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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
you won the Kane trade? seriously? Myers and Stafford have more points in a Jets jersey than Kane and Bogo in a Sabres. Armia is looking like a solid player we are afraid to lose in expansion, Lemieux is shaping up to be the future pest/poop disturber our team needs and Jack Raslovik will be an excellent 2nd line center in the NHL if not top line center.
- Ross77

It was a slam dunk jets win until this season.
It's at least close now.
SABRes fans are choosing to immediately forget all his off ice issues and avg play.
To be fair, He was quite the snipe this year. Still doesn't negate everything else
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
kane and bogosian 125 points
Myers and Stafford 107 points
Seriously
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
Tim Murray's only crime thus far as been not improving the D one iota this off season. The Lehner trade (while a bit of an overpayment) isn't as bad as people make it out to be. He fleeced Colorado for O'Reilly, and I'd say we won the Kane trade, unless Armia takes a giant leap next year. Psysk for Kulikov was bad, i'll give you that. Give him this off season. If the Sabres aren't on the cusp of a playoff spot, look elsewhere.
- BatFan88


Whoever gets best player in deal usually wins...Kane, for all his wars off the ice, is definitely best player in deal. Chevaldayoff gives up the 3rd, 4th, and 8th overall picks in draft and got Myers ( has he ever been healthy )
Stafford 2years 9 million is a loss any way you look at
Armia 4th liner
Lemieux 4th liner
Roslovic maybe a 3rd liner, definitely not a 1st or 2nd liner
This is typical of Chevy's reign of error, high picks like 3rd, 4th, and 8th should form the team's core, more asset mismanagement, wasn't a big fan of Birmistrov
but to lose him on wavers for nothing was ridiculous. Put him on wavers and keep
Petan on team??.0 goals in last 52 games, and some games he played more on pp
than Laine, maybe coaching needs to be addressed too.
the core of your team
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 16 @ 3:48 PM ET
kane and bogosian 125 points
Myers and Stafford 107 points
Seriously

- Moosejuice17

So maybe I looked a little while ago, oh well . Still a home run for the jets
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 16 @ 3:49 PM ET
It was a slam dunk jets win until this season.
It's at least close now.
SABRes fans are choosing to immediately forget all his off ice issues and avg play.
To be fair, He was quite the snipe this year. Still doesn't negate everything else

- HB77

I also don't see Kane re signing there, he will either wait and see what he can get as a UFA or want to go to California, Florida or Vegas. The Sabres will be better off
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 16 @ 3:49 PM ET
kane and bogosian 125 points
Myers and Stafford 107 points
Seriously

- Moosejuice17

Or maybe I was counting Armia?
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 16 @ 4:28 PM ET


Saw this blog comin as soon as they potted that winner. Helluva game. It's fun when u got not stake in it. No stress.
Well played and congrats

And yes, gardiner was fantastic last night.
It's funny too, cause the last time I remember thinking that was the last time the leafs were in the playoffs. Big game player?

But I take back my preds as good a 8 seed as leafs back.
They're better. No goals against in 2 games and dominant against a dynasty team.

Big lebowski is the greatest movie ever. Any movie that the 50th time you see still has some brilliant moment that you didn't fully pick up on the other 49 is pretty Amazing stuff

Cows milk is for baby cows. I ain't preaching or anything, just think it's gross.

More smiths and the cure please. Before my time but I'm an old soul

- HB77


Ah, you overrate the Hawks. They're not the same team that you think they are. At this point, I don't think they're much better than Nashville or eve Toronto. They've lost so much of their depth.

I do agree Big Lebowski is a great movie, but the greatest movie ever is Back to the Future.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 16 @ 4:28 PM ET
kane and bogosian 125 points
Myers and Stafford 107 points
Seriously

- Moosejuice17


I'll take Kane as the best player in the trade by far.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 16 @ 5:03 PM ET


Saw this blog comin as soon as they potted that winner. Helluva game. It's fun when u got not stake in it. No stress.
Well played and congrats

And yes, gardiner was fantastic last night.
It's funny too, cause the last time I remember thinking that was the last time the leafs were in the playoffs. Big game player?

But I take back my preds as good a 8 seed as leafs back.
They're better. No goals against in 2 games and dominant against a dynasty team.

Big lebowski is the greatest movie ever. Any movie that the 50th time you see still has some brilliant moment that you didn't fully pick up on the other 49 is pretty Amazing stuff

Cows milk is for baby cows. I ain't preaching or anything, just think it's gross.

More smiths and the cure please. Before my time but I'm an old soul

- HB77



Wha?????? Cold glass of milk is almost as good as a cold beer after a hockey game

Less Smiths and Cure would be better and I am old

Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
Whoever gets best player in deal usually wins...Kane, for all his wars off the ice, is definitely best player in deal. Chevaldayoff gives up the 3rd, 4th, and 8th overall picks in draft and got Myers ( has he ever been healthy )
Stafford 2years 9 million is a loss any way you look at
Armia 4th liner
Lemieux 4th liner
Roslovic maybe a 3rd liner, definitely not a 1st or 2nd liner
This is typical of Chevy's reign of error, high picks like 3rd, 4th, and 8th should form the team's core, more asset mismanagement, wasn't a big fan of Birmistrov
but to lose him on wavers for nothing was ridiculous. Put him on wavers and keep
Petan on team??.0 goals in last 52 games, and some games he played more on pp
than Laine, maybe coaching needs to be addressed too.
the core of your team

- Moosejuice17


Solid job of not looking at or into anything at all. You just picked the players in the deal and arbitrarily assigned ratings/ceilings to them with no research whatsoever.
Stafford? Yeah, bad. Deal.
Armia? Already a 3rd liner, and carried Lowry and Matthias for most of the season.
Lemieux? Probably not even a 4th liner, but he's a throw in.
Roslovic? Top 9 forward already, with huge upside.
Burmistrov had no value, they made it widely known that he was available for 2 weeks before they waived him.
Petan didn't score because he was with useless players named Tanev and Thorburn. Nobody scores with those two.

But good job, you sure nailed those "points".
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Apr 16 @ 5:15 PM ET
kane and bogosian 125 points
Myers and Stafford 107 points
Seriously

- Moosejuice17




Trading for Kane when he was out for the year was an exceptionally great move almost guaranteeing a bottom finish and thus either McDavid or Eichel. No matter what happens with that trade in the next few years Buffalo won the rights to draft Eichel very likely from the price to acquire Kane.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
Wha?????? Cold glass of milk is almost as good as a cold beer after a hockey game

Less Smiths and Cure would be better and I am old

- Garnie
almost as good as beer??!
I guess there's no accounting for good taste


As far as musical tastes, not something I'll bother debating. As long as your taste doesn't include that cheeseball generic rock music from the late 80s to the early oughts, like creed and abominations of the ilk, I'll respect your difference of opinion
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
Solid job of not looking at or into anything at all. You just picked the players in the deal and arbitrarily assigned ratings/ceilings to them with no research whatsoever.
Stafford? Yeah, bad. Deal.
Armia? Already a 3rd liner, and carried Lowry and Matthias for most of the season.
Lemieux? Probably not even a 4th liner, but he's a throw in.
Roslovic? Top 9 forward already, with huge upside.
Burmistrov had no value, they made it widely known that he was available for 2 weeks before they waived him.
Petan didn't score because he was with useless players named Tanev and Thorburn. Nobody scores with those two.

But good job, you sure nailed those "points".

- Rexypoo

no research? according to TSN, Toronto offered Jets their choice of a 2nd or
Bozak for Birmistrov when he came back from KHL....that's asset mismanagement,
waiting 3 years to trade Kane after his trade request, when he was hurt and an obvious problem - asset mismanagement, could have got all those 'great ' players
from Buffalo just for him if they had traded him at his highest value
Mattias was hurt for half of the year and saying Armia carried both him and Lowry
shows how little you watched the Jets . And all that time Petan was on
the power play.....was he on pp with Thorburn with Tanev then?? You can try
sugar coat Petan's play all you want but 0 goals in 52 games says all you need to know about his season.....research how much time Petan spent on the power play.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Boyhood was the worst Hollywood award bait movie since Crash. Complete garbage.

I agree with you on Sakic. And respect your newfound Flames appreciation, so i will give a pass. May not be much longer where they are topical.

Good for your Leafs. That was a great game.
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 16 @ 6:10 PM ET
Trading for Kane when he was out for the year was an exceptionally great move almost guaranteeing a bottom finish and thus either McDavid or Eichel. No matter what happens with that trade in the next few years Buffalo won the rights to draft Eichel very likely from the price to acquire Kane.
- al3535

It was a great move by Buffalo, if reports out of Buffalo are true the Sabres got rid of three players they didn't want in Myers, Stafford and Armia and Lemieux said he wouldn't report to Buffalo if they kept his rights, and the Jets got a low 1st rounder.
Buffalo made the trade to ensure the future of their franchise, didn't get Mc David but
Eichel is a pretty good consolation prize. Winnipeg traded a Loonie and got back
2 quarters and a couple of dimes- typical of a Gm that is scared to make deals.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 16 @ 6:24 PM ET
almost as good as beer??!
I guess there's no accounting for good taste


As far as musical tastes, not something I'll bother debating. As long as your taste doesn't include that cheeseball generic rock music from the late 80s to the early oughts, like creed and abominations of the ilk, I'll respect your difference of opinion

- HB77


If you don't like a nice cold glass of milk you wouldn't get it.

But I'd probably quit milk before beer

As for music I was just kidding - to each their own...there is no right or wrong.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Apr 16 @ 7:14 PM ET
no research? according to TSN, Toronto offered Jets their choice of a 2nd or
Bozak for Birmistrov when he came back from KHL....that's asset mismanagement,
waiting 3 years to trade Kane after his trade request, when he was hurt and an obvious problem - asset mismanagement, could have got all those 'great ' players
from Buffalo just for him if they had traded him at his highest value
Mattias was hurt for half of the year and saying Armia carried both him and Lowry
shows how little you watched the Jets . And all that time Petan was on
the power play.....was he on pp with Thorburn with Tanev then?? You can try
sugar coat Petan's play all you want but 0 goals in 52 games says all you need to know about his season.....research how much time Petan spent on the power play.

- Moosejuice17


Why would Toronto ever have offered that? Assuming it's true, why would they trade a player they just got back? You don't even know what you have at that point. Not to mention Bozak's contract isn't one you want to take on.
Again, trading a potential top line player because he's a brat isn't a smart move. Once it became clear he wasn't going to be that player, and he alienated himself from the team, they moved him. Roslovic alone makes that even for me.
Petan was also very good on the powerplay, when he was allowed to play. You forget that the Jets PP is brutal as a whole, and Petan's production there will be modest as a result.
I've watched almost every single game, pre season or regular season, this team has played since 2011 (let's say I missed 10 for whatever reasons), and about 100 Thrashers games before that. Burmistrov and Kane were handled about as well as possible. The never trading off our expiring deals for draft picks when you claim to be rebuilding is definitely some annoying "asset mismanagement", I'll give you that.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Apr 16 @ 7:26 PM ET
Boyhood was the worst Hollywood award bait movie since Crash. Complete garbage.

I agree with you on Sakic. And respect your newfound Flames appreciation, so i will give a pass. May not be much longer where they are topical.

Good for your Leafs. That was a great game.

- FLflames34


Crash was a terrible, sentimental overwrought piece of garbage.

Boyhood was a one of the best things I've ever seen. I kinda feel sorry you're so cynical to just completely ignore it like that.
Moosejuice17
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 16 @ 7:32 PM ET
Why would Toronto ever have offered that? Assuming it's true, why would they trade a player they just got back? You don't even know what you have at that point. Not to mention Bozak's contract isn't one you want to take on.
Again, trading a potential top line player because he's a brat isn't a smart move. Once it became clear he wasn't going to be that player, and he alienated himself from the team, they moved him. Roslovic alone makes that even for me.
Petan was also very good on the powerplay, when he was allowed to play. You forget that the Jets PP is brutal as a whole, and Petan's production there will be modest as a result.
I've watched almost every single game, pre season or regular season, this team has played since 2011 (let's say I missed 10 for whatever reasons), and about 100 Thrashers games before that. Burmistrov and Kane were handled about as well as possible. The never trading off our expiring deals for draft picks when you claim to be rebuilding is definitely some annoying "asset mismanagement", I'll give you that.

- Rexypoo

Dreger reported on the Toronto offers, They were moving out older players for younger ones as part of rebuild, don't know if any money was kept as part of deal.
The jets had 2 years to see what Birmistrov could do in NHL ( and 2 in KHL) an east west player in a north south game. If Petan was so good on powerplay, why was it brutal? 100 Thrasher games? That's pretty good, would make you their #1 fan.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Apr 16 @ 7:33 PM ET
Crash was a terrible, sentimental overwrought piece of garbage.

Boyhood was a one of the best things I've ever seen. I kinda feel sorry you're so cynical to just completely ignore it like that.

- James_Tanner

It was like The Lord of the Rings, it would never end. His beyond trilogy was superior in the age gimmick department. And it was overwrought and simplistic in storytelling.

I would rather sit through The Notebook or Love Actually than ever suffer through Crash again. However, the Spader version of Crash was pretty cool.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 16 @ 7:54 PM ET
Whoever gets best player in deal usually wins...Kane, for all his wars off the ice, is definitely best player in deal. Chevaldayoff gives up the 3rd, 4th, and 8th overall picks in draft and got Myers ( has he ever been healthy )
Stafford 2years 9 million is a loss any way you look at
Armia 4th liner
Lemieux 4th liner
Roslovic maybe a 3rd liner, definitely not a 1st or 2nd liner
This is typical of Chevy's reign of error, high picks like 3rd, 4th, and 8th should form the team's core, more asset mismanagement, wasn't a big fan of Birmistrov
but to lose him on wavers for nothing was ridiculous. Put him on wavers and keep
Petan on team??.0 goals in last 52 games, and some games he played more on pp
than Laine, maybe coaching needs to be addressed too.
the core of your team

- Moosejuice17
when did chevy draft those guys? He was cleaning up Atlanta's mess. And you know very little about the Jets.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Apr 16 @ 7:56 PM ET
It was a great move by Buffalo, if reports out of Buffalo are true the Sabres got rid of three players they didn't want in Myers, Stafford and Armia and Lemieux said he wouldn't report to Buffalo if they kept his rights, and the Jets got a low 1st rounder.
Buffalo made the trade to ensure the future of their franchise, didn't get Mc David but
Eichel is a pretty good consolation prize. Winnipeg traded a Loonie and got back
2 quarters and a couple of dimes- typical of a Gm that is scared to make deals.

- Moosejuice17

Hahahahaha, wow you are clueless
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
0:33

Very underrated mid 90's comedy.



Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 16 @ 9:35 PM ET


Edit: I can see why it's viewed as bad now, but then it was awesome.

- tomburton99


It was. I'm not sure how old you are, but when you're like 10 it was the best thing ever. I think it was a red tail when it was a hard shot and a blue one when the puck was in the air on a clear or a dump in.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Apr 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
If you don't like a nice cold glass of milk you wouldn't get it.

But I'd probably quit milk before beer

As for music I was just kidding - to each their own...there is no right or wrong.

- Garnie


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