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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 3:58 PM ET
yes it can but let's not go there.
- zazzle


No it cannot lol
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 3:59 PM ET
Good write up C.

A couple things i found interesting from Spector's article...

The lack of any true 1st line talent.
We all like Bo, but seeing Sven-Bo-Boesser as a 1st line is a joke.

For all the hand-wringing around how Bo started the season down the depth chart, that is where he made hay.
As a 1st liner, he's playing against higher competition and his stats showed the results.

For all the hate they get, I maintain that the Sedin's continue to insulate the younger players.

I liked both those coaching candidates mentioned, but i'd think Green would have the lead for Vancouver.

It's non-sensical to say that since WD (new coach) failed here that another rookie coach would not be a good fit.

I say Green with a vet assistant (Ruff).
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 3:59 PM ET
Green is a very good coach in respects to getting his players to play his system and works very well with young players, instructing them to how to be complete players.

I certainly have no problem letting Green get a crack at coaching this team but IMO he is still the ideal coach to be sending the kids to learn from. I'm not sold his "systems" or in game adjustments will be any better than WD.

The Canucks need to commit to allowing their prospects to develop in the AHL and junior leagues, something they have for the most part refused to do.

- belcherbd


I like his 5v5 system better than WD's, but it likely won't be more entertaining. The structure he has Utica play with is impressive. But like WD, it's likely that he's going to be tough on young guys who struggle defensively and don't play within the system. Let's all just pray that he isn't as stubborn as WD when it comes to lineup changes if he is hired as HC.

Not my first choice for coach, but I won't be against it either. I'd rather hire him than Ruff or Crawford, but that's just me.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
I suppose we good finish 31st next season
- CanuckDon



Ok I'll bite not that it will happen but how is that worse?
17-31th all the same to me other than the lower the better draft wise.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 4:01 PM ET
Good write up C.

A couple things i found interesting from Spector's article...

The lack of any true 1st line talent.
We all like Bo, but seeing Sven-Bo-Boesser as a 1st line is a joke.

For all the hand-wringing around how Bo started the season down the depth chart, that is where he made hay.
As a 1st liner, he's playing against higher competition and his stats showed the results.

For all the hate they get, I maintain that the Sedin's continue to insulate the younger players.

I liked both those coaching candidates mentioned, but i'd think Green would have the lead for Vancouver.

It's non-sensical to say that since WD (new coach) failed here that another rookie coach would not be a good fit.

I say Green with a vet assistant (Ruff).

- dbot


Green already has Jarvis. I suspect he will choose the rest of the coaching staff.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 11 @ 4:03 PM ET
Ok I'll bite not that it will happen but how is that worse?
17-31th all the same to me other than the lower the better draft wise.

- Nighthawk

I was joking. It's a stacked draft so I won't be complaining if we have a top 5 pick
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 4:03 PM ET
Green already has Jarvis. I suspect he will choose the rest of the coaching staff.
- CanuckDon


Whatever, bring a Vet coach is as a consultant, call him whatever you want if not assistant coach.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 11 @ 4:04 PM ET
Green already has Jarvis. I suspect he will choose the rest of the coaching staff.
- CanuckDon


Probably the way it will unfold. That said USA today & EA sports will keep the points close to the same as they were this season.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 4:06 PM ET
Green already has Jarvis. I suspect he will choose the rest of the coaching staff.
- CanuckDon


I'm wondering what other coaches fit the "young guy who can grow with the next core" mold besides Green that the team may interview/consider.

Sheldon Keefe from the Marlies? I assume Hunter/Dubas were fans of his from their OHL days. Only 36 years old He's had success in the OHL/AHL, but his AHL teams have been stocked with talent.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 4:06 PM ET
I like his 5v5 system better than WD's, but it likely won't be more entertaining. The structure he has Utica play with is impressive. But like WD, it's likely that he's going to be tough on young guys who struggle defensively and don't play within the system. Let's all just pray that he isn't as stubborn as WD when it comes to lineup changes if he is hired as HC.

Not my first choice for coach, but I won't be against it either. I'd rather hire him than Ruff or Crawford, but that's just me.

- Nucker101



The system he had to use in Utica he had no choice in with the talent he had.
I use talent very loosely btw lol
AS for entertainment thats subjective to if he is ordered to open it up or not.
Marching orders will become prevalent soon enough but i am hoping the kids r given the opportunity to play up to their potential by playing to their strengths. Nothing wrong with coaching & teaching going into it but not stifling creativity would allow for more entertainment.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
Whatever, bring a Vet coach is as a consultant, call him whatever you want if not assistant coach.
- dbot


I agree with Don, I think JB/Linden already view Jarvis as that guy and will let the new coach fill out the rest of his staff.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 4:07 PM ET
I did my nhl.com playoff bracket.

I got Wsh over Chi in the finals, with the caps winning the sc.

i think i predicted the same last year.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
I suppose we good finish 31st next season
- CanuckDon



Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
I'm wondering what other coaches fit the "young guy who can grow with the next core" mold besides Green that the team may interview/consider.

Sheldon Keefe from the Marlies? I assume Hunter/Dubas were fans of his from their OHL days. Only 36 years old He's had success in the OHL/AHL, but his AHL teams have been stocked with talent.

- Nucker101


Coaches at UD Providence & BU
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
Great look at where NCAA commited draft eligibiles are going. http://collegehockeyinc.c...outing-final-rankings.php
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
No it cannot lol
- Nighthawk



you guys have the potential to grab the next two 1st over all picks.

man that smell like Edmonton drafting of the past
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
I agree with Don, I think JB/Linden already view Jarvis as that guy and will let the new coach fill out the rest of his staff.
- Nucker101


makes sense.
i don't have a a hardon (a dragon?) for Jarvis personally.
i'd be ok with letting him go later on if a better candidate was landed.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 4:12 PM ET
He's that kid that every parent wish they had
- Nucker101


I just found it funny that Canadian Geography was his subject. I know its possible that its a legit course and a field of interest for him, but sounds awfully similar to Basket Weaving 101
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 4:13 PM ET
Whatever, bring a Vet coach is as a consultant, call him whatever you want if not assistant coach.
- dbot


The same type of position Lemaire has with the Leafs.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 4:14 PM ET
I did my nhl.com playoff bracket.

I got Wsh over Chi in the finals, with the caps winning the sc.

i think i predicted the same last year.

- dbot


I got the same ending, didnt like the chances of 2 #1 seeds making it to the finals, so I put the Sharks in
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
The same type of position Lemaire has with the Leafs.
- zazzle


yup.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
I got the same ending, didnt like the chances of 2 #1 seeds making it to the finals, so I put the Sharks in
- WhiteLie



https://bracketchallenge.nhl.com/brackets/319079

chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Apr 11 @ 4:16 PM ET
The people who saw this coming were bipolars & chicken littles.
- DrChristianTroy



Its easy to say that youre right when you whine about the same thing 10 years in a row and FINALLY it comes true.....hindsight and all that....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 11 @ 4:16 PM ET
I just found it funny that Canadian Geography was his subject. I know its possible that its a legit course and a field of interest for him, but sounds awfully similar to Basket Weaving 101
- WhiteLie



He's a smart kid, taking advantage of the system
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 11 @ 4:16 PM ET
Green already has Jarvis. I suspect he will choose the rest of the coaching staff.
- CanuckDon



Shouldn't that be Tony Stark?
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