Some interesting stats through 3 games I heard on the radio on my way into work today.

In the series, with all the shots/shot attempts the Wild have had, only 6 shot attempts have been off of rebounds.



Also, Wild have had 6 shot attempts on odd man rushes. Through 3 games. Wow!



That is a recipe for success.
- carcus

Source of the stats? I'm always looking for new data sources.

Hasn't it always been that way in the NHL? Stars get away with murder and the retaliator gets hosed?

Loving the Leafs! Good coaching, talent, and a positive attitude are carrying them right now.

All of a sudden, Shattenkirk can't hit the net...


- eggsegan

He'll never be a number 1 defenseman. Anyone who pays him big dollars is fooling themselves

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I loved watching him chase behind the net on the third Leafs goal to push, not hit, push the Leafs player that was already engaged with Orpik. Then the guy left alone in front scores after putting in his own rebound. He had time for 2 attempts while Shatty was running around not playing defense.

Which would you rather have:

WSH loses in the first round and the 1st rounder this year that we acquired from them is earlier than expected

OR

WSH advances to the ECF and the 1st rounder is later but we also get their 2019 second.

Which would you rather have:

WSH loses in the first round and the 1st rounder this year that we acquired from them is earlier than expected

OR

WSH advances to the ECF and the 1st rounder is later but we also get their 2019 second.
- Yeah Boyes

Blues Stanley Cup

Which would you rather have:

WSH loses in the first round and the 1st rounder this year that we acquired from them is earlier than expected

OR

WSH advances to the ECF and the 1st rounder is later but we also get their 2019 second.
- Yeah Boyes

Door number 2.

If there's someone they want in between those two first round spots, an extra pick could help you trade up possibly. Otherwise you have two picks versus one.

Door number 2.

If there's someone they want in between those two first round spots, an extra pick could help you trade up possibly. Otherwise you have two picks versus one.
- bcallaway

That's true, good point about trading up. You could probably easily trade up from 28 to 22. I still wouldn't mind seeing them get bounced in the first round.

I loved watching him chase behind the net on the third Leafs goal to push, not hit, push the Leafs player that was already engaged with Orpik. Then the guy left alone in front scores after putting in his own rebound. He had time for 2 attempts while Shatty was running around not playing defense.
- bluenoter

Yeah seeing him chase around the D zone brings back memories, doesn't it? I have to think that the Leafs brass is pleased with their decision not to bite on Shatty at the deadline.

Source of the stats? I'm always looking for new data sources.
- Jason Millen

I was listening to Bernie on my way in and he said it. Here is where he got the data from.

http://www.corsica.hockey/goalies/

I couldn't find anyone doing the "what if" scenarios for NHL point systems. I appreciate them so I broke out a spreadsheet.

In the table, the 2pt system is 2 points for a regulation win, 1 point for a tie at the end of regulation. I think it gives a better idea of how good a team really is when you remove the 3v3/shootout bonus points.

The 3pt system is 3 for a reg win, 2 for OT/SO win, 1 for OT/SO loss.

The table is sorted by 2pt system. I didn't sort the tie breakers, so they are random in the table, but let's say Reg. wins is the first.

Atlantic	Reg. Win	OTW	SOW	OTL/SOL	Ties	Points Orig.	Points 2pt	Points 3pt
Montreal Canadiens	33	11	3	9	23	103	89	136
Boston Bruins	38	4	2	7	13	95	89	133
Ottawa Senators	34	4	6	10	20	98	88	132
Toronto Maple Leafs	33	6	1	15	22	95	88	128
Tampa Bay Lightning	32	6	4	10	20	94	84	126
Buffalo Sabres	25	6	2	12	20	78	70	103
Florida Panthers	23	7	5	11	23	81	69	104
Detroit Red Wings	17	7	9	13	29	79	63	96
Metropolitan	Reg. Win	OTW	SOW	OTL/SOL	Ties	Points Orig.	Points 2pt	Points 3pt
Washington Capitals	45	8	2	8	18	118	108	163
Pittsburgh Penguins	40	6	4	11	21	111	101	151
Columbus Blue Jackets	39	9	2	8	19	108	97	147
New York Rangers	40	5	3	6	14	102	94	142
New York Islanders	33	6	2	12	20	94	86	127
Carolina Hurricanes	28	5	3	15	23	87	79	115
Philadelphia Flyers	25	7	7	10	24	88	74	113
New Jersey Devils	18	7	3	14	24	70	60	88
Central	Reg. Win	OTW	SOW	OTL/SOL	Ties	Points Orig.	Points 2pt	Points 3pt
Minnesota Wild	42	4	3	8	15	106	99	148
Chicago Blackhawks	37	9	4	9	22	109	96	146
St. Louis Blues	38	6	2	7	15	99	91	137
Nashville Predators	35	4	2	12	18	94	88	129
Winnipeg Jets	33	4	3	7	14	87	80	120
Dallas Stars	28	5	1	11	17	79	73	107
Colorado Avalanche	14	7	1	4	12	48	40	62
Pacific	Reg. Win	OTW	SOW	OTL/SOL	Ties	Points Orig.	Points 2pt	Points 3pt
Anaheim Ducks	40	3	3	13	19	105	99	145
Edmonton Oilers	37	6	4	9	19	103	93	140
San Jose Sharks	38	6	2	7	15	99	91	137
Calgary Flames	32	9	4	4	17	94	81	126
Los Angeles Kings	25	12	2	8	22	86	72	111
Arizona Coyotes	20	4	6	10	20	70	60	90
Vancouver Canucks	19	7	4	9	20	69	58	88

The Atlantic coming in with 1 point separating the top 4!

There are no changes to who actually made the playoffs but some drastic changes to seeding (2pt).

In the West
(1W) Minnesota vs (8W) Calgary
(2W) Anaheim vs (7W) Nashville
(2C) Chicago vs (3C) St. Louis
(2P) Edmonton vs (3P) San Jose

In the East
(1E) Washington vs (8E) Toronto
(2E) Boston vs (7E) NYR
(2A) Montreal vs (3A) Ottawa
(2M) Pittsburgh vs (3M) Columbus

Edit: I took the reg/OT/SO win totals from a random site, so there's a chance the Clamtron9000 has some issues.

Which would you rather have:

WSH loses in the first round and the 1st rounder this year that we acquired from them is earlier than expected

OR

WSH advances to the ECF and the 1st rounder is later but we also get their 2019 second.
- Yeah Boyes

What is the earliest first we can get from them? If they lose to the Leafs, does that have them picking 22nd? If it were closer to 15th overall, I'd go that way but I think I'd rather have a 28-30th plus a 59-61st over just a 22nd.

I don't pay much attention to draft classes though, maybe someone else knows of a gem that will be around at 22.

I was listening to Bernie on my way in and he said it. Here is where he got the data from.

http://www.corsica.hockey/goalies/
- carcus

Thanks

BTW Corisca is an awesome site. Tons of data there.

Hey guys do me a solid and lose T least two games, you can win the series but lose two games

Hey guys do me a solid and lose T least two games, you can win the series but lose two games
- pred_26

r.i.p your playoff pool

Hey guys do me a solid and lose T least two games, you can win the series but lose two games
- pred_26

Blues need to win asap and be well rested to face the Preds, so NO!!

What it tells me is, the gap between the best teams and the worst playoff teams is marginal. Match ups matter a lot because of that.
- carcus

This is true. it is also why the math bears out that a few fickle things like blown calls, a lucky bounce a change in momentum are the most important.

Most important is the narrative the players buy into. Because the difference in the talent are not that much. So if a player believes he is good maybe he gets that half step or finds that added bit of strength that gets him over the top. it also the reason why young players tend to go two ways in the play offs. if they don't realize what they aren't supposed to do they get better and do so for their careers(young players only). Or they let the pressure get to them and have to find a way to get past those mental hurdles in the proceeding years. Allen is the latter here.

What is the earliest first we can get from them? If they lose to the Leafs, does that have them picking 22nd? If it were closer to 15th overall, I'd go that way but I think I'd rather have a 28-30th plus a 59-61st over just a 22nd.

I don't pay much attention to draft classes though, maybe someone else knows of a gem that will be around at 22.
- Blue Clam

Depending on how you draft and why you are drafting you can find gems anywhere in the first round.

The Blues can pick for longer term development. That bodes well for later first round picks. If you draft for immediacy then you are swinging hard and hoping to make contact.