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77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Apr 20 @ 12:35 PM ET
An offside is an offside no matter how long it took! review is never done for penalties so no point to bring that as an argument.
Why is it ok if it is offside and reviewed 5-10 seconds later vs 19 seconds like yesterday?
The point of the offside is that it gives an illegal advantage by coming into the zone early and before the puck enters...even if the play continues, the advantage is still there as the opposing team had an unfair advantage to begin with.

Another example that you can review even if MINUTES have passed by, it happened in the past that a team scored but the ref (and others) didn't see the puck go in...play continues for minutes until the play stops. they then see it's a goal so they give the goal and put the clock back seconds/minutes that it needs to and ANYTHING that happened after the "missed" goal is negated including a penalty or a goal by the other team...

- Raven33



again... I said, he was so offsides the linesman should have never let it go. Linesman did a poor job, it was def. offsides, no argument. Just frustrating.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
It's funny that when looking at injuries, you exaggerate about only your guys! Who are you missing... Borowiecki? He's at best a 6th/7th defenseman. Bruins are missing 2 guys from their top 4 and 1 guy from their top 6. Thats a huge difference.
- mixturebill


Where did I exaggerate about ONLY my guys? I didn't even say anything about your guys being quality players or not!
It's not because a player is dressed up that he's healthy!! Isn't Krejci playing hurt?

Well, the best defenseman in the game is playing hurt on our side (even though he's producing), our #2 D (Methot) is clearly playing hurt not being able to shoot the puck and wincing when trying to push/check players, our top wing forward (Stone) is also clearly hurt. He led the entire league in takeways and now can't even take a shot at an open net! Always passing even when he has golden opportunities in front of the net.. and lastly, yes Boro is a #6 but effective at what he does, especially vs the bruins...
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
again... I said, he was so offsides the linesman should have never let it go. Linesman did a poor job, it was def. offsides, no argument. Just frustrating.
- 77emac77


ok, agreed! refs and linesman seems worst than ever for all the playoffs series...I watch almost all of the series except ducks/flames & wild/blues and see how inconsistent they are...you know it's bad when teams on both side of a series is complaining about the reffing!
highstick87
Boston Bruins
Joined: 07.14.2016

Apr 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
Where did I exaggerate about ONLY my guys? I didn't even say anything about your guys being quality players or not!
It's not because a player is dressed up that he's healthy!! Isn't Krejci playing hurt?

Well, the best defenseman in the game is playing hurt on our side (even though he's producing), our #2 D (Methot) is clearly playing hurt not being able to shoot the puck and wincing when trying to push/check players, our top wing forward (Stone) is also clearly hurt. He led the entire league in takeways and now can't even take a shot at an open net! Always passing even when he has golden opportunities in front of the net.. and lastly, yes Boro is a #6 but effective at what he does, especially vs the bruins...

- Raven33


Karlsson is not playing on one leg like you previously mentioned, he may have a nagging injury but it's not restricting him from doing anything. Ottawa better start working on a lifetime contract if this is one leg production
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 1:36 PM ET
Karlsson is not playing on one leg like you previously mentioned, he may have a nagging injury but it's not restricting him from doing anything. Ottawa better start working on a lifetime contract if this is one leg production
- highstick87


his injury is ankle/foot related so that's why I said on one leg...meaning 1 fully healthy leg... and yes, they better offer him max deal when they are allowed to do so in 1+ year!
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Apr 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
Karlsson is not playing on one leg like you previously mentioned, he may have a nagging injury but it's not restricting him from doing anything. Ottawa better start working on a lifetime contract if this is one leg production
- highstick87


He is playing on one leg, man, if you watch him regularly you can tell this is not even close to his best hockey, he is at half speed and has much less mobility compared to his normal pace. No one can deny it anymore, even when playing on an injured foot and having his ice time increased, unlike Chara, he remains effective. He is the best d man in hockey, hands down, even when playing half as effectively as he normally does.

Karlsson at half health is still better than a fully healthy Krug, and I'm sorry you guys just can't admit it.
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 20 @ 2:15 PM ET
He is playing on one leg, man, if you watch him regularly you can tell this is not even close to his best hockey, he is at half speed and has much less mobility compared to his normal pace. No one can deny it anymore, even when playing on an injured foot and having his ice time increased, unlike Chara, he remains effective. He is the best d man in hockey, hands down, even when playing half as effectively as he normally does.

Karlsson at half health is still better than a fully healthy Krug, and I'm sorry you guys just can't admit it.

- ahjnkn

Pretty sure it's his heel that's bothering him.
Blocked a shot in his last game of the season.
I missed where someone said Krug was as good or better than Karlsson.
That's not true.
Krug is a good young puck moving defenseman.
Karlsson is the best defenseman in the league.
He as good as there has been in 25 years or more. Injured or not.
Overall, both teams match up really well.
Injuries and coaching give the Sens a slight edge right now.
Bruins in 7.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Apr 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Karlsson is not playing on one leg like you previously mentioned, he may have a nagging injury but it's not restricting him from doing anything. Ottawa better start working on a lifetime contract if this is one leg production
- highstick87


john holmes had a good career on one leg
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Apr 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
He is playing on one leg, man, if you watch him regularly you can tell this is not even close to his best hockey, he is at half speed and has much less mobility compared to his normal pace. No one can deny it anymore, even when playing on an injured foot and having his ice time increased, unlike Chara, he remains effective. He is the best d man in hockey, hands down, even when playing half as effectively as he normally does.

Karlsson at half health is still better than a fully healthy Krug, and I'm sorry you guys just can't admit it.

- ahjnkn



yeah,... lets see how effective Karlsson is at 40. We all know chara has lost a step or 3, but even 2 years ago, before his knee injury, he was a solid #1 defensman. Bruins problem now is they have no #1 defensman, or a #2, even with a full lineup, but I got high hopes and a pants tent for MacAvoy
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Apr 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
My comment was to outline the fact that Boston is missing half of their defense. Take away Chara and the total NHL games played between the other five is under 150 combined.

Krug is one of the top pick moving defensemen in the league, Mcquaid is a good defensive d who would have helped in both games lost on the pk essentially. And Carlo s Carlo, basically our best all around d-man.

I'm not crying, I'm living with it. You wanna win a series based off of bs calls and overturned goals ? Congrats. Good luck when you play the rangers or Montreal roster, not the providence Bruins
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Apr 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
I pretty much agree with the consensus here. Frustrating to have all these injuries and just some downright bad luck in this series when you knew the team would be up against it anyway. My only real beef with the team right now is the lack of ice for Vatrano. The kids not perfect but he's one of the best shooters on the team and he's been hustling all series. What do they expect him to do playing 10 min a night on Spooners wing? The teams struggling to score so they slot Schaller over him on line 2? I really thought he'd be a big factor this series cuz he's one of those guys that it doesn't matter how badly he or the team is playing, he only needs a second to make a difference. You know, kinda like how he turned game 1 around. Play the kid with Krejci and Pasta and BAM very dangerous line
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Apr 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
Nobody here respects the Sens. Their feelings are hurt.

ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Apr 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
My comment was to outline the fact that Boston is missing half of their defense. Take away Chara and the total NHL games played between the other five is under 150 combined.

Krug is one of the top pick moving defensemen in the league, Mcquaid is a good defensive d who would have helped in both games lost on the pk essentially. And Carlo s Carlo, basically our best all around d-man.

I'm not crying, I'm living with it. You wanna win a series based off of bs calls and overturned goals ? Congrats. Good luck when you play the rangers or Montreal roster, not the providence Bruins

- Videoj


I'm not denying the quality of your roster when healthy, all I was saying is Karlsson at 50% is still better than Krug fully healthy. No question, and I like Krug a lot as a player fwiw.

Again, this series isn't over and there could be a lot more controversial bs to come for both teams. However, it's not our fault your team is offside when they enter the zone and we have sharp eyed spotters who catch it when they score. It's not our fault Nash was undisciplined and stupid in game 3 or that Chara can't clear a puck properly like he used to when he was playing for us. Your team is responsible for its own screw ups, not the refs or us.

I feel your pain with the D corps, we were in the same boat for the last 10 games of the regular season where Karlsson, Methot and Ceci were all out injured. Yet we were still able to win some key games. Maybe next year you can take us on at full strength and we'll see what happens, but the main issue with your team so far is they can't score a timely goal. I'm hoping the last couple of games are more firewagon hockey, but that's unlikely.
Videoj
Boston Bruins
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 01.20.2015

Apr 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
I pretty much agree with the consensus here. Frustrating to have all these injuries and just some downright bad luck in this series when you knew the team would be up against it anyway. My only real beef with the team right now is the lack of ice for Vatrano. The kids not perfect but he's one of the best shooters on the team and he's been hustling all series. What do they expect him to do playing 10 min a night on Spooners wing? The teams struggling to score so they slot Schaller over him on line 2? I really thought he'd be a big factor this series cuz he's one of those guys that it doesn't matter how badly he or the team is playing, he only needs a second to make a difference. You know, kinda like how he turned game 1 around. Play the kid with Krejci and Pasta and BAM very dangerous line
- Shaundre93


I agree. But I liked Stafford there as well. V or staff work on the second, not schaller.

But maybe they do have the right idea and should spread the talent a bit to prevent karlssson from shutting us down.

Marchand Bergeron Vatrano
Pasta Krej stafford
Belesky Spooner Backes
Nash Moore acciari
ahjnkn
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.16.2008

Apr 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
And for those who prefer a 'non-biased' opinion of what's happening on the ice:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...ating-the-bruins-1.729355

Halfday77
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.09.2017

Apr 20 @ 6:27 PM ET
Disagree, guys who usually put the puck in the net are missing wide or missing the puck all together,(Marchant I'm talking about you) Bruins are so thin at D Sens should be winning by 4 goals a game, and they arent. Sens are winning because of mistakes the Bruins are making, not because they are outplaying them.
- 77emac77


Limiting chances against and capitalizing on your opponents mistakes is called being the better team. This is like saying the only reason McDavid gets so much room is because opposing D are afraid of getting burned. Thats the whole point. Thats why it works.

Halfday77
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.09.2017

Apr 20 @ 6:29 PM ET
My comment was to outline the fact that Boston is missing half of their defense. Take away Chara and the total NHL games played between the other five is under 150 combined.

Krug is one of the top pick moving defensemen in the league, Mcquaid is a good defensive d who would have helped in both games lost on the pk essentially. And Carlo s Carlo, basically our best all around d-man.

I'm not crying, I'm living with it. You wanna win a series based off of bs calls and overturned goals ? Congrats. Good luck when you play the rangers or Montreal roster, not the providence Bruins

- Videoj


Uhhhh thats a lot of crying right there
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Apr 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
And for those who prefer a 'non-biased' opinion of what's happening on the ice:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...ating-the-bruins-1.729355

- ahjnkn


Yost unbiased

Seriously, Karlsson is great but if he is "Dominating the Bruins" en route to 2 ot wins and a 1-0 win you guys are in deep trouble going forward
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Apr 20 @ 7:22 PM ET
And for those who prefer a 'non-biased' opinion of what's happening on the ice:

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/...ating-the-bruins-1.729355

- ahjnkn

Good read.
Thanks for sharing.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 21 @ 6:37 AM ET
Yost unbiased

Seriously, Karlsson is great but if he is "Dominating the Bruins" en route to 2 ot wins and a 1-0 win you guys are in deep trouble going forward

- Shaundre93


Actually, if you go read Yost's blogs since he's been at TSN, he's been trashing the Sens! (kinda sucks as he was our blogger at Hockeybuzz)

He even picked Boston to win this series (in 6 I think) in a prediction article...so yeah, Yost can only be blamed to be biased towards analytics!
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Apr 21 @ 8:30 AM ET
Actually, if you go read Yost's blogs since he's been at TSN, he's been trashing the Sens! (kinda sucks as he was our blogger at Hockeybuzz)

He even picked Boston to win this series (in 6 I think) in a prediction article...so yeah, Yost can only be blamed to be biased towards analytics!

- Raven33


The Bruins proved this season corsi is bunk.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Apr 21 @ 8:54 AM ET
The Bruins proved this season corsi is bunk.
- glove_was_stuck

If you guys win tonight that's pretty franking impressive! Being down 3 dman is crazy, but if you don't? Having Carlo and Mcavoy next season for a full year will be something to be excited about! Good luck guys with the rest of the way
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Apr 21 @ 9:06 AM ET
If you guys win tonight that's pretty franking impressive! Being down 3 dman is crazy, but if you don't? Having Carlo and Mcavoy next season for a full year will be something to be excited about! Good luck guys with the rest of the way
- MR.Hunter


Thank you sir! The future looks good for sure. While not expecting this many injuries I wasn't under any delusions the B's would advance to round 2. They're not deep enough up front. Still need to address scoring depth as they're paper at wings and way too many plumbers.

Please eliminate Capitals. So NBC will have to find new Richards to suck since the Hawks got swept.
Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Apr 21 @ 9:40 AM ET
The Bruins proved this season corsi is bunk.
- glove_was_stuck


What! Corsi is the be-all and end-all of hockey!!
Signed - Tom Rowe
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Apr 21 @ 10:07 AM ET
What! Corsi is the be-all and end-all of hockey!!
Signed - Tom Rowe

- Raven33




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