Lower body injury.

Not sure why the have to be so cute here.
- Atomic Wedgie

yeah if he is done for the playoffs he is done... just call it what it is... its not like the opposition can target it when he comes back since... well... he isn't coming back

In the immediate future and with respect to the playoffs, you are correct. With proper planning going forward though, that should be his last game in blue and white (which is an unfortunate way to go out, of course).
- lumlums

I'm not sold on replacing him next year (barring career ending injury). He has been getting better as the season went on. Playing bottom pair with PK minutes has fit his game. I wouldn't be upset if he was resigned to 1yr/ 1.5m contract. Would give our prospects another year to round out their game.

Watch the video, all kinds of ligaments doing the cha-cha-cha, marimba, and salsa on the ice.
- gravyface

I saw it... and it didn't look good... maybe its a multiple of things

I'm not sold on replacing him next year (barring career ending injury). He has been getting better as the season went on. Playing bottom pair with PK minutes has fit his game. I wouldn't be upset if he was resigned to 1yr/ 1.5m contract. Would give our prospects another year to round out their game.
- willdjr75

yeah... and he is a right handed shot... the two most ready leaf d men in the minors are both lefties... and babcock has a penchant for the leftie rightie d pairings

I think there's a real good chance that this D core can evolve into something that's respected around the league.

I didn't realize what an arrogant douche bag Justin Williams is. (frank) him.
- Matthews_Auston

I was considering him as a FA add but he can't handle the media asking him questions at all

I think there's a real good chance that this D core can evolve into something that's respected around the league.
- gravyface

They have some good NHL D men, the problem is they only have 3 or 4 of them. Was it Pat Burns that said you need at least 8 for the playoffs?

I think there's a real good chance that this D core can evolve into something that's respected around the league.
- gravyface

Gardiner has turned it on in both playoff experience's so far.

They have some good NHL D men, the problem is they only have 3 or 4 of them. Was it Pat Burns that said you need at least 8 for the playoffs?
- Zezel

I wonder if Shattenkirk is liking the Leafs so far?

The Leafs are on his list

yeah... and he is a right handed shot... the two most ready leaf d men in the minors are both lefties... and babcock has a penchant for the leftie rightie d pairings
- Dozzer

Ya they should be able to fix the defense next year hopefully? A free agent, a trade ,and maybe even one of the kids are ready for bottom pairing assignments? But I'm blown away by the effort so far!

They have some good NHL D men, the problem is they only have 3 or 4 of them. Was it Pat Burns that said you need at least 8 for the playoffs?
- Zezel

I think the Pens showed that mediocre D with great forwards can get it done.

Not saying all the Pens d are mediocre but I'm sure their bottom guys are not a lot better then the rest of the teams in the league.

Ya they should be able to fix the defense next year hopefully? A free agent, a trade ,and maybe even one of the kids are ready for bottom pairing assignments? But I'm blown away by the effort so far!
- MR.Hunter

Id love a Shattenkirk signing and a Manson trade.

Reilly-Zaitzev
Gardiner-Shattenkirk
???-Manson
Polak/Carrick

Gardiner has turned it on in both playoff experience's so far.
- Santo_44

We need him to be great if we want to move on.

Id love a Shattenkirk signing and a Manson trade.

Reilly-Zaitzev
Gardiner-Shattenkirk
???-Manson
Polak
- Santo_44

Carrick would be ok on the 3rd pair maybe?

I'd have Shat's on top pair myself.

We need him to be great if we want to move on.
- Garnie

Yep

Him and Reilly need to keep stepping up.

Hunwick hasn't been poop either. That's helping

I wonder if Shattenkirk is liking the Leafs so far?

The Leafs are on his list
- Santo_44

He can't help but notice they have a job opening. He'll get a good look at the city this week. Then the Leafs will drive a dump truck full of money up to his house.

Carrick would be ok on the 3rd pair maybe?

I'd have Shat's on top pair myself.
- Garnie

Yep. I forgot about him so I put him battling with Polak.

Think Babs would ever try a Righty on the left side? I'd love for Carick to slide the the left side on the 3rd pairing if possible

Yep

Him and Reilly need to keep stepping up.

Hunwick hasn't been poop either. That's helping
- Santo_44

Yep, they've all been hanging in there.

We can win this series with a couple bounces

He can't help but notice they have a job opening. He'll get a good look at the city this week. Then the Leafs will drive a dump truck full of money up to his house.
- Zezel

He handled himself really well in his interview last night. I don't think the
Media bothers him which is a huge box to be checked off if you want to play for the Leafs

I think the Pens showed that mediocre D with great forwards can get it done.

Not saying all the Pens d are mediocre but I'm sure their bottom guys are not a lot better then the rest of the teams in the league.
- Garnie

This.

I think fans and media still see the D world through Duncan Keith coloured glasses.

He's a freak show; stop looking for him, you won't find him.

What you can find are serviceable NHL D that are an upgrade over Hunlak, don't cost much, and fill a hole.

Add a committed team to a system they all buy into, and you have yourselves a competitive playoff team every year.

Id love a Shattenkirk signing and a Manson trade.

Reilly-Zaitzev
Gardiner-Shattenkirk
???-Manson
Polak/Carrick
- Santo_44

Ya interesting but I'd rather maybe have alzner? Very durable, plays a solid game ,sort of stay at home if you will,and at 5.8 for five years, shatty probably gets 7×7 from the Rangers!

Ya they should be able to fix the defense next year hopefully? A free agent, a trade ,and maybe even one of the kids are ready for bottom pairing assignments? But I'm blown away by the effort so far!
- MR.Hunter

agreed!

leaving Washington with the series tied after 2 overtime games is a huge accomplishment for this young team.... the trick for babcock will be to keep them focused for game 3 with all the hype and fanfare going on in toronto

Ya interesting but I'd rather maybe have alzner? Very durable, plays a solid game ,sort of stay at home if you will,and at 5.8 for five years, shatty probably gets 7×7 from the Rangers!
- MR.Hunter

For the extra 1.2 I'll take Shat's and move Martin to get the 1.2 back

This.

I think fans and media still see the D world through Duncan Keith coloured glasses.

He's a freak show; stop looking for him, you won't find him.

What you can find are serviceable NHL D that are an upgrade over Hunlak, don't cost much, and fill a hole.

Add a committed team to a system they all buy into, and you have yourselves a competitive playoff team every year.
- gravyface

I agree with this... it doesn't have to be a superstar... which frankly would only get the leafs into cap trouble when the kids are coming off their ELCs

what they need are solid dependable guys who aren't flashy who can get it done in their own zone and are effective on the PK

agreed!

leaving Washington with the series tied after 2 overtime games is a huge accomplishment for this young team.... the trick for babcock will be to keep them focused for game 3 with all the hype and fanfare going on in toronto
- Dozzer

I find they play better on the road - maybe it's just me.