Yes, to summarize, we all have copious amounts of our coworker's man junk germs on our hands.
- jmatchett383

If you think about it, you then go on to touch the bathroom door, maybe he goes into the cafeteria and grabs coffee or opens the fridge...maybe he leaves and uses the front door to the office, or makes some copies/sends some faxes

Yes, to summarize, we all have copious amounts of our coworker's man junk germs on our hands.
- jmatchett383

Do you eat unwrapped/unpackaged treats and snacks that coworkers leave out? Nfw I do. I'm not at all interested in eating nut sack pretzels.

If you think about it, you then go on to touch the bathroom door, maybe he goes into the cafeteria and grabs coffee or opens the fridge...maybe he leaves and uses the front door to the office, or makes some copies/sends some faxes
- YuenglingJagr

I go through hand sanitizer at work like it's going out of style. People are disgusting.

I don't think you would
- Scoob

I'm a jerk.

People are disgusting, use elbows
- Scoob

I'm not going through some crazy Zimbabwean hooka type dance just so I don't get some germs on my hands from the bathroom that I'm going to get somewhere else in the office throughout the course of my day.

I'm a jerk.
- jmatchett383

lol
I would just stare you down until you moved. Or until someone opened the door and knocked you out of the way.

Do you eat unwrapped/unpackaged treats and snacks that coworkers leave out? Nfw I do. I'm not at all interested in eating nut sack pretzels.
- Scoob

That's called "seasoning."

And hell yeah, if someone brings in donuts, I am having a donut.

lol
I would just stare you down until you moved. Or until someone opened the door and knocked you out of the way.
- Scoob

You're mean.

On a similar note: why do some guys feel the need to sound like they just ran a half marathon while pooping? Yeah, you need to squeeze a bit while you're getting it out, but my god, the deep breathing is unsettling as (frank).

That's called "seasoning."

And hell yeah, if someone brings in donuts, I am having a donut.
- jmatchett383

Donuts are different. They're a one-and-done thing. I'm talking about bulk stuff that people stick their disgusting hands into. No thanks.

I also generally don't eat food that people make at home. I have a very short list of coworkers whose food I trust.

On a similar note: why do some guys feel the need to sound like they just ran a half marathon while pooping? Yeah, you need to squeeze a bit while you're getting it out, but my god, the deep breathing is unsettling as (frank).
- jmatchett383

i carry around bags to pee in and my own hand santizier

Flyers need improvement in skill level, get rid of some of the 4th line players on the team, and there are several. Couturier for me has always been overrated. For me, he's nothing but a 3rd or 4th line player at best so far, probably because of the way he was utilized early on by coaches. The same way Flyer coaches ruined a young Zubrus.
- twpguy

If Couturier is a 4th line player, I must be watching a different NHL then you are.

No one is ever a perfect comparison but he's not a unique talent in the NHL right now. It's pretty easy to see that he holds his own against draft mates in Hanifin and Werenski. MacAvoy, Ekblad, Jones, Dumba... to varying degrees of playing style and experience but mostly value to their team.

It's his rookie year, no one on here should get excited about trading Provorov. Some people see a Norris in his future but he's going to have to do a lot more to get in that conversation when you look at the kids he'll be competing with during his career.

Provorov for a young talented center is beyond just a bold move but I think for the conversation on here and all the influence we obviously peddle when it comes to NHL decision making it's not the worst topic to consider.
- mayorofangrytown

Fun topic to discuss but unless that number one center is a future superstar, I wouldn't trade Provorov. He's about as untouchable as it gets on the Flyers in my opinion. Both positions are really important but a #1 defenseman is more important than a #1 center in my opinion.

Well that's NEVER happening.

It's cool sounding to say that but you're implying he's the second best player in the league and he isn't even the second best defensemen under 21 in the league. At some point you either have to be realistic in your evals or you'll just be stewing in your own juices hoping for the best.

I'm not trading the kid for a ball of twine and three wishes here. I'm trading him for a number one center that's just one year his senior. A player at a position we may spend 5-10 years trying to acquire otherwise.
- mayorofangrytown

When considering a trade of Provorov it's not just about the player he is now, it's about the player you think he'll become in the future also.

When considering a trade of Provorov it's not just about the player he is now, it's about the player you think he'll become in the future also.
- MJL

There's a few young " franchise" type centres I would move him for....but that's not happening. Provorov is only going to get better. He really has a chance to be a franchise defenceman and in most scenarios those guys don't get moved.

There's a few young " franchise" type centres I would move him for....but that's not happening. Provorov is only going to get better. He really has a chance to be a franchise defenceman and in most scenarios those guys don't get moved.

- landros 2

McDavid obviously then who? Scheifele, Matthews?

Well that's NEVER happening.

It's cool sounding to say that but you're implying he's the second best player in the league and he isn't even the second best defensemen under 21 in the league. At some point you either have to be realistic in your evals or you'll just be stewing in your own juices hoping for the best.

I'm not trading the kid for a ball of twine and three wishes here. I'm trading him for a number one center that's just one year his senior. A player at a position we may spend 5-10 years trying to acquire otherwise.
- mayorofangrytown

I think he is the second best Dman under 21 in the league currently actually. I think Elkbad is better overall, but I think Provy is better than Werenski, currently anyways. Werenksi piled up the PP points, but he was also played on the top PP for the Blue Jackets.

I think if you were to put Provy in the same place, he can pick up more points on the back end, maybe not 19 but certainly low teens. But, as I mentioned this AM, he's never going to see PP1 minutes for extended periods of time behind Ghost and Sanheim.

I think he is the second best Dman under 21 in the league currently actually. I think Elkbad is better overall
- VladDrag

I feel like it's not common knowledge that Ekblad is one of the most sheltered d-men in the league. Like almost Ghost sheltered. He did well his first two years as a teen, but he still has a ton to prove IMO. He's also coming off a nightmare season of regression: be it due to health concerns (which could be worrisome long-term), his game flatlining, and/or losing his rock in Brian Campbell. Because right now I think he's basically a sheltered 3rd pair PP specialist, and he's not even that good on the PP. Amazingly he doesn't even PK regularly. Provorov this season alone had ~100 minutes more PK time than Ekblad has in 3 years.

I think Provorov had a better season than any of Ekblad's first 3 years and is better right now by a good margin. He legitimately can stake claim to being a top pair guy already. I see the gap between their defensive abilities as sizable. They're similar offensively though.

I feel like it's not common knowledge that Ekblad is one of the most sheltered d-men in the league. Like almost Ghost sheltered. He did well his first two years as a teen -- if you want to ignore this nightmarish regressive season, which probably came down to injuries and losing his rock in Campbell -- but he still has a ton to prove IMO. Because right now I think he's basically a 3rd pair PP specialist, and he's not even that good on the PP. Amazingly he doesn't even PK regularly. Provorov this season alone had ~100 minutes more PK time than Ekblad has in 3 years.

I think Provorov had a better season than any of Ekblad's first 3 years and is better right now by a good margin.
- Mononoke

He had a bad season this year, but I do think it's more to do with his injuries.

You're right. I didn't know how sheltered he was.

Going back to Provy, right now I think he's the best D-man under 21. But I do admit I see with orange and black glasses most of the time.

washington connects on their first two shots?

I've watched a fair amount of his play across the last three seasons. I don't see the "grenade on his stick" puck play. He makes a quick, safe first pass out of the zone.

He's like every defender. If you really want to sit and examine every play under a microscope he's not going to be perfect just like the never ending "Ghost can't play D/is horrible in his own end" posts on here.

I hope his play next season brings you around to a happier conclusion.
- mayorofangrytown

I've seen him probably a dozen times over the past couple years. I mean grenade on the stick in that he has trouble escaping under pressure many times and I'll think he will struggle with the tempo of the NHL for awhile. I don't think he's bad. Even over the weekend he rushed a pass to a forward on a breakout that resulted in the puck being in the back of the phantoms net. I think it's possible he could improve further under the structured breakouts. Also a player like Morin better be damn near perfect in his d zone if he's going to make it...he ain't bringing much at the other end.

There's a few young " franchise" type centres I would move him for....but that's not happening. Provorov is only going to get better. He really has a chance to be a franchise defenceman and in most scenarios those guys don't get moved.

- landros 2

its hard to name seven or eight more valuable long term assets in the entire nhl.

i carry around bags to pee in and my own hand santizier
- Mordecai

I feel like it's not common knowledge that Ekblad is one of the most sheltered d-men in the league. Like almost Ghost sheltered. He did well his first two years as a teen, but he still has a ton to prove IMO. He's also coming off a nightmare season of regression: be it due to health concerns (which could be worrisome long-term), his game flatlining, and/or losing his rock in Brian Campbell. Because right now I think he's basically a sheltered 3rd pair PP specialist, and he's not even that good on the PP. Amazingly he doesn't even PK regularly. Provorov this season alone had ~100 minutes more PK time than Ekblad has in 3 years.

I think Provorov had a better season than any of Ekblad's first 3 years and is better right now by a good margin. He legitimately can stake claim to being a top pair guy already. I see the gap between their defensive abilities as sizable. They're similar offensively though.
- Mononoke

Didn't know this about Ekblad. Did know he had a down year but wow figured he PKed for them.

Provorov is rare. I'm a big fan. He looks like he's on autopilot in the d zone especially, which is exciting bc he definitely has room to improve offensively. It's easy to take much of what he does for granted because hes so damn smooth and effortless. I would not trade him for Draistl