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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
Definitely wouldn't need to trade either for TJ.

Not so sure about Duchene.

- eichiefs9


I was all aboard for a #2 center up until the last few weeks. I think they need a D-man more at this point
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:20 PM ET
At least you're trying. I'm already starting to follow King's XI Punjab of the India Cricket League. There is a class-run organization.
- Isleshockeyman




How are the cricket girls?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
I was all aboard for a #2 center up until the last few weeks. I think they need a D-man more at this point
- Vukota

Yeah but that's probably not gonna happen. No good UFA's and nobody is trading a good defenseman for anything short of a huge return. We'd have to waive bye-bye to Barzal or Ho-Sang and a bunch of other assets.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:22 PM ET
Yeah but that's probably not gonna happen. No good UFA's and nobody is trading a good defenseman for anything short of a huge return. We'd have to waive bye-bye to Barzal or Ho-Sang and a bunch of other assets.
- eichiefs9


I agree.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:25 PM ET
I was all aboard for a #2 center up until the last few weeks. I think they need a D-man more at this point
- Vukota



Hearing Brian Strait is available for cheap....ha
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:27 PM ET
On the issue of dealing with Jaroslav Halak, Allan Walsh, J.F Berube, and Thomas Greiss, Snow skirted responsibility, saying "No, not really" when asked if he had any regrets to how the situation played out.

"I think our goaltending struggled the first 10 weeks or so. Christopher Gibson got hurt in Bridgeport and was lost for the season so having Jaro down there was essential. We felt if J.F had been exposed to waivers, he would have gotten claimed, and we would've been left with Jaro and Greiss and two young goaltenders. That injury figured into some of our decision making. Sometimes people don't realize injuries at the AHL level impact decisions up here."


He just can't admit he facked up
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:30 PM ET
On the issue of dealing with Jaroslav Halak, Allan Walsh, J.F Berube, and Thomas Greiss, Snow skirted responsibility, saying "No, not really" when asked if he had any regrets to how the situation played out.

"I think our goaltending struggled the first 10 weeks or so. Christopher Gibson got hurt in Bridgeport and was lost for the season so having Jaro down there was essential. We felt if J.F had been exposed to waivers, he would have gotten claimed, and we would've been left with Jaro and Greiss and two young goaltenders. That injury figured into some of our decision making. Sometimes people don't realize injuries at the AHL level impact decisions up here."


He just can't admit he facked up

- Vukota


Right, cause finding a goalie of Gibsons calibur would have been a real uphill battle?? Gimme a break..
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
On the issue of dealing with Jaroslav Halak, Allan Walsh, J.F Berube, and Thomas Greiss, Snow skirted responsibility, saying "No, not really" when asked if he had any regrets to how the situation played out.

"I think our goaltending struggled the first 10 weeks or so. Christopher Gibson got hurt in Bridgeport and was lost for the season so having Jaro down there was essential. We felt if J.F had been exposed to waivers, he would have gotten claimed, and we would've been left with Jaro and Greiss and two young goaltenders. That injury figured into some of our decision making. Sometimes people don't realize injuries at the AHL level impact decisions up here."


He just can't admit he facked up

- Vukota


Of course not. His ego is bigger than the team. Every team deals with injuries at the AHL level. When it happens, you can also call up a goalie from your ECHL affiliate. They have goalies too. He's a (frank)ing moron.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
What do you think is a fair package for TJ?
- kindlyrick

Before I think about that, we should be on the same page about a few things. Tampa is in a major salary cap crunch and sending back any sort of salary is absolutely 100% not an option. They also need a defenseman.

They'd probably take less of a return if we took back some salary. All their older, aging defensemen have NTC's, but Garrison is the most expensive (@ $4.6M thru next season).

I'd start by offering Hickey and 1st rounder for Johnson/Garrison. I'd be OK with de Haan for Johnson and Garrison.

I feel a little uneasy about trading a good defenseman off an already-bad defense, but I think I would do it in this case.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:33 PM ET
Before I think about that, we should be on the same page about a few things. Tampa is in a major salary cap crunch and sending back any sort of salary is absolutely 100% not an option. They also need a defenseman.

They'd probably take less of a return if we took back some salary. All their older, aging defensemen have NTC's, but Garrison is the most expensive (@ $4.6M thru next season).

I'd start by offering Hickey and 1st rounder for Johnson/Garrison. I'd be OK with de Haan for Johnson and Garrison.

I feel a little uneasy about trading a good defenseman off an already-bad defense, but I think I would do it in this case.

- eichiefs9


you also have to think that Pulock plays next year.......so that will help
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:35 PM ET
you also have to think that Pulock plays next year.......so that will help
- kindlyrick

Yeah, so if we essentially swapped out de Haan for Garrison we'd see:

Leddy, Garrison, Hickey down the left side and Boychuk, Hamonic, Pulock down the right.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yeah, so if we essentially swapped out de Haan for Garrison we'd see:

Leddy, Garrison, Hickey down the left side and Boychuk, Hamonic, Pulock down the right.

- eichiefs9

Unless somehow Vegas takes Hickey.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yeah, so if we essentially swapped out de Haan for Garrison we'd see:

Leddy, Garrison, Hickey down the left side and Boychuk, Hamonic, Pulock down the right.

- eichiefs9



On paper that D looks ok.......and you KNOWWWWWW that if Garth is GM, he'll have another tryout vet signed by training camp.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
Anyone else looking forward to the Berube extension? Who is going to be the third goalie next season?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
On paper that D looks ok.......and you KNOWWWWWW that if Garth is GM, he'll have another tryout vet signed by training camp.
- kindlyrick

Gotta keep the young kids in the AHL somehow.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yeah, so if we essentially swapped out de Haan for Garrison we'd see:

Leddy, Garrison, Hickey down the left side and Boychuk, Hamonic, Pulock down the right.

- eichiefs9

Are we protecting Hickey?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Unless somehow Vegas takes Hickey.
- Isleshockeyman

Who knows. I'm not even sure what route the Islanders are going to go in protecting their players or who they'd protect.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:42 PM ET
Are we protecting Hickey?
- Cptmjl

Are you assuming McPhee wants a guy that you hate?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:43 PM ET
Gotta keep the young kids in the AHL somehow.
- Isleshockeyman



I have been amazed that the Soundtigers have never been close to winning a championship after 10 years of drafting. How is that even possible?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:43 PM ET
Are you assuming McPhee wants a guy that you hate?
- eichiefs9

I hope so. My question was more who are we protecting?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
I have been amazed that the Soundtigers have never been close to winning a championship after 10 years of drafting. How is that even possible?
- kindlyrick

Because they don't ever get to see the talent we've drafted, until this year really.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
Who knows. I'm not even sure what route the Islanders are going to go in protecting their players or who they'd protect.
- eichiefs9

That's what I'm saying...
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
I have been amazed that the Soundtigers have never been close to winning a championship after 10 years of drafting. How is that even possible?
- kindlyrick


*psst, KR. Maybe it's because the big club, after 10 years of drafting, has never been close to winning a championship. They're run like the big club.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
Who knows. I'm not even sure what route the Islanders are going to go in protecting their players or who they'd protect.
- eichiefs9

That's ok, Snow isn't even sure who he'll be protecting. I'd be willing to bet they'll be a couple head-scratchers that he protects.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
Because they don't ever get to see the talent we've drafted, until this year really.
- eichiefs9



I know but it shouldnt have taken 10 years. Goes back to my comment yesterday of the Nino, Strome, Reinhardt drafts.......none of the three are impact guys, so the isles basically lost 3 years.
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