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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:05 PM ET
If you're a fan you wouldn't think that. Varsity and his way of thinking needs to go. Its disturbing they let Mullen walk and keep Hak/Lappy.
- flyer_nutter


Hextall ultimately made the decision to let Mullen go, although I'm sure Hakstol had some input.

What specifically is Hakstol's way of thinking that you object too!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:07 PM ET
Hextall ultimately made the decision to let Mullen go, although I'm sure Hakstol had some input.

What specifically is Hakstol's way of thinking that you object too!

- MJL


What is it that makes you think he wil be a good long term choice here? Or Lappy for that matter.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:10 PM ET
What is it that makes you think he wil be a good long term choice here? Or Lappy for that matter.
- flyer_nutter


He's been a successful coach at the collegiate level and I think he is a bright hockey mind. I think the combination of Hakstol learning the NHL better along with getting better players is going to lead to a successful run as the Flyers head coach. I personally would've dismissed Lappariere, as much as I like him and admire him. They didn't so I don't see a need to make a big deal out of it.

Again, what way of thinking that you perceive Hakstol to have, do you object to?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:14 PM ET
He's been a successful coach at the collegiate level and I think he is a bright hockey mind. I think the combination of Hakstol learning the NHL better along with getting better players is going to lead to a successful run as the Flyers head coach. I personally would've dismissed Lappariere, as much as I like him and admire him. They didn't so I don't see a need to make a big deal out of it.

Again, what way of thinking that you perceive Hakstol to have, do you object to?

- MJL


Think he's kind of an old school hockey mind - outdated kind of guy. I think the Flyers have been behind some league trends since the lockout years ago.

I think he's a POS coach to be honest, as is Lappy. Quicker he is gone the better. I believe in Hex, and some of the scouting boys to a point. Do think as an organization they needed to have a purge similar to the Leafs when Holmgren was promoted. A lot of moves have that familiar stink.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
Think he's kind of an old school hockey mind - outdated kind of guy. I think the Flyers have been behind some league trends since the lockout years ago.

I think he's a POS coach to be honest, as is Lappy. Quicker he is gone the better. I believe in Hex, and some of the scouting boys to a point. Do think as an organization they needed to have a purge similar to the Leafs when Holmgren was promoted.

- flyer_nutter


So just random generalities and no substance? There is zero that is old school about Hakstol if there is even such a thing.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:18 PM ET
So just random generalities and no substance? There is zero that is old school about Hakstol if there is even such a thing.
- MJL


What's ummm... New school?

Believe me, no coach is worried about Hakstol when facing the Flyers.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Apr 13 @ 6:19 PM ET
Luv lappy
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:20 PM ET
Luv lappy
- rinaldo



God as a player hell yes. Loved that guy. Was part of a solid 4th line.

As a coach? Take that passive PK, and love of turd players to use on it elsewhere.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:22 PM ET
What's ummm... New school?
- flyer_nutter



You tell me. If you know what old school is then you must know what new school is. I'm just looking for something that is real from you, rather than nonsense like fraternity boys, flyers gunna flyer and old school neanderthal thinking.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:24 PM ET
You tell me. If you know what old school is then you must know what new school is. I'm just looking for something that is real from you, rather than nonsense like fraternity boys, flyers gunna flyer and old school neanderthal thinking.
- MJL


I think he greatly overvalues useless north/south guys that do very little other than provide a warm body. Let's start with that.

This is a league trend that the Flyers are behind on.

Edit: You believe the Flyer organization has been a team catching up or leading the way in how the game is changing?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:26 PM ET
I think he greatly overvalues useless north/south guys that do very little other than provide a warm body. Let's start with that.

This is a league trend that the Flyers are behind on.

- flyer_nutter


A coach can only play the players he has available to him. I think many fans are shortsighted as to why some players had the role they had on the team. I bet that as the Flyers get more talent on the roster, he plays the more talented players.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:28 PM ET
A coach can only play the players he has available to him. I think many fans are shortsighted as to why some players had the role they had on the team. I bet that as the Flyers get more talent on the roster, he plays the more talented players.
- MJL


Do you agree with focusing on wins first and foremost, or giving higher playing time to youth, or inexperienced kids that are growing their games?

Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Apr 13 @ 6:29 PM ET
Rumor has it that Mullen informed management he would not be interested in coaching past this year. He agreed to the Hextall "gut" narrative so the Flyers could save face as he already has a new gig lined up.... oh and to tick everyone off on this board.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Rumor has it that Mullen informed management he would not be interested in coaching past this year. He agreed to the Hextall "gut" narrative so the Flyers could save face as he already has a new gig lined up.... oh and to tick everyone off on this board.
- Lawless18


It would be wonderful if thats what it was. Truly.

No excuse for not removing Lappy.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Well, the silver lining here folks is that there's a job opening in Philly. Get your resumes polished up and send them in!!!! Surely one of you can land it.

lol

- Scoob


Only hockey savants like Berube get hired. Cro-magnon man.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:32 PM ET
You left off a big reason why the PK sucked many times this year in your list..the goalies.
- opeth_pa


Yes, but that has been rectified. No longer an issue with Nuevirth re-signed.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:33 PM ET
Only hockey savants like Berube get hired. Cro-magnon man.
- PLindbergh31


It's just frustrating I suppose. You want to cheer for them, but its the same familiar stink rising up time and time again.

They are developing prospects at a proper rate and not throwing away picks. Great, thats a nice start. Still a very outdated way of thinking with many areas of this club.

I'd love an answer to one thing as a season ticket holder. What kind of team are the Flyers trying to build in terms of an identity. Just for fun if they could answer that in relation to another NHL club.

I bet my ass they will say Boston or LA, but would just like to hear it.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 13 @ 6:40 PM ET
It's just frustrating I suppose. You want to cheer for them, but its the same familiar stink rising up time and time again.

They are developing prospects at a proper rate and not throwing away picks. Great, thats a nice start. Still a very outdated way of thinking with many areas of this club.

I'd love an answer to one thing as a season ticket holder. What kind of team are the Flyers trying to build in terms of an identity. Just for fun if they could answer that in relation to another NHL club.

I bet my ass they will say Boston or LA, but would just like to hear it.

- flyer_nutter

They'll never admit to looking to another franchise. They'll spout some nonsense about not needing to.
edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Apr 13 @ 6:44 PM ET
I don't have "Blocked a shot with my face" on my CV
- Mononoke




PLindbergh31
Philadelphia Flyers

Today @ 3:14 PM ET
Thank god the same group of coaches are working with the PK.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.


I have to say that the posters on this board are in rare form in the week after the season ends. Possibly some of the funniest posts ever. It definitely helps ease the depression of another year without playoffs. Thanks guys.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Apr 13 @ 6:44 PM ET
Key takeaway is Hextall is not committing to long terms with any free agents. He won't sign a UFA Dman. I think we'll likely see a vet goalie come in on a short term and hopefully a vet forward who can be counted on for 15 or more goals. Guys are out there who fit that description. The improvement in the team when he brought in Filppula should have made an impression on him if he seriously thinks the Flyers are close to a playoff team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 13 @ 6:44 PM ET
Do you agree with focusing on wins first and foremost, or giving higher playing time to youth, or inexperienced kids that are growing their games?
- flyer_nutter


The number one priority of an NHL coach is to win hockey games. You can do that while playing younger players. I reject the either or scenario.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
They'll never admit to looking to another franchise. They'll spout some nonsense about not needing to.
- hereticpride


Exactly, and thats the outdated concept. So damn proud in their old glory days and playing catch up to league trends.

The status quo, 'we are the Flyers and we know best' is exactly what needs to be purged. Ironically, thats the same attitude of MJL.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
It's just frustrating I suppose. You want to cheer for them, but its the same familiar stink rising up time and time again.

They are developing prospects at a proper rate and not throwing away picks. Great, thats a nice start. Still a very outdated way of thinking with many areas of this club.

I'd love an answer to one thing as a season ticket holder. What kind of team are the Flyers trying to build in terms of an identity. Just for fun if they could answer that in relation to another NHL club.

I bet my ass they will say Boston or LA, but would just like to hear it.

- flyer_nutter


There is no one model to build a team into a winner. People act like being aggressive through free agency isn't smart business. It is when you acquire the right players. Throwing big contracts at bums, and trading talent for stiffs will lead to a lot of lean years. Mis-management has been one of this franchises biggest issues.
Holmgren made several transactions that set this franchise back years, and your are seeing the results of that now.

Even if this young prospect defense core all pans out, and we know it won't where is the forward talent? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds will all be way north of 30.
There isn't an answer in net either right now. I'm not seeing this team being a contender any time soon. Way too many question marks.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:47 PM ET
The number one priority of an NHL coach is to win hockey games. You can do that while playing younger players. I reject the either or scenario.
- MJL


Sadly you had a coach that advocated to play those exact useless north/south warm body players because he believed it gave him a better chance to win.

He made it an either or scenario.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 13 @ 6:48 PM ET
There is no one model to build a team into a winner. People act like being aggressive through free agency isn't smart business. Holmgren made several transactions that set this franchise back years, and your are seeing the results of that now.

Even if this young prospect defense core all pans out, and we know it won't where is the forward talent? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds will all be way north of 30.
There isn't an answer in net either right now. I'm not seeing this team being a contender any time soon. Way too many question marks.

- PLindbergh31


The prospects on D will come up and help them maybe win a round or two. They aren't winning more than that with this forward core leading them up front. Status quo has the club looking at simply another mini 'retool' in a few years because you need to find young high talent level forwards.

They didnt want to try and open that window at the same time, with the D and young forwards because we are the Flyers. Winzzz, proud, bullies, yeah! Sigh.
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