joined: 10.19.2008

Apr 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
I didn't realize how many ass clown Blues fans were on this site. They win a few games and come out from the cracks and start running their mouths like their the 1960's Canadians.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Apr 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
I didn't realize how many ass clown Blues fans were on this site. They win a few games and come out from the cracks and start running their mouths like their the 1960's Canadians.
- Tweaterben


Thanks for staying classy

Pretty sure no names have been called by anyone until you so Kudos
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Apr 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
Hey blues fans! Welcome to your introductory class on what we used to like to call, Yeo-puck! Once your team establishes a lead, they will give up all o-zone pressure, continually dumping the puck and changing lines. Welcome to 20 SOG against 3rd periods!!
- gypsypunk01


Im ok if YEO Puck continues to produce at 25-8 win/ loss ratio
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
Im ok if YEO Puck continues to produce at 25-8 win/ loss ratio
- Gerk

Well that's just it... we saw similar percentages while Yeo was here... but once it was lost so was the rest of the season(s). Granted he did get this team to the playoffs every season he was here but his losing skids were as long as his winning streaks. It seemed like once teams figured out how to get past Yeos defensive scheming, he had no answers or adjustments. Hence the reason he was let go.

Blues fans will most likely experience the doldrums of Mike Yeo losing skids at some point. But I guess for now enjoy his new found success while it lasts.
gypsypunk01
Minnesota Wild
Location: Stillwater, MN
Joined: 01.28.2014

Apr 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
Im ok if YEO Puck continues to produce at 25-8 win/ loss ratio
- Gerk

Don't count on it. After firing Yeo last year, the team played a hell of a lot better under Torchetti and made the playoffs. Was it because he's a great coach, or was it because the team got a jolt because of the firing?? I wouldn't count on the first 35 games being the norm, because you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I think this series has more to do with how $hi!!y the wild have been since March than anything the Blues (or Yeo) has done.
bcallaway
St Louis Blues
Location: The Clown may be the source of mirth - but who shall make the clown laugh?
Joined: 03.29.2006

Apr 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
I didn't realize how many ass clown Blues fans were on this site. They win a few games and come out from the cracks and start running their mouths like their the 1960's Canadians.
- Tweaterben



Who you calling a clown there, buddy????

MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
Who you calling a clown there, buddy????
- bcallaway

fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 19 @ 5:10 PM ET
Well that's just it... we saw similar percentages while Yeo was here... but once it was lost so was the rest of the season(s). Granted he did get this team to the playoffs every season he was here but his losing skids were as long as his winning streaks. It seemed like once teams figured out how to get past Yeos defensive scheming, he had no answers or adjustments. Hence the reason he was let go.

Blues fans will most likely experience the doldrums of Mike Yeo losing skids at some point. But I guess for now enjoy his new found success while it lasts.

- MnGump

The biggest difference with Yeo compared to other coaches the Blues have had is that he is much more positive and puts more trust in all his players regardless of age or salary. He has been in the league for a while now, if he was a one trick pony and it was just a matter of teams figuring out his scheme, it would have happened by now. Sure there will be a losing streak eventually, it's guaranteed to happen. Right now the Blue are rolling. When you back your way into the playoffs like the Wild have done, you mess up prime scoring opportunities. You feel like you have to be quicker than you have to. Desperation looms right around the corner. It's happened to the Blues, it's probably happened to every team that has been around for a while.

Instead of blaming the coach, look at the rosters. The Blues are minus their top center and one of their top wingers. Their D is bigger and superior to the Wilds (Suter is way overrated btw). The Blues have built the majority of their core from within while the Wild on the other hand are a team built on free agents. In other words, players who went for big money which their previous teams were not only not willing to pay but perfectly happy to let walk for nothing.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 19 @ 5:13 PM ET
Do feel like Blues are due for offensive uptick. Kinda like what we saw vs Stars last year.
- Gerk


I was thinking this casually last night or at least something very similar but DD is far better than the Stars net tandem.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
Well that's just it... we saw similar percentages while Yeo was here... but once it was lost so was the rest of the season(s). Granted he did get this team to the playoffs every season he was here but his losing skids were as long as his winning streaks. It seemed like once teams figured out how to get past Yeos defensive scheming, he had no answers or adjustments. Hence the reason he was let go.

Blues fans will most likely experience the doldrums of Mike Yeo losing skids at some point. But I guess for now enjoy his new found success while it lasts.

- MnGump


I'm really hoping this is a Wild strategy vs an overall, one trick pony strategy but I realize hope isn't a strategy. I hope to be able to see if he changes it up next round.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 19 @ 5:18 PM ET
I'll agree to disagree with Dan on Game 3. I don't think there is a way to say better team was on the losing end Sunday.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 19 @ 5:54 PM ET


Instead of blaming the coach, look at the rosters. The Blues are minus their top center and one of their top wingers. Their D is bigger and superior to the Wilds (Suter is way overrated btw). The Blues have built the majority of their core from within while the Wild on the other hand are a team built on free agents. In other words, players who went for big money which their previous teams were not only not willing to pay but perfectly happy to let walk for nothing.

- fattyboubatty


Not sure what the significance is here. So you're saying there's a clear cut advantage to building a team strictly through the draft??? I don't see the difference between a really good drafted player on a team vs a really good UFA acquisition. Makes no sense. So you're saying the Wild would be much better if they had actually drafted Parise, Suter and Staal instead of signing via free agency? Because they are the only significant free agents the Wild have signed in the last several years.
Besides, once you have a coaching turnover all that stuff goes out the window. New coach don't care if you have a team of free agents or home growns.

Wild started the season with pretty much the same core they had 3 years ago with the exception of Staal. So to insinuate that somehow the Wild are some rag tag team of UFA's is pretty much inaccurate.
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 12:25 AM ET
One down, three to go
Dan Wallace
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 20 @ 12:33 AM ET
One down, three to go
- MnGump


Series On!!!
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 1:13 AM ET
Series On!!!
- Dan Wallace

Dubnyk and the 5 on 5 offense comes alive!
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Apr 20 @ 8:09 AM ET
Dubnyk and the 5 on 5 offense comes alive!
- MnGump


Offense comes alive? Perhaps in the at least it has a pulse sense
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
Offense comes alive? Perhaps in the at least it has a pulse sense
- Jason Millen

Well they almost matched their total output for the entire series so far. I guess that's at least a heart beat! Baby steps
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