You guys are unbelievable. Why don't we all just stick to the facts instead of gossiping?

He had 33 points in 66 games with the canucks. That's good.
He has 99 points in in 210 games with buffalo. That's good.
He had 8 points in 39 games with the preds. That's not good.

He's performed better over the years than your average 1st rounder. If he had an attitude problem he wouldn't be working for the last team he played for.

Maybe, just maybe a few teams he played for had the attitude problem. Hmmm.
- bloatedmosquito

Didn't have the foot speed, wasn't defensively responsible. Wasn't learning. Wasn't improving.

No, I just don't have patience for entitled princesses. Virtanen may be a bust but at least he has a good attitude.
- CanuckDon

by coming to camp in his second, pivotal season looking like a fat blob? Are you kidding me?

by coming to camp in his second, pivotal season looking like a fat blob? Are you kidding me?
- bloatedmosquito

So he can eat the competition.

Wonder if there will be any shuffling of that department this year.
- manvanfan

I would like to think they are always tinkering with their scouting staff. Fresh eyes will never hurt. I'm pretty sure thought with JB's back round that his scouts are given specifics to look for in players.

Didn't have the foot speed, wasn't defensively responsible. Wasn't learning. Wasn't improving.
- manvanfan

But why does that have to be by choice? Might be other factors than attitude that cause those things to happen.

But either way it's untrue. Why doesn't anyone acknowledge his numbers? People talk about impressions more than they talk about facts. It's (frank)ing horsepoop.

You guys are unbelievable. Why don't we all just stick to the facts instead of gossiping?

He had 33 points in 66 games with the canucks. That's good.
He has 99 points in 210 games with buffalo. That's good.
He had 8 points in 39 games with the preds. That's not good.

He's performed better over the years than your average 1st rounder. If he had an attitude problem he wouldn't be working for the last team he played for.

Maybe, just maybe a few teams he played for had the attitude problem. Hmmm.
- bloatedmosquito

Oh sh!t you were being serious?

His last yr in Van Gillis said they sheltered him to offer him up in a trade, good matchups, ozone starts, PP time. He did have a cpl ok yrs in Buffalo but that was it. He was a top 6 player but did perform that way and last yr he was awful in Nashville.

So he can eat the competition.
- SRam19

I have no problem having a wrong opinion but some of the poop posted on this site is (frank)ing crazy.

Virt with a good attitude? Holy (frank) I've read it all now.

by coming to camp in his second, pivotal season looking like a fat blob? Are you kidding me?
- bloatedmosquito

What's funny about that is he worked in Van all summer with the Van staff!

You guys are unbelievable. Why don't we all just stick to the facts instead of gossiping?

He had 33 points in 66 games with the canucks. That's good.
He has 99 points in 210 games with buffalo. That's good.
He had 8 points in 39 games with the preds. That's not good.

He's performed better over the years than your average 1st rounder. If he had an attitude problem he wouldn't be working for the last team he played for.

Maybe, just maybe a few teams he played for had the attitude problem. Hmmm.
- bloatedmosquito

I said kassian not coho

You guys are unbelievable. Why don't we all just stick to the facts instead of gossiping?

He had 33 points in 66 games with the canucks. That's good.
He has 99 points in 210 games with buffalo. That's good.
He had 8 points in 39 games with the preds. That's not good.

He's performed better over the years than your average 1st rounder. If he had an attitude problem he wouldn't be working for the last team he played for.

Maybe, just maybe a few teams he played for had the attitude problem. Hmmm.
- bloatedmosquito

People don't like it when other people point out facts...

I have no problem having a wrong opinion but some of the poop posted on this site is (frank)ing crazy.

Virt with a good attitude? Holy (frank) I've read it all now.


- bloatedmosquito

Live footage of Virtanen improving his defensive game by blocking shots.

Oh sh!t you were being serious?

His last yr in Van Gillis said they sheltered him to offer him up in a trade, good matchups, ozone starts, PP time. He did have a cpl ok yrs in Buffalo but that was it. He was a top 6 player but did perform that way and last yr he was awful in Nashville.
- Kaynine

So now you're quoting Gillis? (frank)ING (frank)!

So what are you saying that it's because of a poor attitude and other character flaws that caused his demise?

I don't by the foot speed issue. Lots of players have had long careers that were slow by NHL standards. And that doesn't explain the 64 NHL goals.
Were all those handed to him on a silver platter?
Were his points in buffalo a result of playing on a stacked team?

I'm not a cody fan but I'm going to call out BS when a bunch of you guys get all female dogy and saying stupid poop.

The kid made the NHL because he wanted it and deserved to be drafted. And you bunch point to character flaws that are speculative at best and ignore what's probable. Because it's more fun right?

What's funny about that is he worked in Van all summer with the Van staff!
- Kaynine

Kay that's what I'm kind of pointing at here. We all like to blame the players when they don't work out here but it's not always the players fault.

I said kassian not coho
- SMBDragon

You're all one big mass of poop to me.

remember this is my field. I treat professional athletes fairly regularly. Trust me this is not a serious injury. If he isnt getting the proper treatment he will suffer sure, but it is totally treatable and if done right wont hinder him playing in the nhl
- SMBDragon

He had a torn ligament in his spine, it was miss diagnosed as a muscle strain. Cody hired his own doctor for a second opinion and than it was found.

AV dragged his name through the mud, and questioned his character which soured him on the organization.

He also battled chronic ledfootitis throughout his career and wad never able to get it successfully treated even though he saw many professionals to try and help him deal with it. This slowly built up scar tissue in his ankles and calfs, slowly growing into multipe blisters of cinderblockfoot, sadly its since been diagnosed that Bonino suffers from the same ailment.

You're all one big mass of poop to me.
- bloatedmosquito

He had a torn ligament in his spine, it was miss diagnosed as a muscle strain. Cody hired his own doctor for a second opinion and than it was found.

AV dragged his name through the mud, and questioned his character which shouted him on the organization.

Hee also battled chronic ledfootitis throughout his career and wad never able to get it successfully treated even though he saw many professionals to try and help him deal with it. This slowly built up scar tissue in his ankles and calfs, slowly growing into multipe blisters of cinderblockfoot, sadly its since been diagnosed that Bonino suffers from the same ailment.
- Pres.cup

No! It's bad attitude. Don't question The Dragon.

He had a torn ligament in his spine, it was miss diagnosed as a muscle strain. Cody hired his own doctor for a second opinion and than it was found.

AV dragged his name through the mud, and questioned his character which shouted him on the organization.

Hee also battled chronic ledfootitis throughout his career and wad never able to get it successfully treated even though he saw many professionals to try and help him deal with it. This slowly built up scar tissue in his ankles and calfs, slowly growing into multipe blisters of cinderblockfoot, sadly its since been diagnosed that Bonino suffers from the same ailment.
- Pres.cup

again not a serious injury....6 weeks and should be 100%

No! It's bad attitude. Don't question The Dragon.
- bloatedmosquito

I didnt claim it to be bad attitude. I dont doubt that is was but I didnt claim that here

again not a serious injury....6 weeks and should be 100%
- SMBDragon

Stop. It was misdiagnosed and mistreated as a disk hernia for two seasons.

Are you saying all back injuries of this magnitude are 100% recoverable? That's the percentage real doctors give the patient when diagnosed?

I didnt claim it to be bad attitude. I dont doubt that is was but I didnt claim that here
- SMBDragon

I'm sorry, then what were you claiming if it wasn't injury? Slow skating?

Stop. It was misdiagnosed and mistreated as a disk hernia for two seasons.

Are you saying all back injuries of this magnitude are 100% recoverable? That's the percentage real doctors give the patient when diagnosed?
- bloatedmosquito

stop what?
Yes Im saying its 100% recoverable.
I have a long history working with herniated discs. Its not difficult either if treated right.....sadly it is often not done right with other practitioners due to lack of knowledge with it.

Luckily I did extra study on it

by coming to camp in his second, pivotal season looking like a fat blob? Are you kidding me?
- bloatedmosquito

He has lost the weight and his coach said he is working his ass off. Yes, he is demonstrating a good attitude. perhaps he learned from his mistakes?

Stop. It was misdiagnosed and mistreated as a disk hernia for two seasons.

Are you saying all back injuries of this magnitude are 100% recoverable? That's the percentage real doctors give the patient when diagnosed?
- bloatedmosquito

As someone who suffers from severe chronic back problems from a variety of diseases, Dragon is the last person I would seek help from. I would probably get better care from the doctor in "The Marathon Man".

I have no problem having a wrong opinion but some of the poop posted on this site is (frank)ing crazy.

Virt with a good attitude? Holy (frank) I've read it all now.


- bloatedmosquito

Why don't you listen to coach Green?